truedelphi
(1000+ posts)
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Wed Sep-23-09 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #13 |
| 19. I think the main difference between people like you and people like me |
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Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 04:51 PM by truedelphi
IS MONEY.
I don't have any way to put aside the fact that MONEY should not be controlling this debate.
Now you probably make enough money that no matter what happens, you'll still have your insurance. Through you rich parents, or your government job or whatever.
And it doesn't bother you that MORALLY it is reprehensible as HELL that the lobbyists are pushing so much of this puzzle piece. This puzzle piece BTW controls my life. I spent two of the last five years dealing with the Hellacious Monsters known as the Insurance industry. As far as I am concerned, the CEO's of those corporations should be in a maximum security prison, not giving the Obama administration $ 30,000 a head so they can have a seat at the table for the "reform" discussions.
Also, Obama spent ALL OF LAST YEAR running around this nation promising us that he was Change that you can believe in. Then he gets in office, and his new message - IMMEDIATELY AND NOT EVEN A WEEK AFTER BEING SWORN IN - was that he would be "conciliatory."
Well then somehow "Conciliatory" trumps being the Change that we can believe in.
Broken is his promise to keep lobbyists out of the governing decisions of his Administration
Broken is his promise to see that the legislative bills that are written are small enough, manageable enough to be clear to the public. We have spent a whole summer on this issue, and we have no clear vision of what ultimately will be the bill. Right now we have the Baucus bill plus three or four others. (And Waxman's committee's bill is just as lengthy as the Baucus bill,a nd has a lot if industry give aways.)
You can MONETARILY afford to have another Republican-lite President. I cannot.
It's not just the health care issue - it's many issues. It's Velsick and Taylor as well! I don't want Monsanto GMO food, as it will prove to lead to famine. I don't want Monsanto FDA rulings. I don't want Geithenr/Bernanke Wall Street giveaways (Totaling two to three trillion to date, while California gets frozen out of our governor's request for some small change to help us avert a calamity!)
Barack Obama's Presidency makes me long for the original;l Republican-lite President, Bill Clinton, because he stood up to the banksters. (Though I can never forgive him for NAFTA.) At this point in time, I cannot believe that I saw Barack Obama as being more progressive than Hillary, and choose him over her a year ago.
But like I say, it all comes down to money. Those of you on DU who can support this new Republican-lite style Administration usually have a lot more money than those of us who are truly progressive, and are of the Teddy Kennedy-style Democratic party and not the rotten to the core Rahm Emmanual style Democratic party now in fashion.
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"Triggering" a Democratic Civil War: some White House staffers trying to sell Snowe "trigger" |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 03:45 PM |
#0 |

leftist, stand behind me |
mdmc |
Sep-23-09 03:48 PM |
#1 |

There is always a civil war in the Democratic Party. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-23-09 03:49 PM |
#2 |
 
What?? n/t |
truedelphi |
Sep-23-09 03:50 PM |
#3 |
  
"The far left". Also known as "the left of the left" in insurance company-backers parlance. |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 03:51 PM |
#7 |
 
Also, in troll's parlance. nt |
rudy23 |
Sep-23-09 03:53 PM |
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Well you get what you give. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-23-09 03:58 PM |
#13 |
 
"I bet that would really chafe the left" -- Why so hostile to "the left", dear heart? |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 03:59 PM |
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Easy the far left is as dangerous to us as the far right. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-23-09 04:12 PM |
#17 |
 
Again you are claiming that "the far leftist" line is the public option when most support it. Why? |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 04:13 PM |
#18 |
 
Maybe they are one of the paid industry trolls |
truedelphi |
Sep-23-09 04:16 PM |
#20 |
 
I support the public option, but I will settle for a triggered one. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-23-09 04:20 PM |
#24 |
 
It's 'to' late if we let it be. |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 10:41 PM |
#26 |
 
I think the main difference between people like you and people like me |
truedelphi |
Sep-23-09 04:15 PM |
#19 |
 
MAGNIFICENT. |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 04:18 PM |
#23 |
 
I make around 30,000 a year. This year less since I work |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-23-09 04:31 PM |
#25 |
 
Oh yes, the "far left", the only group demanding a public option. Do you read polls? |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 03:50 PM |
#4 |

How much you want to bet there is a public option or |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-23-09 03:54 PM |
#9 |

what these staffers clearly need is more of our blind trust and supine patience :sarcasm: n/t |
MisterP |
Sep-23-09 03:50 PM |
#5 |

The push for "bipartisanship" is pure BS cover for what was going to occur all along. |
Echo In Light |
Sep-23-09 03:51 PM |
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While we're at it, let's retroactively place a "trigger" on the Iraq invasion and WMDs... |
KansDem |
Sep-23-09 03:53 PM |
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Beautifully put, Kansas. |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 03:55 PM |
#12 |

Good for Mike Lux. I was just starting to post that from Open Left. |
madfloridian |
Sep-23-09 03:54 PM |
#10 |

Trigger Shmigger...UNIVERSAL OR BUST |
stuball111 |
Sep-23-09 03:55 PM |
#11 |
 
+1,000 n/t |
truedelphi |
Sep-23-09 04:18 PM |
#22 |

The public option IS the compromise |
DireStrike |
Sep-23-09 04:06 PM |
#15 |

If progressives JUST THIS ONE TIME failed to give in on this |
CocoaBeachCoco |
Sep-23-09 04:11 PM |
#16 |

I agree. However we need more organization. |
DireStrike |
Sep-23-09 04:18 PM |
#21 |