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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:31 PM
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15. I've seen it from the other side, and I can tell you that these programs help people inside
I've posted some pretty extreme anti- republican and anti-kkkristian rants here on DU. I spent part of my adolescence in the Kennedy years, and have been a politically-aware, far-left Democrat since the late sixties.

I've also spent my time in the joint, and I've seen inmates respond favorably to Prison Fellowship. I myself participated in the Kairos program and other spiritually-oriented programs: sweat lodges, Sufi, a Christian Science practitioner, gospel choirs, Catholic mass, meditation classes, etc. They all helped me rebuild my shattered life.

After you've been beat into the system (The United States of America vs. you) you need some warm and uplifting people around you. The various Prison Ministry programs help with that. I've seen some real hard-core lifetime cons express respect for Colson for coming back inside and helping people. I'm not talking about the "I've been saved by Jesus in the joint" types, I'm talking about the tough guys.

The Kairos program I was in had some of the most real people I've ever seen come in to spend time with us. I've never been so surrounded by love and uplifting vibrations as I was there. They weren't nuts; they weren't kooks; they were real people who gave big time and were there for us.

I'm not saying that all the facts and information in the post are bogus. I am saying that, when you're inside for a long time, it helps to have positive influences reaching out to your life and your soul. I'll give Prison Ministries and other prison-related spiritual programs credit for coming in and working with inmates.
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  -Odd duo worked together to form faith-based prisons..Doug Coe and Chuck Colson. madfloridian  Sep-29-09 01:00 AM   #0 
  - I have very close knowledge of this situation.  grasswire   Sep-29-09 01:53 AM   #1 
  - Too many of the Watergate criminals gained hero status with the right wing  madfloridian   Sep-29-09 02:05 AM   #2 
  - That's very interesting. Thanks.  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-09 04:06 AM   #4 
  - Not ONE DIME of our tax money should be spent on these wackos  Mari333   Sep-29-09 02:16 AM   #3 
  - Faith-based aid is unconstitutional, not sure how much money goes to the prisons.  madfloridian   Sep-29-09 12:15 PM   #6 
     - Bush brings faith to foreign aid  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Sep-29-09 06:22 PM   #12 
  - Some posts from a forum of those using Gothard tactics....scary indeed  madfloridian   Sep-29-09 10:25 AM   #5 
  - I just finished reading "The Family" two days ago  PatSeg   Sep-29-09 01:07 PM   #7 
  - It's a very hard read.  madfloridian   Sep-30-09 11:57 AM   #13 
  - This doesn't surprise me.  Tsar_Bomba   Sep-29-09 02:49 PM   #8 
  - The quintessential "Captive Audience"  Demeter   Sep-29-09 03:54 PM   #9 
  - Well said. I was thinking of that aspect also...  madfloridian   Sep-29-09 04:56 PM   #10 
  - This is frightening....another reason to stay out of prison.  evenso   Sep-29-09 05:03 PM   #11 
  - What a Bunch of Scumbags!  Anakin Skywalker   Sep-30-09 07:25 PM   #14 
  - I've seen it from the other side, and I can tell you that these programs help people inside  NBachers   Sep-30-09 11:31 PM   #15 
  - This is not an anti-Christian rant, and Coe works with Democrats as well.  madfloridian   Sep-30-09 11:39 PM   #16 
  - I read Chuck Colsons book Born Again in the 1970s  MikeH   Oct-02-09 03:12 AM   #17 

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