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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #78
87. You are right
men like him really only get their sense of self from women.
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  -False Rape Accusations and Rape Culture Odin2005  Sep-22-09 08:24 AM   #0 
  - geez, if there is not soooo much in these very few words. but spoken out loud  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 08:27 AM   #1 
  - No problem!  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 08:28 AM   #2 
  - If both are being led on by a pervasive "rape culture"  JonQ   Sep-22-09 08:37 AM   #3 
  - did you mean....men who rape are victims as well?  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 08:39 AM   #5 
  - Sex is very complex  Nuclear Unicorn   Sep-22-09 08:39 AM   #4 
  - i don't know how i feel about the term 'rape culture' -- but  xchrom   Sep-22-09 09:06 AM   #6 
  - In one sense, i do, too; in another, I do not.  closeupready   Sep-22-09 09:18 AM   #8 
     - i think he's talking about the 'virgin/whore' thing that  xchrom   Sep-22-09 09:24 AM   #10 
        - Exactly! And on top of that...  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 03:28 PM   #38 
           - Seems to me there are 2 very diatetrically opposed memes, and they are:  raccoon   Sep-23-09 11:07 AM   #92 
  - Thank you... so much.  redqueen   Sep-22-09 09:09 AM   #7 
  - And separately, I want to comment that this idea of the US having a rape culture is not news to me.  closeupready   Sep-22-09 09:19 AM   #9 
  - agree. i dont think it is news to many women. more challenging for men to see  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 09:43 AM   #13 
  - I would have to guess as to why our culture is so violent, but  closeupready   Sep-22-09 10:03 AM   #19 
     - nah, my question is a little easier i think, lol  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 10:28 AM   #22 
        - Since it's a system that works to the advantage of males, I'd presume that many or most  closeupready   Sep-22-09 10:37 AM   #26 
        - i think so too  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 10:47 AM   #29 
        - I wonder about those differences  hfojvt   Sep-22-09 08:39 PM   #69 
           - i dont talk to my two brothers or father about it. at the moment they think they are picked on  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 08:44 PM   #70 
              - I am not sure if any of the women I am close to  hfojvt   Sep-23-09 12:19 AM   #75 
                 - i had never called myself a feminist either. abhorred the word.  seabeyond   Sep-23-09 06:35 AM   #84 
  - Sex and violence.  omega minimo   Sep-22-09 03:43 PM   #41 
     - Just how often do you play video games, Omega Minimo?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 06:17 PM   #47 
  - WTF? In What World Does Coerced Sex Look Like the "Traditional Seduction Model"?  NashVegas   Sep-22-09 09:26 AM   #11 
  - True - the verbs "rape" and "seduce" are mutually exclusive.  closeupready   Sep-22-09 09:40 AM   #12 
  - The Confusion Is Mond-Boggling  NashVegas   Sep-22-09 06:17 PM   #46 
  - come on baby please, i need it, if you love me. maybe is the thought of seduction. nt  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 09:45 AM   #15 
  - Good Fucking Lord  NashVegas   Sep-22-09 09:47 AM   #17 
     - yes we have which is why it is making all this so hard for our youth. nt  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 09:49 AM   #18 
  - You almost answered your own question.  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 03:22 PM   #36 
  - "No Means No"  NashVegas   Sep-22-09 06:12 PM   #43 
  - I can see why the "traditional seduction scenario" is a stumbling block for some here  omega minimo   Sep-22-09 03:56 PM   #42 
     - "Charm" Is a Verbal Short Cut  NashVegas   Sep-22-09 06:16 PM   #45 
        - What does "charm" have to do with "take responsibility for his actions"?  omega minimo   Sep-23-09 12:36 AM   #76 
           - I Think You Use a Different Dictionary Than I Use  NashVegas   Sep-23-09 11:01 AM   #90 
  - This is pure gobbledy-gook  slackmaster   Sep-22-09 09:44 AM   #14 
  - why? NT  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 09:45 AM   #16 
     - It doesn't agree in any way with my sexual experiences with women  slackmaster   Sep-22-09 10:46 AM   #28 
  - I think this is a distorted world view.  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-22-09 10:03 AM   #20 
  - i think there is evidence everywhere that we as a society promote and are entertained by rape  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 10:31 AM   #23 
  - I wonder how many aren't even reported.  redqueen   Sep-22-09 10:33 AM   #24 
  - all the women who were girls at the time, that have been raped havent reported  seabeyond   Sep-22-09 10:35 AM   #25 
  - For example?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 01:11 PM   #35 
  - The panhandle is a lot weirder than I remember it.  subcomhd   Sep-23-09 11:42 AM   #95 
     - my husband surprised me not long ago  seabeyond   Sep-23-09 12:13 PM   #96 
  - Society Punishes Rape By Ugly Men of Moderate or Few Means  NashVegas   Sep-22-09 01:05 PM   #34 
  - It obsesses over the stereotypical "women is raped by stranger on the street" incidents....  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 03:36 PM   #39 
     - I don't know where you get the idea that people aren't aware  subcomhd   Sep-23-09 12:18 PM   #97 
  - Good grief! Now you're dragging in posts from other boards?  TexasObserver   Sep-22-09 10:26 AM   #21 
  - I'm 23, and have been in several relationships, so quit with the condescending attitude..  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 03:40 PM   #40 
     - Who said raping a passed out girl was okay? link? n/t  tammywammy   Sep-22-09 06:13 PM   #44 
     - He's probably thinking it's me.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 06:18 PM   #48 
     - No, you were saying it was OK as long as...  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 06:39 PM   #52 
        - Oh, right, you're talking about comedy movie.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 06:43 PM   #54 
           - Which would mean she was probably too drunk to give consent. eom  Hello_Kitty   Sep-22-09 07:47 PM   #57 
              - Yet she gives consent.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 07:51 PM   #58 
                 - And a lot of people found that scene disturbing, which was the point of that OP Odin2005 linked.  Hello_Kitty   Sep-22-09 08:07 PM   #62 
                    - Fuck the prudes.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 08:09 PM   # 
                       - Uh huh.  Hello_Kitty   Sep-22-09 08:19 PM   #65 
                       - Say what now?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 08:21 PM   #66 
                          - You should try having sex with a sober person sometime.  Hello_Kitty   Sep-22-09 08:25 PM   #67 
                             - Oh, I do, happily married for many years.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 08:28 PM   #68 
                                - If you think that any woman who is drunk is "fair game"  Hello_Kitty   Sep-22-09 10:46 PM   #74 
                                   - I reject the thoroughly sexist notion...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-23-09 11:15 AM   #93 
                       - The woman was out cold when he started screwing her, that is rape.  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 09:14 PM   #71 
                          - It could argurably be rape if she decides it was rape.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-23-09 11:04 AM   #91 
     - It was a thread way back from last spring.  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 06:22 PM   #49 
        - Link? n/t  tammywammy   Sep-22-09 06:26 PM   #50 
        - Here:  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 06:37 PM   #51 
           - KICK  Odin2005   Sep-22-09 07:21 PM   #55 
           - ...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 07:53 PM   #60 
           - Sorry I had to leave for a while, thanks for the link  tammywammy   Sep-22-09 08:09 PM   #63 
        - You got it wrong. It's not rape because it's Seth Rogan.  Touchdown   Sep-23-09 01:41 AM   #80 
     - Big whoop. that makes you an expert on...your own life.  anigbrowl   Sep-22-09 07:40 PM   #56 
     - Dude  BoneDaddy   Sep-22-09 10:07 PM   #72 
  - Dispatches from the Victorian Era.  subcomhd   Sep-22-09 10:45 AM   #27 
  - 'it's no fun if they don't run'  redqueen   Sep-22-09 10:49 AM   #30 
  - Exhortations to 'play hard to get' are just my imagination playing tricks on me?  closeupready   Sep-22-09 11:42 AM   #32 
  - Is that what I was doing?  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-23-09 01:50 AM   #81 
     - Not all women are the same.  redqueen   Sep-23-09 10:07 AM   #89 
        - The "seduction community"?  woo me with science   Sep-26-09 01:38 PM   #99 
  - Since you're one of the people who most adamantly ran around all threads...  Gwendolyn   Sep-22-09 10:59 AM   #31 
  - "rape culture"  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 11:59 AM   #33 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-22-09 03:24 PM   #37 
  - Your attitude reminds me of how the teabaggers don't think they're racist. eom  Hello_Kitty   Sep-22-09 07:51 PM   #59 
     - Your attitude reminds me of Ashley Todd.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-22-09 07:55 PM   #61 
        - Oooh burn!  Hello_Kitty   Sep-22-09 08:10 PM   #64 
  - I'm proud to say that all the girls I've had sex with wanted to have sex with me...  BlooInBloo   Sep-22-09 06:42 PM   #53 
  - I agree. It's disgusting to think of sex with any woman who isn't fully willing.  TexasObserver   Sep-23-09 01:06 AM   #77 
  - Charlatan  BoneDaddy   Sep-22-09 10:10 PM   #73 
  - Uh oh, it sounds like somebody is going to get thrown out of the He-Man Woman Haters Club if he's  Liquorice   Sep-23-09 01:13 AM   #78 
  - You are right  BoneDaddy   Sep-23-09 09:02 AM   #87 
  - Thanks For Your Input-----"BoneDaddy." (n/t)  Paladin   Sep-26-09 02:28 PM   #100 
     - I'm so glad I'm not the only one who caught that....n/t  msanthrope   Sep-26-09 03:03 PM   #101 
  - Fascinating replies on this thread  ismnotwasm   Sep-23-09 01:37 AM   #79 
  - Good point. Thanks for the definition.  Touchdown   Sep-23-09 02:15 AM   #82 
  - if you wnat to get your man to do something, give him a bj.  seabeyond   Sep-23-09 06:52 AM   #86 
     - I was making a joke of course, but it did buy into the stereotype.  Touchdown   Sep-23-09 05:11 PM   #98 
  - another conditioning i have baffled... womens bodies are beautiful, who wants to see a mans....  seabeyond   Sep-23-09 06:47 AM   #85 
  - Out of curiosity, does anyone know of any good peer-reviewed studies on this issue?  Hippo_Tron   Sep-23-09 02:36 AM   #83 
  - "More than half of all reported rapes are committed by someone the survivor knows."  redqueen   Sep-23-09 10:04 AM   #88 
     - i know women that have been raped. i dont know a single one that has reported. nt  seabeyond   Sep-23-09 11:33 AM   #94 
 

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