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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:01 PM
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35. If the July 20th plot had NOT occurred, Hitler would have escaped Berlin
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 04:02 PM by happyslug
But the side affects of the plot and/or his growing Parkinson disease (the involuntary movement of his hands in some of the last video we have of Hitler indicates one or the other) made him face the fact that his life was over. If he was still healthy in April 1945 he could have flown out of Berlin to Bavaria and held out for a time period leading a guerrilla operation and then going to Spain and then to South America. From South America he would have been returned to his speech making and as such we would have heard of him (and generally we would have heard from him).

Remember Hitler was NOT into deep research into any one subject, this is where he differed from Stalin who was into as much data as he could get (And the reason Stalin made the Mistake in 1941 of thinking Hitler would wait till 1942 to attack Russia, for if you looked into the details of any such invasion the Germans would have had more tanks, more men, more fuel, more planes in 1942 then they had in 1941, it made more sense for Hitler to wait then to attack in 1941, but Hitler was NOT a detail man like Stalin and wanted to attack Russia as soon as possible and that was in 1941 NOT 1942).

Given Hitler's view of himself as the most important German ever, his sacrifice of himself in fighting the Russians made sense to him (That he committed Suicide or otherwise died in his bunker was unimportant to this world view of Hitler, he was one with Berlin in the fight against the Russians). Given his rapidly deteriorating health from 1944 onward going some place else to die out of power was unthinkable (Thus if he had left for South America why give the Presidency of the Third Reich to Karl Dnitz? You retain it for your own use). Hitler wanted to die in power and that meant dieing in Berlin, thus he never had any thought of dieing anywhere but Berlin after July 1944. This was true even if it meant the destruction of all of Germany. Thus Hitler died in Berlin, not because anyone said he did, but he would never have left Berlin for that meant he gave up any hope of being in charge of all of Germany and that was the one thing Hitler was NEVER going to give up, even if it meant the destruction of Germany.
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  - deleted  grantcart   Sep-28-09 11:33 AM   #1 
  - DU seems really hostile today - this ought to provide the anti-CT crusaders some go-go juice  Echo In Light   Sep-28-09 11:35 AM   #2 
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     - There are those here who go bugfuck over ANY skepticism of Official Doctrine  Echo In Light   Sep-28-09 12:11 PM   #11 
        - The dungeon thaught me that much ... LOL .. was his comment that bad?  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 12:13 PM   #12 
           - I don't recall what was posted there n/t  Echo In Light   Sep-28-09 12:15 PM   #13 
              - maybe that's for the better. thanks for the linnks. n/t  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 12:16 PM   #15 
  - I do not believe that Hitler died in that bunker  Liberation Angel   Sep-28-09 11:46 AM   #4 
  - An aunt of mine claimed to have seen Hitler in Braman, Oklahoma...  Ozymanithrax   Sep-28-09 11:55 AM   #5 
  - Irving Wallace..... n/t  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 11:58 AM   #7 
  - Charlaine Harris' Sookie Stackhouse series...  SidDithers   Sep-28-09 12:06 PM   #10 
  - I'd agree if you said that about Bormann, and maybe even Hans Kammler... but Hitler.  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 11:57 AM   #6 
  - Why not Hitler? Stalin and Truman made deals...  Liberation Angel   Sep-28-09 01:16 PM   #26 
  - Right, and once safely away that insane (crazy, delusional) MF just STFU and stayed under the radar.  thunder rising   Sep-28-09 12:16 PM   #14 
  - Another good point. (That's what I meant with number 4 on the list)  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 12:17 PM   #17 
  - Well, he worked for the Bushes and an "undisclosed location" was good enough for Cheney  Liberation Angel   Sep-28-09 01:07 PM   #23 
     - That's the point. If they didn't need him, why did he "survive" WW2  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 02:10 PM   #31 
  - We certainly cleaned out Germany's closets after the surrender.  hunter   Sep-28-09 02:32 PM   #32 
     - I really like your last line. Indeed, it doesn't matter that much.  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 02:45 PM   #34 
  - Sounds like the team wanted to keep Stalin happy.  GreenStormCloud   Sep-28-09 11:58 AM   #8 
  - You have the same angle on this as I have. Thanks for the reply.  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 12:04 PM   #9 
  - Anyone in their right mind wanted to keep Stalin happy - he was no  old mark   Sep-28-09 12:28 PM   #20 
  - After the war Donald Rumsfeld was among the last of Hitler's handlers.  hunter   Sep-28-09 12:17 PM   #16 
  - Did he mention that the Fhrer goes by Pedro Ramirez these days?  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 12:18 PM   #18 
  - Thanks for the cool links (not)  Liberation Angel   Sep-28-09 01:19 PM   #27 
  - I loved the old Monty Python sketch about "That nice Mr. Hilter"  old mark   Sep-28-09 12:26 PM   #19 
  - I remember reading that Hitler escaped to South America and worked as a waiter  RFKHumphreyObama   Sep-28-09 12:56 PM   #21 
  - If racist ass Strom Thurmond could make it to 101  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-28-09 01:24 PM   #28 
  - Hitler in Argentina (link)  Liberation Angel   Sep-28-09 01:02 PM   #22 
  - I saw a documentary on this last week  librechik   Sep-28-09 01:11 PM   #24 
  - The article is about the evidence presented in the documentary.  Democracyinkind   Sep-28-09 01:53 PM   #29 
  - More proof!!11!!  Cid_B   Sep-28-09 01:14 PM   #25 
  - Hitler's definitely dead.  BreweryYardRat   Sep-28-09 02:06 PM   #30 
  - Hitler was a WOMAN  Ezlivin   Sep-28-09 02:37 PM   #33 
  - If the July 20th plot had NOT occurred, Hitler would have escaped Berlin  happyslug   Sep-28-09 04:01 PM   #35 

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