wickerwoman
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Sat Sep-19-09 03:57 AM
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a.) she lives in housing with a working kitchen. Many of the working poor live in motels because they can't afford the down-payment on an apartment. She may very well not have a freezer or anything bigger than a mini-fridge. And cooking burgers on a hotplate and then washing greasy pans by hand in the bathroom sink really sucks. Trust me, I've done it.
b.) that she has access to a grocery store where she can buy hamburger, edible vegetables and non-moldy buns. When I lived in New Jersey and didn't have a car, the closest grocery store was a 30-50 minute bus ride each way. It was a ghetto grocery store too where all of the produce was spoiled, the meat and dairy had to be used almost the same day and the cans were covered in dust and rat tracks. If she's lucky she lives near a convenience store that also sells meat, but at the prices she's paying there, she might as well just pick up a whole sandwich from the deli counter and be done with it.
So in addition to the 19 minutes at the stove, add three hours for grocery shopping, half an hour or washing dishes, and at least an hour of extra work to pay for the price difference between her burger and the McDonalds one. That's five hours of a working person's very packed schedule for a burger.
The government does distribute menu ideas for lower income people. The problem is that they don't have cooking facilities, don't have access to the ingredients and are completely exhausted from working two jobs and negotiating the local bus system's slashed service.
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| -No, Bill Maher: Dr. Regina Benjamin's "claim to fame" is not advising Burger King; |
question everything |
Sep-18-09 10:55 PM |
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Bill can be a total ass. k and r |
mucifer |
Sep-18-09 10:56 PM |
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Yep. nt |
ecstatic |
Sep-19-09 10:46 AM |
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sorry- but i have to agree with him on a couple points... |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-18-09 10:59 PM |
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rubbish |
paulsby |
Sep-19-09 01:20 AM |
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You sound like the people who say they shouldn't have to pay for someone else's health care |
musicblind |
Sep-19-09 02:25 AM |
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no, i sound like a person who doesn't believe in nannystate |
paulsby |
Sep-20-09 01:03 PM |
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the same could be said of alcohol and tobacco. |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-19-09 10:33 AM |
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not really |
paulsby |
Sep-20-09 01:05 PM |
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Thanks, yours is one of the few sane posts... |
TeaBagsAreForCups |
Sep-19-09 01:58 AM |
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Oh yeah. People in the inner cities, single mothers who work 14 hours a day |
question everything |
Sep-19-09 07:46 PM |
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your pov is based on unwarranted assumptions |
paulsby |
Sep-20-09 09:07 PM |
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you don't need to hire a trainer or go to a gym |
Skittles |
Sep-22-09 04:14 AM |
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Do you really mean what you suggest? |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-19-09 10:44 AM |
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Excellent. The worst fatal blow to any meaningful health care reform |
question everything |
Sep-19-09 07:50 PM |
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in case you hadn't noticed- the taxes are already there on alcohol and tobacco |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-20-09 08:49 AM |
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More taxes for alcohol and tobacco. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-20-09 01:18 PM |
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higher sin taxes on some items does not equate to "government spying on citizens" |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-20-09 04:02 PM |
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But you forgot about sex. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-20-09 05:11 PM |
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i didn't forget it- it's just ludicrous. |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-20-09 11:46 PM |
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So simple. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-21-09 10:27 AM |
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eating healthy food doesn't have to be expensive at all. |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-21-09 05:18 PM |
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Please read up on the things you wish to comment on. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-21-09 11:10 PM |
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when i lived in the city, i did most of my produce shopping at small produce markets |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-22-09 01:04 AM |
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Please stop. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-22-09 08:36 AM |
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i've lived it. |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-22-09 11:32 AM |
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Please stop. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-22-09 01:17 PM |
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i'm not at all embarrassed- because i know what i'm saying is true. |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-22-09 01:28 PM |
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Talking out of your hat |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-22-09 10:46 PM |
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this isn't about the homeless people at shelters- |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-22-09 11:27 PM |
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And you get to decide who is a fat ass and who are poor. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-23-09 12:00 PM |
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i have the empirical data. |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-23-09 02:12 PM |
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God bless you. I know you don't. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-23-09 05:14 PM |
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This could be the "sleepy slope" of a country of spies and busy bodies |
question everything |
Sep-19-09 07:40 PM |
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that's why taxes would be a better option. |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-20-09 08:50 AM |
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I believe the term is "slippery slope". nt |
bertman |
Sep-20-09 04:11 PM |
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I agree 100% |
Taverner |
Sep-20-09 01:07 PM |
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Taxing junk food isn't a bad idea. |
LostInAnomie |
Sep-18-09 10:59 PM |
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Sorry, I don't |
question everything |
Sep-18-09 11:01 PM |
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google |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Sep-18-09 11:03 PM |
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Thanks, just did |
question everything |
Sep-18-09 11:07 PM |
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Was a group ever |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Sep-18-09 11:47 PM |
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That's a riot! |
question everything |
Sep-18-09 11:58 PM |
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Oh, it's priceless - |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Sep-19-09 12:00 AM |
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w00t |
d_b |
Sep-18-09 11:18 PM |
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That photograph |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Sep-18-09 11:24 PM |
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Depressed Dog's day just got worse |
d_b |
Sep-18-09 11:26 PM |
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Oh........... |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Sep-18-09 11:36 PM |
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I need to spend more time at the lounge, it seems (nt) |
question everything |
Sep-19-09 12:00 AM |
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Taxing Junk Food Is Excellent Idea |
otohara |
Sep-18-09 11:49 PM |
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universal health care might make them healthier too eh? n/t |
arthritisR_US |
Sep-18-09 11:52 PM |
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Touche' ... |
TeaBagsAreForCups |
Sep-19-09 02:00 AM |
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You can easily make your own "fast food: at home & less expensive. |
napi21 |
Sep-18-09 11:14 PM |
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I remember that clip from "Bowling for Columbine" |
question everything |
Sep-18-09 11:50 PM |
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There's no reason mom couldn't make up the burgers in advance & freeze them. |
napi21 |
Sep-19-09 12:02 AM |
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Yes. In all of that "spare time" she has. |
Maru Kitteh |
Sep-19-09 01:44 AM |
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You're assuming |
wickerwoman |
Sep-19-09 03:57 AM |
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I'm sure some of what you say is true, but, although I don't linve in circumstannces like that, |
napi21 |
Sep-19-09 07:37 AM |
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Yes, but you don't have to wash your griller in the shower |
wickerwoman |
Sep-20-09 04:00 AM |
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or you can just have some discipline |
paulsby |
Sep-19-09 01:23 AM |
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Yeah, cause that's the problem with single mothers of two who work 14 hours a day - they lack |
Maru Kitteh |
Sep-19-09 01:53 AM |
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it's not my standards |
paulsby |
Sep-19-09 01:55 AM |
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Sep-19-09 02:44 AM |
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I wish I could recommend a single post |
Missy Vixen |
Sep-19-09 03:31 AM |
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Thank you so much. I will bookmark this and address your mercury concerns in a PM. |
Maru Kitteh |
Sep-19-09 04:14 AM |
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SOME kinds of fish have mercury; others do not. |
alarimer |
Sep-19-09 08:00 AM |
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this is correct |
paulsby |
Sep-20-09 01:00 PM |
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Sep-19-09 07:51 AM |
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And contributes to overfishing, and introduces... |
Dr_Willie_Feelgood |
Sep-19-09 08:01 AM |
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Fifty cents???? When was the last time *you* went shopping. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-19-09 11:48 AM |
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i go shopping all the time |
paulsby |
Sep-20-09 01:02 PM |
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Those 19 minutes are hard to find when you work two jobs. |
ArbustoBuster |
Sep-19-09 01:13 AM |
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Where do you get the chemicals that make the burger taste like beef? |
Taverner |
Sep-20-09 01:08 PM |
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Bill Maher is a hack, a twit, self absorbed and sometimes right about things only by chance. |
NYC_SKP |
Sep-19-09 12:20 AM |
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He's a libertarian. So your characterization is correct. nt |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-19-09 02:16 PM |
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I disagree - I think he's funny, intelligent, usually right and puts the uberleft in their place |
Taverner |
Sep-20-09 01:10 PM |
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So even if your last sentence |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-20-09 01:20 PM |
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It doesn't negate it - but it is irony |
Taverner |
Sep-20-09 01:23 PM |
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Thanks for posting that about Dr. Benjamin |
Merlot |
Sep-19-09 01:11 AM |
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Bill Maher is misgynistic AND he's an asshole. "Bore, Gush - what's the difference?" |
Maru Kitteh |
Sep-19-09 01:41 AM |
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I guess it all comes down to choices. |
Greyhound |
Sep-19-09 04:51 AM |
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I don't recall C. Everett Koop being particularly svelte. |
njlib |
Sep-19-09 08:38 AM |
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It is all about Obama appointing her, not her weight. |
Greyhound |
Sep-19-09 02:04 PM |
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I'll remember that. n/t |
Cerridwen |
Sep-19-09 07:53 PM |
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Life expectancy in previous generations was about 65 |
question everything |
Sep-19-09 08:08 PM |
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Feeling a little hostile? |
Greyhound |
Sep-20-09 12:37 PM |
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I stopped watching Maher when he trashed Obama during the primaries. |
Doremus |
Sep-19-09 10:47 AM |
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Bill Maher has a problem with women. He often comes off as misogynistic. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-19-09 11:45 AM |
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Taxing consumer products which burden the health care system makes sense. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-19-09 12:00 PM |
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Strawberries and peanuts are some of the healthiest food around |
question everything |
Sep-19-09 08:15 PM |
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That tax should only apply to those without private insurance |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-21-09 10:43 AM |
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Instead of just picking on the fatties and blaming them for all things unhealthy |
Beacho |
Sep-20-09 05:53 PM |
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how would you tax skiing, scuba, and sky-diving? |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-21-09 10:20 AM |
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taxing skiing, scuba diving and sky diving could easily be done |
cali |
Sep-21-09 10:24 AM |
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i doubt that the industries that depend on the business would allow it to happen. |
dysfunctional press |
Sep-21-09 01:01 PM |
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I support luxury taxes instead. nt |
anonymous171 |
Sep-22-09 10:55 PM |
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Maher is your typical wealthy "progressive." Not worth my time. nt |
anonymous171 |
Sep-22-09 10:48 PM |
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Maher doesn't give a fuck about anyone, but himself... |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-23-09 12:04 PM |
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