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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:16 AM
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51. While I agree with you that the wording can be updated, bobbolink has a point
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 04:17 AM by Hippo_Tron
Our society is less willing to take care of poor single people than poor families, the latter of which we do a pretty crappy job of to begin with. The reason is that it's very easy to make a political argument that children can't control the fact that they were born into poor families and therefore they shouldn't be punished. It's a lot harder to make the political argument that adults aren't impoverished by choice.
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  -Can we please enact FDR's 2nd Bill of Rights!!! (Lost Footage Found By Michael Moore!) Libertas1776  Sep-27-09 02:29 PM   #0 
  - I saw the Moore film yesterday- my jaw was on the floor watching that FDR footage  Beaverhausen   Sep-27-09 02:31 PM   #1 
  - Yes,  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 02:40 PM   #4 
  - I realized how lacking my education is about US history in the last century  Beaverhausen   Sep-27-09 03:01 PM   #9 
     - It is rather  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 03:14 PM   #13 
  - I would have gone with you.....  bobbolink   Sep-27-09 03:08 PM   #12 
  - If you want an answer to most things FDR is the way to go --  defendandprotect   Sep-27-09 04:59 PM   #24 
  - Where did you see it? We're in NJ and hoping we'll have it by October . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-27-09 05:00 PM   #25 
  - Hollywood. I think it opens "wide" next weekend  Beaverhausen   Sep-27-09 09:09 PM   #35 
     - Oct 2nd, to be exact.  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 11:04 PM   #38 
  - can't wait to see it  tabbycat31   Sep-27-09 09:15 PM   #36 
  - Thom Hartmann plays that speech on his show all the time. n/t  Ian David   Sep-27-09 02:33 PM   #2 
  - FDR was truly great.  anonymous171   Sep-27-09 02:35 PM   #3 
  - He really was!  ellie   Sep-28-09 01:43 PM   #55 
  - Neither does Obama, so far.  SammyWinstonJack   Sep-28-09 01:47 PM   #56 
  - Cass Sunstein --  Davis_X_Machina   Sep-27-09 02:42 PM   #5 
  - I was aware of that  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 02:55 PM   #6 
  - So, it's OK for me (and lots of others!) to be homeless, because I (we)  bobbolink   Sep-27-09 02:59 PM   #7 
  - What do you mean?  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 03:05 PM   #10 
     - Did you read the wording of that "2nd Bill of Rights"?  bobbolink   Sep-27-09 03:07 PM   #11 
        - I think that was just awkward 'general" wording  Beaverhausen   Sep-27-09 03:16 PM   #14 
        - Would it be tolerated if it was labeled for heterosexuals? For men? For whites only?  bobbolink   Sep-27-09 04:22 PM   #18 
        - I think you are  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 03:18 PM   #15 
           - Exactly. Just like women were reading waaay too much into it when all the wording was "Him" and  bobbolink   Sep-27-09 04:25 PM   #19 
           - Well,  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 04:51 PM   #21 
              - You're right... I should feel guilty because I want others to understand the effects of  bobbolink   Sep-27-09 05:02 PM   #28 
                 - What, exactly, was I not aware of?  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 05:25 PM   #31 
                    - You didn't--and won't--- see that language makes a difference. You refuse to see that  bobbolink   Sep-27-09 05:37 PM   #33 
                       - And you can continue  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 05:56 PM   #34 
                          - Ah yes, and there goes the name-calling to trump. ~~buzzer~~  bobbolink   Sep-28-09 07:52 PM   #59 
                             - Wow,  Libertas1776   Sep-28-09 09:32 PM   #60 
                                - We've learned from years of being put down by the RW..... and I have learned, too.  bobbolink   Sep-28-09 11:10 PM   #62 
                                   - "Now, when someone calling themselves  Libertas1776   Sep-28-09 11:42 PM   #63 
                                      - "Progressives" don't find it hard to understand and have compassion for those who are left out.  bobbolink   Sep-28-09 11:52 PM   #64 
                                         - "Progressives" don't find it hard to understand  Libertas1776   Sep-29-09 12:06 AM   #65 
                                            - You have the projection down very well, I see.  bobbolink   Sep-29-09 03:08 PM   #66 
                                               - And I repeat to you...  Libertas1776   Sep-29-09 04:01 PM   #67 
           - While I agree with you that the wording can be updated, bobbolink has a point  Hippo_Tron   Sep-28-09 04:16 AM   #51 
  - every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition  FreakinDJ   Sep-27-09 03:01 PM   #8 
  - He saw it coming  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 03:35 PM   #16 
     - We already have most of those rights...  Lagomorph   Sep-27-09 04:22 PM   #17 
        - You can walk in to any doctor's office - but will you be TREATED  FreakinDJ   Sep-27-09 04:33 PM   #20 
        - I think we're agreeing...  Lagomorph   Sep-27-09 05:02 PM   #27 
        - Tell that to the homeless and our nations' impoverished children . .  defendandprotect   Sep-27-09 05:02 PM   #26 
  - Heard about this last night -- MM was on Larry King and stopped to watch it . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-27-09 04:54 PM   #22 
  - Yes, I also caught  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 04:58 PM   #23 
     - Had his original VP succeeded him, we would have had it --  defendandprotect   Sep-27-09 05:03 PM   #29 
        - Actually,  Libertas1776   Sep-27-09 05:33 PM   #32 
           - Think there are many questions about that . . . from the Rosenbergs to the A-Bomb . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-28-09 01:46 AM   #46 
  - k i c k  defendandprotect   Sep-27-09 05:12 PM   #30 
  - KnR. Moore's film will be here in October, and I plan to see it. nt  Hekate   Sep-27-09 09:59 PM   #37 
  - Where? Anyone heard a schedule for the movie yet -- I'm in NJ...  defendandprotect   Sep-28-09 01:46 AM   #47 
     - Well, a bit of a drive for you. The Fairview Shopping Ctr theater in Goleta, CA....  Hekate   Sep-28-09 02:24 AM   #49 
        - We'll probably see some big ads by Mike . .. he usually does that -- hope to see it soon!!  defendandprotect   Sep-28-09 09:50 PM   #61 
  - Excellent post thx...knr  wroberts189   Sep-27-09 11:55 PM   #39 
  - I'm starting to believe...  FarLeftFist   Sep-28-09 12:17 AM   #40 
  - The so called, Economic Bill of Rights was important for the 20th century  Toucano   Sep-28-09 12:20 AM   #41 
  - Point well taken, now let's...  djp2   Sep-28-09 01:13 AM   #42 
  - K & R  democracy1st   Sep-28-09 01:15 AM   #43 
  - K & R  democracy1st   Sep-28-09 01:15 AM   #44 
  - My thoughts exactly as I left the theater yesterday - we need to start a movement  Emillereid   Sep-28-09 01:22 AM   #45 
  - Incredible to imagine such a man as president again.  gtar100   Sep-28-09 01:56 AM   #48 
  - K&R  KBlagburn   Sep-28-09 04:02 AM   #50 
  - The Glen Beck Whackos would be Bleeding themselves in the streets  paparush   Sep-28-09 09:30 AM   #52 
  - We should all commit to these - incuding our legislators.  grahamhgreen   Sep-28-09 01:26 PM   #53 
  - K&R & Bookmarked  swilton   Sep-28-09 01:33 PM   #54 
  - "freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies"  Trillo   Sep-28-09 02:01 PM   #57 
  - K&R  me b zola   Sep-28-09 02:18 PM   #58 
  - K&R - this is so exciting - thanks for passing on the info...  ms liberty   Sep-29-09 09:39 PM   #68 
  - ..  mdmc   Oct-02-09 02:11 PM   #69 
  - I guess I have to go see the movie.  Quantess   Oct-02-09 09:00 PM   #70 

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