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Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 102. This is how we change a generation... |
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your story sounds similar to mine regarding family, although I knew early on how racist my parents were. Somehow the hate they had never matched up with what I read in the bible. Calling them out on it did NOT go well so I learned to avoid it by leaving the room whenever the topic came up. As I grew older (and bolder) there were some very heated conversations about their hypocricy (sp?).
Something I like that Oprah said once, that if you know better you DO better. That's exactly what we have tried with our four kids and it is encouraging to see especially the teens take this to heart.
And to my father who is still alive but not able to reason, I loved you anyway but the way that our family treats others is a giant FUCK YOU to your hatred and bigotry. We taught them pretty much the exact opposite of most everything you taught me, and that seems to be just about right.
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| -I am a racist. |
ejbrush |
Sep-18-09 05:47 PM |
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I hate you. |
BuyingThyme |
Sep-18-09 05:49 PM |
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Why would you say that? |
GaYellowDawg |
Sep-18-09 06:40 PM |
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Just ironic absurdity. |
BuyingThyme |
Sep-18-09 11:04 PM |
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I hate me too |
stuball111 |
Sep-18-09 06:55 PM |
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Sure it is. |
Iggo |
Sep-18-09 11:06 PM |
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Whoa! |
stuball111 |
Sep-19-09 02:48 PM |
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Hmmm... doth thou protest too much? nt |
gateley |
Sep-18-09 07:03 PM |
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I don't know what to say. |
lamp_shade |
Sep-18-09 05:50 PM |
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No reason to bash you for honesty..... |
marmar |
Sep-18-09 05:50 PM |
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+1 |
katandmoon |
Sep-18-09 05:54 PM |
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I've met kids who don't have a racist bone in their body. |
tridim |
Sep-18-09 05:56 PM |
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The key word there - kids. People who are lucky enough to grow up |
redqueen |
Sep-18-09 05:59 PM |
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I agree 100% redqueen, but I have to say that growing up with parents who occasionally |
bertman |
Sep-18-09 07:42 PM |
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Yes -- it's conditioning and brainwashing. Nobody is born that way. nt |
gateley |
Sep-18-09 06:09 PM |
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Up to what age? |
imdjh |
Sep-19-09 01:04 AM |
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Wow. No bashing from me. |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-18-09 05:51 PM |
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Ferget that, yer a crappy spellr!! |
omega minimo |
Sep-18-09 05:51 PM |
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This may not go well. |
flvegan |
Sep-18-09 05:51 PM |
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You'll be needing beer with that |
leftstreet |
Sep-18-09 05:56 PM |
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Am I the only one who doesn't like beer with popcorn? |
blondeatlast |
Sep-18-09 06:34 PM |
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Popcorn can only go with one beverage. |
darkstar3 |
Sep-18-09 06:44 PM |
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well in that case fuck the popcorn |
name not needed |
Sep-18-09 06:45 PM |
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+1 |
Ignis |
Sep-18-09 07:30 PM |
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Are you a Democrat? Did you vote for Obama? |
tridim |
Sep-18-09 05:52 PM |
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I think it's brave of you to write this, and I think acknowledging what |
babylonsister |
Sep-18-09 05:52 PM |
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It sounds like the OP is talking about being acclimated to an environment |
omega minimo |
Sep-18-09 06:56 PM |
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I am glad that you are working on it. |
tosh |
Sep-18-09 05:54 PM |
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Racism is deeply embedded in our culture. |
liberalmuse |
Sep-18-09 05:55 PM |
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'Mexicans are such hard workers', 'Blacks are very spiritual' aren't racist. |
subcomhd |
Sep-18-09 06:02 PM |
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assigning qualities to a group soley because of their skin color |
noiretextatique |
Sep-18-09 06:43 PM |
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it's stereotyping, but racism implies a put down. nt |
subcomhd |
Sep-18-09 09:18 PM |
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Perhaps I missed the memo. Can you please define |
Ruby the Liberal |
Sep-18-09 06:48 PM |
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no prob. |
subcomhd |
Sep-18-09 09:21 PM |
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Define this: Blacks are just like whites except for skin color. |
imdjh |
Sep-19-09 01:09 AM |
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Sounds like someone's awkward attempt at not being racist. nt |
subcomhd |
Sep-19-09 08:32 AM |
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I would say it's an intellectual void. |
imdjh |
Sep-19-09 10:09 AM |
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racism, like much right-wing "thought " |
subcomhd |
Sep-19-09 10:51 AM |
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Everybody is a little bit racist, just like everyone is a little bit gay. |
Ian David |
Sep-18-09 05:55 PM |
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Hmm.. |
BuyingThyme |
Sep-18-09 05:59 PM |
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This is basically what social scientists have concluded. There is no such thing as the non-prejudice |
Bonn1997 |
Sep-18-09 06:04 PM |
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Yep. |
BuyingThyme |
Sep-18-09 06:05 PM |
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Here's a fantasy shot for you.... |
PassingFair |
Sep-18-09 06:36 PM |
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Thanks! n/t |
Ian David |
Sep-18-09 06:48 PM |
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I think I like this post I'm not sure. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-18-09 05:57 PM |
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No flames from me... I commend you for your honesty. |
redqueen |
Sep-18-09 05:58 PM |
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That is exactly what I was thinking |
Chemisse |
Sep-18-09 07:55 PM |
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Good on you for posting this. |
Cant trust em |
Sep-18-09 05:59 PM |
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I grew up in Alabama during the 60s and 70s |
angrycarpenter |
Sep-18-09 06:01 PM |
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My mother grew up in North Carolina and actively taught us not to be racists |
lunatica |
Sep-18-09 06:18 PM |
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wonderful story |
G_j |
Sep-18-09 10:03 PM |
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That's a wonderful example to emulate, your folks were real good hearted. +1 |
GivePeaceAchance |
Sep-19-09 01:53 AM |
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I know there are good people in the south...sorry this stereotype persists n/t |
TK421 |
Sep-19-09 04:01 PM |
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I understand what you're saying - |
mzteris |
Sep-18-09 06:01 PM |
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No points for honesty unless change and improvement go along with it, tiger.... |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-18-09 06:03 PM |
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Technically, you may have suffered a rush to judgement on yourself. |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-18-09 06:04 PM |
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Nicely put. |
byronius |
Sep-18-09 06:48 PM |
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Hm. Food for thought. |
lapislzi |
Sep-19-09 11:21 AM |
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I can't tell you |
Bluerthanblue |
Sep-18-09 06:04 PM |
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I think everybody has SOME racism |
hfojvt |
Sep-18-09 06:05 PM |
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how could a white person who grew up in segregation |
noiretextatique |
Sep-18-09 06:25 PM |
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well I was born in 1962 and thus there was not segregation in my childhood |
hfojvt |
Sep-18-09 07:42 PM |
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Some prejudice |
voc |
Sep-19-09 01:32 AM |
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something i wrote a few days ago |
barbtries |
Sep-18-09 06:06 PM |
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Heh. My typical standard for judging is: Would this person be comfortable with his/her daughter... |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-18-09 06:10 PM |
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there ya go. |
barbtries |
Sep-18-09 06:17 PM |
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hahahah! |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-18-09 06:19 PM |
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The "Halle Berry dating your son" measuring stick is pretty useless. |
JBoy |
Sep-18-09 06:21 PM |
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Yah - that one doesn't work so well. lolol! |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-18-09 06:22 PM |
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Why is that? (nt) |
redqueen |
Sep-18-09 06:27 PM |
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Intersection between racism and sexism. |
iris27 |
Sep-18-09 06:38 PM |
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Gah... no wonder it makes my skin crawl. |
redqueen |
Sep-18-09 06:44 PM |
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Any one that says "I'm not a racist, but so and so is" |
safeinOhio |
Sep-18-09 06:06 PM |
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My favorite is "I'm not a racist, but..." |
imdjh |
Sep-19-09 01:10 AM |
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yep, I'm not racist but (insert racist statement here) |
subcomhd |
Sep-19-09 08:38 AM |
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"God created black people to test our patience." Yes, I have heard it. |
imdjh |
Sep-19-09 10:20 AM |
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Here is a relevant, easy to follow video worth watching |
Bonn1997 |
Sep-18-09 06:07 PM |
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I'm English, Irish, Scot and German... |
Lagomorph |
Sep-18-09 06:08 PM |
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That's priceless. I hadn't thought about that. |
byronius |
Sep-18-09 06:43 PM |
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The ego manifests weakness in many different ways. Racism is one of them. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-18-09 06:11 PM |
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slavery and jim crow were not about "ego" |
noiretextatique |
Sep-18-09 06:28 PM |
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Yes they were. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-18-09 06:39 PM |
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i understand what you mean now |
noiretextatique |
Sep-18-09 06:45 PM |
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It's your actions that count, so keep up the good work. |
JBoy |
Sep-18-09 06:14 PM |
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I am so glad that when I went to college after living in small, rich mostly white town. |
Jennicut |
Sep-18-09 06:14 PM |
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i appreciate your honesty |
noiretextatique |
Sep-18-09 06:17 PM |
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..... |
gateley |
Sep-18-09 06:19 PM |
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when ever this subject comes up I am reminded of the movie "A Time to Kill" |
NMDemDist2 |
Sep-18-09 06:24 PM |
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"If I have children, they will be better persons than I, I will make sure of it." |
iris27 |
Sep-18-09 06:32 PM |
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My dad (Boston Irish Catholic) was anti-Semitic. I never knew that growing up -- |
gateley |
Sep-18-09 07:51 PM |
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This is how we change a generation... |
Dappleganger |
Sep-18-09 10:54 PM |
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No flames from me. |
cliffordu |
Sep-18-09 06:35 PM |
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"...bash me senseless at your own leisure." |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-18-09 06:42 PM |
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I have some of that similar programming. Texas style. |
byronius |
Sep-18-09 06:42 PM |
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OK. Good luck with all that... |
MineralMan |
Sep-18-09 06:44 PM |
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As others have said, I appreciate your honesty. |
CBR |
Sep-18-09 06:47 PM |
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People may dismantle racism and bigotry within |
LatteLibertine |
Sep-18-09 07:08 PM |
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I'm pretty fucking sure that all of us have had racist /anti-semitic/gay-bashing thoughts.Except for |
Happyhippychick |
Sep-18-09 07:13 PM |
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"Let he who has never sinned cast the first stone" |
varelse |
Sep-18-09 07:14 PM |
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The eye-rolling and tee-heeing in this thread puzzles me. I think this is a very honest and true |
Brickbat |
Sep-18-09 07:16 PM |
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I don't get it either. |
Forkboy |
Sep-18-09 09:20 PM |
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i've been pointing people to this article |
AusDem |
Sep-18-09 07:19 PM |
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IMHO, the only trustworthy white American, when it comes to race relations |
Karenina |
Sep-18-09 07:26 PM |
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if it's not race or gender, then it's usually something, |
G_j |
Sep-18-09 09:54 PM |
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Not usually, my dearest G_j |
Karenina |
Sep-19-09 02:24 PM |
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I see what you're saying |
G_j |
Sep-19-09 03:15 PM |
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Dysfunction, indeed! |
Karenina |
Sep-19-09 04:14 PM |
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thinking about it, I honestly believe |
G_j |
Sep-19-09 04:28 PM |
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I wouldn't go quite that far. But damn close. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-19-09 03:17 PM |
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I went THAT far??? Oh, dear... |
Karenina |
Sep-19-09 03:45 PM |
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You.... too-far-goer! |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-19-09 03:48 PM |
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Thanks for your honesty and courage. |
lurky |
Sep-18-09 07:28 PM |
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Racism is a tool that is often used by the wealthy/ruling class to divide people |
LatteLibertine |
Sep-18-09 07:35 PM |
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well, if everyone in the world checked their DNA |
Mari333 |
Sep-18-09 07:38 PM |
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+1 |
voc |
Sep-19-09 01:41 AM |
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Despite how |
Libertas1776 |
Sep-18-09 08:26 PM |
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I want to thank you for this post .... |
gleaner |
Sep-18-09 08:47 PM |
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The tree of racism has been cut down long ago... |
LanternWaste |
Sep-18-09 09:06 PM |
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Have some popcorn... |
elshiva |
Sep-18-09 09:16 PM |
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Congratulations to you for knowing the dark side of yourself, and your |
LynnTheDem |
Sep-18-09 09:18 PM |
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Good for you.. |
zytime |
Sep-18-09 09:34 PM |
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I Admire Your Honesty |
Raejeanowl |
Sep-18-09 09:36 PM |
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Most people are, somewhat. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-18-09 09:42 PM |
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Or a degree of resentment? |
tnlefty |
Sep-18-09 09:54 PM |
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I noticed my own prejudices in my 30's |
laughingliberal |
Sep-18-09 10:00 PM |
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What would this thread be without the inevitable cliche... |
The Animator |
Sep-18-09 10:44 PM |
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I think this is one of the major things that separates the Right and the Left. |
Forkboy |
Sep-18-09 11:02 PM |
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You're a class act in my book. One of the finest threads I've ever seen here.... |
Rowdyboy |
Sep-18-09 10:55 PM |
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You've Got To Be Carefully Taught… |
TicketyBoo |
Sep-18-09 10:56 PM |
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I have not read any of the other posts yet. |
Quantess |
Sep-18-09 11:11 PM |
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No flames from me |
guitar man |
Sep-18-09 11:28 PM |
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I see the majority of posts here have commended you for coming out for this |
TK421 |
Sep-18-09 11:33 PM |
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I was a white minority in my NM schools. |
alittlelark |
Sep-19-09 01:15 AM |
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I've got a bit of that. |
optimal-tomato |
Sep-19-09 01:15 AM |
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Now Jesse Owens, he was black but also the fastest racist of his time. |
Kablooie |
Sep-19-09 01:24 AM |
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Takes a brave person to admit their flaws. No judgment here. .. |
GivePeaceAchance |
Sep-19-09 01:25 AM |
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I am Spartacus! |
Fuzz |
Sep-19-09 01:45 AM |
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Know thyself |
tama |
Sep-19-09 03:41 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-19-09 08:41 AM |
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Maybe if so many of your Republican friends weren't racist it wouldn't be a problem. |
Forkboy |
Sep-19-09 08:46 AM |
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"he's an asshole because he's an asshole" |
Patiod |
Sep-19-09 10:17 AM |
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Damn, If only the cucumbers had flourished like this thread... |
ejbrush |
Sep-19-09 10:55 AM |
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Hmmm. |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-19-09 02:18 PM |
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Let's call it pleasant suprise, eh? |
ejbrush |
Sep-19-09 03:01 PM |
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Yeah. |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-19-09 03:19 PM |
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Babykins, are you stuck there? |
Karenina |
Sep-19-09 02:50 PM |
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Superb Bloody Mary? I won't leave a bar without them telling me what they put |
TK421 |
Sep-19-09 03:53 PM |
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