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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:49 PM
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70. She would have been more knowledgable and more mature at 17...
Have a better understanding of what sex means and better equipped to make decisions. I'm not sure if she would have allowed herself to be manipulated into that situation if she were four years older.

At 13 years old, she was in no way prepared to handle the machinations of a 28 year old man.

Between those two ages, you're looking at two entirely different people. It's a difficult question to answer.
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  -I sent a 28-year-old man to prison for statutory rape of my 13-year-old daughter... cynatnite  Sep-29-09 05:26 PM   #0 
  - Rec.  VMI Dem   Sep-29-09 05:27 PM   #1 
  - I'd do the same thing  Mz Pip   Sep-29-09 05:30 PM   #2 
  - Good for you. I have a 13 year old daughter right now.  Avalux   Sep-29-09 05:30 PM   #3 
  - I love his movies, but it doesn't erase what he's done...nothing will do that....  cynatnite   Sep-29-09 05:32 PM   #6 
  - "...help her with a career..." is the only quibble I have  SoCalDem   Sep-29-09 05:39 PM   #11 
     - I have no argument with you there.  Avalux   Sep-29-09 05:42 PM   #12 
     - He was an adult who drugged and raped a child  peace frog   Sep-29-09 10:26 PM   #71 
     - Nowhwere close to 99% of the time  Ms. Toad   Sep-30-09 07:17 AM   #103 
        - I was one of the 1 in 6  bluescribbler   Sep-30-09 10:00 AM   #119 
        - Sorry to hear it.  Ms. Toad   Sep-30-09 10:44 AM   #125 
           - Yes, Dad acted appropriately, as did my Sister  bluescribbler   Sep-30-09 12:55 PM   #151 
              - As I'm sure you're aware now,  Ms. Toad   Sep-30-09 01:34 PM   #158 
        - I said "can" because it's probably possible.. Many Moms ignore their gut feelings  SoCalDem   Sep-30-09 02:25 PM   #167 
           - I hope your mother believed you.  moriah   Sep-30-09 05:37 PM   #176 
           - Nope..  SoCalDem   Sep-30-09 05:41 PM   #177 
              - Not to offend you by insulting your deceased mother, but ...  moriah   Sep-30-09 06:10 PM   #178 
           - Unfortunately, it isn't - and suggesting it is  Ms. Toad   Sep-30-09 07:08 PM   #186 
  - good for you  noiretextatique   Sep-29-09 05:30 PM   #4 
  - Two years is not nearly enough, though  customerserviceguy   Sep-30-09 07:26 AM   #105 
  - I am very sorry about what happened to your daughter  Nye Bevan   Sep-29-09 05:31 PM   #5 
  - I've seen 'em. That's why I posted this. n/t  cynatnite   Sep-29-09 05:32 PM   #8 
  - They certainly don't  spiritual_gunfighter   Sep-30-09 11:08 AM   #133 
  - Yep I'd do the same thing  madokie   Sep-29-09 05:32 PM   #7 
  - As a recovered victim, I feel for you and your child. I support what you did.  Ilsa   Sep-29-09 05:33 PM   #9 
  - No reason you should regret it. nt.  WeekendWarrior   Sep-29-09 05:35 PM   #10 
  - stay strong  lillypaddle   Sep-29-09 05:44 PM   #13 
  - Some of the things I've read about what people think of 13 year old girls  corpseratemedia   Sep-29-09 05:44 PM   #14 
  - Exactly  dotymed   Sep-30-09 04:16 AM   #98 
  - I was talking to my dad yesterday...  Nuclear Unicorn   Sep-29-09 05:46 PM   #15 
  - Knowing my father would do the same thing was one of the reasons...  moriah   Sep-29-09 06:43 PM   #20 
  - I am sorry for what you went through,  Ms. Toad   Sep-30-09 07:41 AM   #106 
  - Maybe you have some regrets but...  Nuclear Unicorn   Sep-30-09 08:37 AM   #112 
  - I think you bring up a very important point - in his mind,  hedgehog   Sep-30-09 11:27 AM   #138 
     - I would tend to agree with you there.  moriah   Sep-30-09 01:23 PM   #156 
        - I'm going to go with calculated  mzmolly   Sep-30-09 02:18 PM   #165 
  - When my older sister was ten years old, some guy tried to lure her into his car.  Itchinjim   Sep-29-09 07:07 PM   #24 
     - I had several like experiences.  mzmolly   Sep-30-09 04:28 PM   #174 
  - No reason you should!  Odin2005   Sep-29-09 05:57 PM   #16 
  - When I was abducted and caused to not have children, at age 5, the fellow back then  glinda   Sep-29-09 06:23 PM   #17 
  - I'm so sorry, glinda.  Control-Z   Sep-29-09 06:42 PM   #19 
  - move over  grantcart   Sep-30-09 01:30 AM   #88 
  - Oh, Glinda  Morning Dew   Sep-29-09 07:17 PM   #30 
  - OMG!  Odin2005   Sep-29-09 07:36 PM   #34 
  - Gulp.  babylonsister   Sep-29-09 08:33 PM   #50 
  - It is OK. Thanks for all the reactions I think. Such a shock. Easy to mention it when not  glinda   Sep-29-09 08:54 PM   #62 
     - wink  seabeyond   Sep-29-09 08:56 PM   #63 
     - ...  redqueen   Sep-30-09 10:47 AM   #126 
  - I am so sorry,Glinda!  Kajsa   Sep-30-09 11:15 AM   #134 
  - I am so sorry - there are no words.  LeftishBrit   Sep-30-09 01:07 PM   #153 
  - that's fucked up  subcomhd   Sep-29-09 06:24 PM   #18 
  - I'm assuming you believe the fact he only got two years was what was fucked up there? n/t  moriah   Sep-29-09 06:44 PM   #21 
     - No. The fact the OPs daughter went through all of that.  subcomhd   Sep-29-09 06:45 PM   #22 
  - You did exactly what  Control-Z   Sep-29-09 06:56 PM   #23 
  - You have my thanks and the thanks of parents everywhere, I believe.  Number23   Sep-29-09 07:07 PM   #25 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Sep-29-09 07:08 PM   #26 
  - Suppose he was eighteen, would you of done the same?  LaPera   Sep-29-09 07:11 PM   #27 
  - I don't know about the OP, or her state's law, but here in Arkansas....  moriah   Sep-29-09 07:43 PM   #38 
  - Yeah sounds real sensible...  LaPera   Sep-29-09 08:23 PM   #47 
     - I wouldn't want an 18-year-old woman having sex with my 13-year-old son either....  moriah   Sep-29-09 09:28 PM   #65 
     - I'm so sorry that you had to read such a nasty reply, especially  myrna minx   Sep-30-09 10:17 AM   #123 
     - I agree with Myrna,  Kajsa   Sep-30-09 11:22 AM   #137 
     - I was molested at 13 by my brother's best friend, who was 18.  Jennicut   Sep-29-09 09:45 PM   #68 
     - This is such a nasty reply. Uncalled for.  myrna minx   Sep-30-09 10:16 AM   #122 
     - WTH? Did you even read her post  Kajsa   Sep-30-09 11:19 AM   #135 
  - But he wasn't. Why would you even ask that, under the circumstances?  Hekate   Sep-29-09 08:12 PM   #44 
  - This man that did this to our daughter could have gotten 10-15 years in prison...  cynatnite   Sep-29-09 08:34 PM   #51 
  - No, I would of hunted him down like a wild dog and blown off his fucking head!  LaPera   Sep-29-09 08:38 PM   #53 
  - Just by the way?  JerseygirlCT   Sep-29-09 08:46 PM   #56 
  - It is, just not in Trenton!!  LaPera   Sep-29-09 08:49 PM   #59 
  - That was our gut instincts, but we wanted to do the right thing...  cynatnite   Sep-29-09 08:46 PM   #57 
  - However, I still don't understand why you chose to advertise this?  LaPera   Sep-29-09 08:48 PM   # 
     - I felt that too many people were dismissive of statutory rape here at DU...  cynatnite   Sep-29-09 08:52 PM   #60 
        - I understand...but I do recall when I just turned 15  LaPera   Sep-29-09 09:04 PM   #64 
           - As you wrote, "I still don't understand why you chose to advertise this?"  uppityperson   Sep-30-09 02:50 AM   #92 
           - lol  renate   Sep-30-09 08:50 AM   #115 
           - LOL  myrna minx   Sep-30-09 10:23 AM   #124 
           - LOL! Have a little perception my dear....  LaPera   Sep-30-09 11:29 AM   #139 
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  - Appeal to absurdity  AtheistCrusader   Sep-30-09 10:58 AM   #131 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-30-09 11:39 AM   #143 
     - You appear to be making a point that the treatment was heavy-handed or overbearing  AtheistCrusader   Sep-30-09 12:16 PM   #145 
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        - You are predictable!!  LaPera   Sep-30-09 01:41 PM   #161 
  - Would "HAVE"  Codeine   Sep-30-09 06:14 PM   #179 
  - i like that. with that young, and teens being sexual, having a 4 yr age spread is good  seabeyond   Sep-29-09 09:42 PM   #67 
     - Arkansas only has a 3 year spread in their definition of "rape", but ...  moriah   Sep-29-09 11:39 PM   #78 
        - This actually makes a lot of sense  bluescribbler   Sep-30-09 09:58 AM   #118 
  - An 18 and a 13-year-old? I would definitely have pressed charges. nt  Justyce   Sep-30-09 07:42 AM   #107 
  - There's something wrong with an 18 yr old who wants to have sex with a 13 yr old  justiceischeap   Sep-30-09 07:52 AM   #108 
  - Your daughter is very lucky...  sagetea   Sep-29-09 07:12 PM   #28 
  - how awful... how unfair  renate   Sep-30-09 08:49 AM   #114 
  - You're a better person than me.  Arkana   Sep-29-09 07:16 PM   #29 
  - It wouldn't be prison nt.  michreject   Sep-29-09 07:22 PM   #31 
  - I am sorry he served only 2 years. The system failed you and your daughter. And all of us.  theothersnippywshrub   Sep-29-09 07:30 PM   #32 
  - Thank you for standing by your daughter.  moriah   Sep-29-09 07:30 PM   #33 
  - You did right by your daughter and everyone elses.  aikoaiko   Sep-29-09 07:38 PM   #35 
  - Good!  BlooInBloo   Sep-29-09 07:38 PM   #36 
  - Good for you. I'm sorry that  Autumn   Sep-29-09 07:41 PM   #37 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-29-09 07:45 PM   #39 
  - You are totally disgusting. Alerted. nt  babylonsister   Sep-29-09 07:46 PM   #40 
  - Alert seconded.  tosh   Sep-29-09 08:02 PM   #41 
     - Done before I even saw you guys' two posts on the screen. He'll be gone soon leaving only his stench  Hekate   Sep-29-09 08:07 PM   #43 
        - Totally repulsive. Is this what the faux talking heads produce?  babylonsister   Sep-29-09 08:23 PM   #48 
           - They seek the lowest common denominator, but find only the lowest.  tekisui   Sep-29-09 08:28 PM   #49 
  - Enjoy your brief stay, Troll. nt  Hekate   Sep-29-09 08:06 PM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-29-09 08:20 PM   #46 
  - Well she weren't looking for your raggedy rusted out ass that's for sure.  MichiganVote   Sep-29-09 08:36 PM   #52 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-29-09 08:14 PM   #45 
  - We like to velcro some balls to the wall. Guess you're up for tonight Worthless.  MichiganVote   Sep-29-09 08:38 PM   #54 
  - Two years?  JerseygirlCT   Sep-29-09 08:42 PM   #55 
  - You think no one took it seriously? n/t  cynatnite   Sep-29-09 08:48 PM   #58 
     - I think 2 years  JerseygirlCT   Sep-29-09 08:54 PM   #61 
  - Would you have done the same if your daughter was 17?  Leftist Agitator   Sep-29-09 09:36 PM   #66 
  - 17 would be under the age of consent in California.  kwassa   Sep-29-09 09:48 PM   #69 
  - She would have been more knowledgable and more mature at 17...  cynatnite   Sep-29-09 09:49 PM   #70 
     - four years is a hell of a lot of time and growing up at that age. nt.  seabeyond   Sep-29-09 10:28 PM   #72 
  - My grandmother was married at 13. For many 1000s of years, womanhood  McCamy Taylor   Sep-29-09 10:36 PM   #73 
  - My grandfather started working in the coal mine at 13. Bad times back then. I'm against  Liquorice   Sep-29-09 10:42 PM   #75 
  - For many 1000s of years, women were treated like breeding stock.  GoddessOfGuinness   Sep-29-09 10:51 PM   #76 
  - The world's youngest mother was five years old. She started mensturatring at four.  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-30-09 12:09 AM   #80 
  - We live in a more enlightened age.  proteus_lives   Sep-30-09 01:44 AM   #89 
  - Times have changed, people have more time to age now, to learn, don't die so quickly  uppityperson   Sep-30-09 02:53 AM   #93 
  - I'm at a loss for words.  Control-Z   Sep-30-09 03:31 AM   #96 
  - Perhaps I was "behind" but at 13 I looked like an adult woman but I was a kid  dugaresa   Sep-30-09 09:20 AM   #117 
  - But things have changed, generally for the better, since then  treestar   Sep-30-09 10:05 AM   #121 
  - You know what? I'm not even surprised.  redqueen   Sep-30-09 10:48 AM   #127 
  - Your Grandmother Was Married to a Man Who Took Responsibility For His Desire to Screw a 13 YO  NashVegas   Sep-30-09 11:33 AM   #141 
  - Yay for child rape, child marriage, and child labor!!!  geek tragedy   Sep-30-09 12:21 PM   #149 
  - 11 contrary responses to your comment so far and  Control-Z   Sep-30-09 05:03 PM   #175 
  - What a stupid post  eissa   Sep-30-09 06:42 PM   #182 
  - I'm smothering my daughter because I won't marry her off after  msanthrope   Sep-30-09 06:52 PM   #183 
  - And less than 200 years ago, the average age of menarche was 15 and a half.  moriah   Sep-30-09 06:52 PM   #184 
  - I admire you for your restraint.  GoddessOfGuinness   Sep-29-09 10:41 PM   #74 
  - The bastard should have got life  MissDeeds   Sep-29-09 10:52 PM   #77 
  - Our hearts go out to you  lupinella   Sep-29-09 11:54 PM   #79 
  - I'm wondering how your daughter is these days.  jaysunb   Sep-30-09 12:16 AM   #81 
  - She had a tough time for a little while, but she's done okay since then...  cynatnite   Sep-30-09 12:35 AM   #84 
     - Good for you ALL !  jaysunb   Sep-30-09 01:20 AM   #86 
  - And some times it is complicated  rustydad   Sep-30-09 12:18 AM   #82 
  - rustydad is right...  Vodid   Sep-30-09 02:37 AM   #91 
  - I'm sorry for your daughter...  redqueen   Sep-30-09 10:50 AM   #128 
  - Good!  TorchTheWitch   Sep-30-09 12:27 AM   #83 
  - Was he famous though?  Juche   Sep-30-09 12:42 AM   #85 
  - hubby's youngest daughter was raped at 16 by a 27yr old AA man...  bridgit   Sep-30-09 01:28 AM   #87 
  - Alcoholics Anonymous?  MNDemNY   Sep-30-09 07:23 AM   #104 
     - something tells me no  noiretextatique   Sep-30-09 01:09 PM   #154 
        - What do you suppose the relevance is?  MNDemNY   Sep-30-09 01:25 PM   #157 
           - the poster identified  noiretextatique   Sep-30-09 01:38 PM   #160 
  - Proud to have been the 100th Rec.  proteus_lives   Sep-30-09 01:46 AM   #90 
  - Best wishes to those who have had violence as sex put upon them. Grow up to those  uppityperson   Sep-30-09 02:54 AM   #94 
  - I have a 28 year old son  ismnotwasm   Sep-30-09 02:56 AM   #95 
  - At the least  dotymed   Sep-30-09 04:05 AM   #97 
  - You were 100% correct  malaise   Sep-30-09 04:36 AM   #99 
  - As you should have  CTLawGuy   Sep-30-09 05:26 AM   #100 
  - You absolutely did the right thing! Absolutely! Positively!  marew   Sep-30-09 05:56 AM   #101 
  - Good for you!  etherealtruth   Sep-30-09 06:58 AM   #102 
  - The Polanski case  Rebubula   Sep-30-09 08:16 AM   #109 
  - It was not just a crime against the victim. It was a crime against the state.  Honeycombe8   Sep-30-09 03:10 PM   #173 
  - Hear, Hear  Katana   Sep-30-09 08:17 AM   #110 
  - He should  BigD_95   Sep-30-09 08:21 AM   #111 
  - 2 years is too lenient  evenso   Sep-30-09 08:38 AM   #113 
  - If someone raped my daughter, it would take all I had to stop me from killing him.  driver8   Sep-30-09 09:05 AM   #116 
  - Of course  treestar   Sep-30-09 10:02 AM   #120 
  - Well done, you.  redqueen   Sep-30-09 10:51 AM   #129 
  - As a father of two girls...  liberal N proud   Sep-30-09 10:56 AM   #130 
  - I have a 13yo daughter and I couldn't even imagine  onlyadream   Sep-30-09 11:01 AM   #132 
  - I just have to divulge this in a safe place -  BallardWA   Sep-30-09 11:20 AM   #136 
  - Shocking, but then again not really  RevolutionStartsNow   Sep-30-09 06:30 PM   #180 
  - Good for you, my niece was molested for 14 yrs by her uncle  NavyMom   Sep-30-09 11:30 AM   #140 
  - Welcome to DU, NavyMom.  Control-Z   Sep-30-09 06:34 PM   #181 
  - Good.  H2O Man   Sep-30-09 11:36 AM   #142 
  - Good for you. You did the right thing. nt  mistertrickster   Sep-30-09 12:08 PM   #144 
  - Good job!  cleverusername   Sep-30-09 12:21 PM   #148 
  - Did the defense not ask you to recuse yourself?  TheCoxwain   Sep-30-09 12:21 PM   #150 
  - I presume that she meant that she sent the man to prison by witnessing against him; not as a judge  LeftishBrit   Sep-30-09 01:13 PM   #155 
  - Sorry to hear about your daughter.  LeftishBrit   Sep-30-09 01:07 PM   #152 
  - YOU did that? I thought the DA had to  Vincardog   Sep-30-09 02:10 PM   #164 
  - It wouldn't have happened if we hadn't pursued it...  cynatnite   Sep-30-09 02:41 PM   #171 
     - good for you. If the bad man did something to your daughter he deserves every thing he gets  Vincardog   Sep-30-09 02:57 PM   #172 
  - Good for you. You are a good mom.  winyanstaz   Sep-30-09 02:26 PM   #168 
  - Personally I think I'd resort to more extreme measures, like they did on "Sons Of Anarchy"  Initech   Sep-30-09 02:28 PM   #169 
  - Good for you. I hope your daughter is doing well now. n/t  msanthrope   Sep-30-09 06:57 PM   #185 
 

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