Reply #43: Good post . . . except . . .

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This nation began with genocide vs Native American . . .
Later running "white settlers" in their territory and we call it our "heartland" now!
Slavery -- another 100 years of Segregation --
Taking over other nations -- Philippines, Hawaii -- War with Mexico for land --

The very beginning of the nation involved giving land and wealth to the elites --

I think most of us want what we've always wanted -- to live in peace with our families --
It is the few who desire control over others and great wealth.

Remember that royalty morphed into capitalism/corporations when we knocked down Kings.

Also, that this right wing propaganda reminds you of Nazi Germany isn't unusual -- the Nixon
White House spent long period of time studying Nazi propaganda/films.

Re this . . .
Christianity, a religion that where its founder was crucified for standing up to the corrupt government of his time, has morphed into a free market religion. It has been hijacked in every way that Islam has been hijacked by a radical fringe who take things out of context or make things up.

Our problems begin with patriarchy -- violent patriarchy.
They could not declare themselves "superior" to others -- they needed a "god" to do that
for them - so they invented a male god to do that.
The Bible was written to cement patriarchy.

After the New Deal and when the social revolutions began in the 1960's -- anti-war, pro-nature,
natural protective means of health, ending notions of anyone being "inferior" -- organic foods, breastfeeding, natural child birth -- celebrating normal human sexuality - challenges to organized
patriarchal religions -- and most of all generally challenging authority . . .

PATRIARCHY had to reestablish itself --
Since organized patriarchal religion is the underpinning for patriarchy, they first had to
reestablish that. That's why they've created this Fundi religious movement.
The GOP gave start up funds to the Christian Coalition. Other right wing monied folk helped
Dobson and Bauer create their right wing religious organizations. This didn't happen by any
natural means. It was created by the elites. As religion has always been used by them to
destroy other nations and to hold power to themselves.

Nor can they have a Jesus floating around who more resembles a "Commie" --
Much of former Christian teachings had to be reversed -- much as large parts of the Bible
are contradictory for the same reason.

US/CIA also created the Islamic Fundi movement in ME ---
We spent millions on printing and producing the vile text books used to teach violent notions
of Islam. At the end here I'll give you a like to the info on Afghanistan and the textbooks.
Again, none of this happened by accident -- it's been used to disrupt peaceful religions.



Generally I agree with your overall attempt here --

On the other hand, what I worry about is the entire planet --

Patriarchy is suicidal!


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FIRST PART OF THIS DEALS WITH HOW US/CIA CREATED TALIBAN AND AL QAEDA . . .
TO BAIT RUSSIANS INTO AFGHANISTAN . . .!!!


SECOND PART DEALS WITH THE TEXTBOOKS --



The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan
Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski,
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser

Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs <"From the Shadows">, that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Q: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Q: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

http://www.takeoverworld.info/brzezinski_interview_shor ...


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SECOND PART --


The US spent $100's of millions shooting down Soviet helicopters yet didn't spend a penny helping Afghanis rebuild their infrastructure and institutions.

They also spent millions producing jihad preaching, fundamentalist textbooks and shipping them off to Afghanistan. These were the same text books the Western media discussed in shocked tones and told their audiences were used by fundamentalist teachers to brainwash their charges and to inculcate in young Afghanis a jihad mindset, hatred of foreigners and non-Muslims etc.


Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal?

Or perhaps I should say, "Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal that's waiting to happen?"

Because it has been almost unreported in the Western media that the US government shipped, and continues to ship, millions of Islamist textbooks into Afghanistan.

Only one English-speaking newspaper we could find has investigated this issue: the Washington Post. The story appeared March 23rd.

Washington Post investigators report that during the past twenty years the US has spent millions of dollars producing fanatical schoolbooks, which were then distributed in Afghanistan.

"The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books..." -- Washington Post, 23 March 2002 (1)

According to the Post the U.S. is now "...wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism."

So the books made up the core curriculum in Afghan schools. And what were the unintended consequences? The Post reports that according to unnamed officials the schoolbooks "steeped a generation in violence."

How could this result have been unintended? Did they expect that giving fundamentalist schoolbooks to schoolchildren would make them moderate Muslims?

Nobody with normal intelligence could expect to distribute millions of violent Islamist schoolbooks without influencing school children towards violent Islamism. Therefore one would assume that the unnamed US officials who, we are told, are distressed at these "unintended consequences" must previously have been unaware of the Islamist content of the schoolbooks.

But surely someone was aware. The US government can't write, edit, print and ship millions of violent, Muslim fundamentalist primers into Afghanistan without high officials in the US government approving those primers.

http://www.tenc.net/articles/jared/jihad.htm