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Sat Sep-26-09 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| -Mandated Healthcare is NOT a "tax." |
RBInMaine |
Sep-26-09 06:18 PM |
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nope, my aunt doesnt have to get auto ins because she doesnt drive |
NightWatcher |
Sep-26-09 06:21 PM |
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+1 |
ingac70 |
Sep-26-09 07:26 PM |
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No it's mandated for car OWNERS |
TorchTheWitch |
Sep-26-09 09:06 PM |
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?? Fine, liability and it covers the other person's damage. And, if you are financed you must have |
RBInMaine |
Sep-26-09 09:12 PM |
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People are not required to own a car |
laughingliberal |
Sep-26-09 09:47 PM |
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We are already "taxed" by emergency rooms for those without ins. Let's get them covered somehow. |
RBInMaine |
Sep-26-09 09:25 PM |
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We've been thru this. Auto ins is not at all the same as health ins. -eom |
Justitia |
Sep-26-09 06:22 PM |
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gawd |
Skittles |
Sep-26-09 06:25 PM |
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It is the principal of risk-spread, not cars vs. healthcare, though car ins. covers injury as well. |
RBInMaine |
Sep-26-09 09:21 PM |
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Private insurance companies are in the business of AVOIDING risk spreading |
eridani |
Sep-27-09 01:30 AM |
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Gawd, if I hear one more person call every cost necessity a "tax" I think I'LL puke. |
RBInMaine |
Sep-26-09 09:26 PM |
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what does it matter what the fuck it is called? |
Skittles |
Sep-26-09 09:33 PM |
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It's a tax... |
regnaD kciN |
Sep-26-09 09:42 PM |
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To pass constitutional muster, it actually is: |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-26-09 06:27 PM |
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for instance.. motor cycle helmets were required because the "State" decided it cheaper |
sam sarrha |
Sep-26-09 06:30 PM |
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Exactly. Same for the cost of airbags passed to the consumer. And many other things in life. |
RBInMaine |
Sep-26-09 09:23 PM |
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Those of us that believed Obama when he campaigned against mandates should |
Gravel Democrat |
Sep-26-09 06:35 PM |
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What happened to single payer which Obama suported in summer 2008? n/t |
Mimosa |
Sep-26-09 06:52 PM |
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Obama CONCEDED single payer before they ever got started. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-26-09 07:52 PM |
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No, Dems knew Medicare For All couldn't pass right now. Let's be positive. Reform+Public Option |
RBInMaine |
Sep-26-09 09:33 PM |
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There is no fucking way that a public option that is postponed until 2013 can work |
eridani |
Sep-27-09 01:33 AM |
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So when did all of the OUTRAGE against Medicare happen? |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-27-09 01:38 PM |
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Read posts above this one ^^^ |
Mimosa |
Sep-28-09 03:42 AM |
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thanks for the photo, that just about says it all... so sad... |
nightrain |
Sep-26-09 07:10 PM |
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I don't really care if it's a tax or not. Insurance companies getting potentially more customers... |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-26-09 06:36 PM |
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The proposed public options heavily restrict who can join |
eridani |
Sep-27-09 01:34 AM |
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True, not a tax. It's a payback to |
Autumn |
Sep-26-09 06:37 PM |
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Yes it is. I can chose not to own or operate a motor vehicle. |
anigbrowl |
Sep-26-09 06:52 PM |
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Yes, |
quaker bill |
Sep-26-09 07:01 PM |
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It is a form of tax, but so what? The question is whether the plan is just. |
JackRiddler |
Sep-26-09 06:56 PM |
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Some kinds of tax are constitutional, others are not |
anigbrowl |
Sep-26-09 07:32 PM |
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I don't see how this applies, however... |
JackRiddler |
Sep-26-09 08:20 PM |
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If it's mandatory it's a form of capitation, and yes it is a kind of tax |
anigbrowl |
Sep-27-09 05:50 PM |
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LOL |
Old Codger |
Sep-26-09 07:01 PM |
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It does not matter. |
quaker bill |
Sep-26-09 07:10 PM |
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Of course n/t |
Inuca |
Sep-27-09 01:39 PM |
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So the tax law is discriminatory against my family |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-26-09 07:18 PM |
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+1 |
anigbrowl |
Sep-26-09 07:32 PM |
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You said it well. |
juno jones |
Sep-27-09 12:02 AM |
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Mandated health INSURANCE is!! |
ingac70 |
Sep-26-09 07:26 PM |
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No, it's just another screw-the-consumer bill |
alarimer |
Sep-26-09 07:31 PM |
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How do you plan to enforce mandated insurance against homeless people? |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-26-09 07:38 PM |
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Debtors prison |
Oregone |
Sep-26-09 08:35 PM |
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And they can do stuff while in prison, like pick crops. There, illegal |
Thickasabrick |
Sep-27-09 01:50 PM |
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Let's go over this again |
havocmom |
Sep-26-09 08:22 PM |
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No. But its stupid |
Oregone |
Sep-26-09 08:34 PM |
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Plenty of people don't own a car, can I disown my body? |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Sep-26-09 08:38 PM |
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Mandated insurance is a "poll tax," falling heavily on the working poor |
WeCanWorkItOut |
Sep-26-09 08:50 PM |
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you're right it is not a tax |
Chisox08 |
Sep-26-09 08:53 PM |
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Singlepayer isn't happening, so give the public option and market reforms a chance. |
RBInMaine |
Sep-26-09 09:07 PM |
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Which public option? |
Better Believe It |
Sep-26-09 09:45 PM |
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The one that is going to |
Inuca |
Sep-27-09 01:45 PM |
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Stop supporting Democratic Politicians and Start supporting Democratic Principles |
Fading Captain |
Sep-26-09 09:11 PM |
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Just for you, RBinMaine: a repost |
Nikki Stone1 |
Sep-26-09 09:15 PM |
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Do you still say the same thing if there's no public option...? |
regnaD kciN |
Sep-26-09 09:41 PM |
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Good post. I would like to add |
Inuca |
Sep-27-09 01:51 PM |
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You are WAY off track. |
Matariki |
Sep-26-09 09:42 PM |
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So people who refuse to pay big fees to the insurance industry should be fined? |
Better Believe It |
Sep-26-09 09:44 PM |
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No we don't ALL need auto insurance, and to say that we do is disingenuous. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-26-09 09:48 PM |
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There are only five relevant words in this Post. |
TheWatcher |
Sep-26-09 09:50 PM |
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I don't think anybody should be born with an obligation for the money we spent, either. |
Lagomorph |
Sep-26-09 09:59 PM |
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The ACLU doesn't believe mandatory health insurance is a tax. |
MilesColtrane |
Sep-27-09 12:34 AM |
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Is Social Security a "tax"? |
TicketyBoo |
Sep-27-09 01:16 PM |
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WHy is this statement so controversial??? |
Inuca |
Sep-27-09 01:37 PM |
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"The consequence for not maintaining insurance would be an excise tax." |
sl8 |
Sep-27-09 03:00 PM |
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if mandated coverage is passed |
lifesbeautifulmagic |
Sep-27-09 06:06 PM |
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From the first line of the OP, no we do not all need to get auto |
Obamanaut |
Sep-27-09 06:22 PM |
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