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Response to Reply #112
151. The Confederacy was established on the notion that slavery should be maintained
Edited on Sat Sep-19-09 04:58 AM by Selatius
The wealthy of the south stood to lose, in today's dollars, tens of billions of dollars worth of "assets" that they considered "property." When I say "assets" and "property," I mean slaves. Abraham Lincoln did not himself state that he wanted to abolish slavery, but that was quickly ignored in the aftermath of his election.

The elites who ran the South bolted, and they rallied the poor masses to take up guns for them by stoking the fires of nationalism and playing upon their ignorance.
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  -"The War of Southern Treason" - raised a few eyebrows when calling the Civil War this Taverner  Sep-18-09 04:45 PM   #0 
  - That Is Its Proper Name, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-18-09 04:52 PM   #1 
  - I'm still fond of "the Slaver's Revolt," myself. (nt)  Posteritatis   Sep-18-09 07:57 PM   #41 
  - Karl Marx on "The North American Civil War" (1861 article)  JackRiddler   Sep-19-09 12:00 PM   #167 
     - Very Interesting...wish I could rec a reply  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:11 PM   #193 
  - It's treason if  Yupster   Sep-20-09 01:54 PM   #238 
  - Truth is an absolute defense.  Nuclear Unicorn   Sep-18-09 04:54 PM   #2 
  - That is from  Libertas1776   Sep-18-09 05:02 PM   #3 
  - Yes indeed  Taverner   Sep-18-09 05:25 PM   #16 
  - I just hope Non-Southerners realize,  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-18-09 05:04 PM   #4 
  - Bingo. I won't defend the Confederacy, but the Union engaged in many atrocities of its own  ET Awful   Sep-18-09 05:12 PM   #8 
  - The winner writes history. Ask W*.  DCKit   Sep-18-09 05:24 PM   #15 
  - No - they aren't - and there are many untold stories of Union collaboration among Southerners  Taverner   Sep-18-09 05:26 PM   #17 
  - Your side started it. The South would not quit until our hero Sherman  liquid diamond   Sep-19-09 03:30 AM   #145 
     - Speak For Yourself...  DrCory   Sep-19-09 07:07 AM   #161 
     - Those letters were written after the Civil War. I was talking about  liquid diamond   Sep-19-09 03:36 PM   #189 
     - Ah, I See...  DrCory   Sep-19-09 07:28 PM   #214 
     - Sherman was a Psycho  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:14 PM   #197 
     - Well, to be honest  Dan   Sep-19-09 11:26 PM   #228 
     - FTR it is none of our sides. The folks who's side it was are long dead.  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:12 PM   #194 
  - I'm from Virginia  backwoodsbob   Sep-18-09 05:08 PM   #5 
  - This is not south-bashing. This is just history.  redqueen   Sep-18-09 05:10 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-09 05:18 PM   #10 
     - Yes, it is. No shocking pictures at that site? (nt)  redqueen   Sep-18-09 05:20 PM   #12 
     - I stand corrected re: post 7  liberaltrucker   Sep-18-09 05:22 PM   #14 
     - Yes it is, but as many have stated, there was almost a concerted effort at Andersonville...  Taverner   Sep-18-09 05:30 PM   #19 
     - IHR = Institute for Historical Review  Octafish   Sep-18-09 05:34 PM   #22 
     - Did it? Does that mean the information is false? (nt)  redqueen   Sep-18-09 06:40 PM   #32 
        - They are wrong about the Holocaust...  Octafish   Sep-18-09 07:43 PM   #38 
        - I won't go there, but ...  RoyGBiv   Sep-18-09 08:04 PM   #44 
           - It was a civil war and outside of World Wars  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-19-09 01:53 AM   #59 
        - It's safe to assume that *anything* out of the IHR is suspect, yes  Posteritatis   Sep-18-09 07:55 PM   #39 
        - A Much Better general Account, Ma'am, may be Found Here  The Magistrate   Sep-18-09 07:56 PM   #40 
     - Remember the consequences of cause-and-effect: That POW camp would never have existed  Aristus   Sep-18-09 05:39 PM   #23 
        - Actually, Lincoln started it by trying to resupply the fort  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 01:15 AM   #52 
           - Blaming the victim, eh?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 01:17 AM   #53 
           - Not trying to blame the victim here  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 01:28 AM   #55 
              - Illustrate a little harder, will you?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 01:44 AM   #57 
                 - Thats not a complaint, sir  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 02:00 AM   #61 
                 - Yes, it's a fact. It's just that there's nothing wrong with it.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:02 AM   #63 
                    - Yeah, what happens if President Obama attempts to resupply Fort Hood?  Aristus   Sep-19-09 11:04 AM   #163 
                 - The Rationalizations Of the Southron, Sir, Are Intricate As a Bucket Of Earthworms  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:01 AM   #62 
           - You Cannot Seriously Maintain that Constituted Aggression, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 01:22 AM   #54 
           - No, I do not but my ancestors  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 01:40 AM   #56 
              - Was that before or after your moronic ancestors committed treason?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 01:45 AM   #58 
              - Do you really think that was necessary?  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 02:09 AM   #66 
                 - Hey, you said it yourself.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:10 AM   #67 
              - Then, Sir, They Were Traitors And Criminals, And Their View is Of No Consequence  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 01:57 AM   #60 
                 - That may be your view sir  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 02:06 AM   #64 
                 - Technically, it's a fact.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:07 AM   #65 
                 - Sure...  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 02:30 AM   #85 
                    - The Civil War is a failure on the south's level.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:31 AM   #87 
                       - Really?  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 02:40 AM   #99 
                          - As long as you're a confederate apologist...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:43 AM   #106 
                             - Haw haw!  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 02:54 AM   #119 
                                - Answer me this - do you think it's OK to fly the Confederate Flag?  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:13 PM   #195 
                                   - I suppose that would depend on which confederate flag and where it flew. Because...  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 04:52 PM   #202 
                                      - Hmmm are you talking about the debunked Jesse Jackson rumor?  Taverner   Sep-19-09 05:23 PM   #204 
                                         - I have no idea what you are talking about, I will have to Google that one.  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 05:35 PM   #205 
                 - No, Sir: They Were Traitors Going To War For The Right To Hold Slaves  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:13 AM   #70 
                 - "A Tropical Empire" - that alone should confirm everything you are saying  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:10 PM   #192 
                 - poor folks trapped. if they hadn't been gungho for it, then the  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:36 AM   #92 
                    - Generous? Hmmm, yeah well ....  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 02:46 AM   #110 
                       - if you are a southern sympathizer for the war, you are not hiding it  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:53 AM   #117 
                          - If I were a "southern sympathizer" it seems  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 03:06 AM   #136 
                          - You are related to Jefferson Davis? His plantation is one town west of my home.  Selatius   Sep-19-09 04:39 AM   #150 
                 - I am an ex- Southerner and I agree with you. Enough of the BS rationalizations.  DevonRex   Sep-19-09 12:31 PM   #174 
           - the south left. they had the ball first. Jeez. Lincoln was relieving a  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:33 AM   #89 
           - LOL - That's like "He started it - he was breathin' and that can only mean one thing..."  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:08 PM   #191 
  - That my friend is HISTORY.  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-18-09 05:20 PM   #11 
  - Sherman went a bit psycho there  Taverner   Sep-18-09 05:31 PM   #21 
  - Well at least Sherman got one thing right  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-18-09 05:46 PM   #25 
     - Actually it was the British Army that first refered to the M4  Thothmes   Sep-19-09 05:13 AM   #154 
     - Didn't they call the Sherman the "Ronson Lighter" because...  proteus_lives   Sep-19-09 04:13 PM   #196 
        - Yes, the M4 used a gasoline engine. Pretty east to lite off  Thothmes   Sep-20-09 05:55 AM   #234 
  - Eh ... I dunno ...  RoyGBiv   Sep-18-09 08:16 PM   #45 
  - Not South Bashing, Confederate Bashing  Taverner   Sep-18-09 05:27 PM   # 
  - Nobody's south-bashing. This happened so long ago, but  MineralMan   Sep-18-09 06:38 PM   #30 
  - this isn't southern bashing. this is about stupid decisions and actions  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:31 AM   #86 
  - As a Mississippian, I'll tell you straight up that human skeleton is part of our history.  Selatius   Sep-19-09 04:34 AM   #149 
     - As an ex-Miss, I agree. It's just a fact, plain and simple. nt  DevonRex   Sep-19-09 12:32 PM   #175 
  - As a transplanted Southerner, I agree with you.  liberaltrucker   Sep-18-09 05:10 PM   #7 
  - Northern Prison Camps Were No Treat, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-18-09 05:27 PM   #18 
  - I agree and see nothing admirable about Confederate sympathizers  wishlist   Sep-18-09 05:13 PM   #9 
  - Same here.  GoCubsGo   Sep-18-09 05:52 PM   #26 
     - same crap Perry spouts in Texas, that Texas can leave when it wants  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:39 AM   #96 
  - How about "That time those dumbfucks got too uppity and ended up getting their asses whooped and...  JVS   Sep-18-09 05:22 PM   #13 
  - No one wins arguments by talking about atrocities,  darkstar3   Sep-18-09 05:30 PM   #20 
  - Call it "The War of Northern Aggression" and see if eyebrows raise... n/t  Ghost in the Machine   Sep-18-09 05:46 PM   #24 
  - They will here in CA - they will not in TX  Taverner   Sep-18-09 06:14 PM   #27 
     - Baloney  TxRider   Sep-19-09 06:58 PM   #213 
     - Goes To Show How Much You Know About Modern-Day Texas.  Paladin   Sep-19-09 09:24 PM   #221 
  - Remind me why we fought so hard to get these guys back...  jgraz   Sep-18-09 06:19 PM   #28 
  - Because there were many Americans from the South who were good and decent  Taverner   Sep-18-09 08:01 PM   #43 
  - Name me one Brigade that went North to fight to fight  Thothmes   Sep-19-09 05:06 AM   #153 
  - Because you wanted our resources, our money, our military and our manhood. n/t  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 01:03 AM   #51 
  - Oh, and there was that little thing about ending your holocaust against black people  jgraz   Sep-19-09 04:30 AM   #148 
  - Because the South started the war and wouldn't have stopped short of taking DC.  JackRiddler   Sep-19-09 11:43 AM   #165 
     - Exactly!  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:41 PM   #200 
  - Its fought  OwnedByFerrets   Sep-18-09 06:23 PM   #29 
  - And, it's "it's" /nt  October   Sep-18-09 06:39 PM   #31 
     - ...  OwnedByFerrets   Sep-18-09 10:40 PM   #47 
  - I have my gr grandfathers sign up certificate for the Civil War  Mari333   Sep-18-09 06:41 PM   #33 
  - I love little  Libertas1776   Sep-18-09 06:51 PM   #35 
     - Wow!  Taverner   Sep-18-09 10:10 PM   #46 
        - Is there a public archives in your neck of the woods?  Posteritatis   Sep-18-09 11:06 PM   #48 
        - Go find a university library that has some historical documents and  struggle4progress   Sep-18-09 11:26 PM   #49 
  - Both sides  Libertas1776   Sep-18-09 06:48 PM   #34 
  - The winner usually writes the history. I'm sure there were  OwnedByFerrets   Sep-18-09 07:20 PM   #37 
  - Do you realize  Treo   Sep-19-09 06:24 PM   #209 
  - also, Quantrell's raiders and the like. Jesse James had to come from  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:41 AM   #100 
  - The Souths biggest crime...  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 02:59 AM   #125 
  - Absolutely it was treason.  Brickbat   Sep-18-09 07:01 PM   #36 
  - Amazing how just the other day.....  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Sep-18-09 08:00 PM   #42 
  - I'm a proud Georgian that thanks God every day that I was born in America  kdpeters   Sep-19-09 12:38 AM   #50 
  - the south would have been in a bad way. the union manufacturing  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:42 AM   #102 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-19-09 02:11 AM   #68 
  - The far left gang raped the south?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:13 AM   #69 
  - I didn't say that.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:15 AM   #71 
     - But it doesn't apply to the South?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:17 AM   #72 
     - Yes, they did.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:17 AM   #73 
        - It was certainly left of the South.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:18 AM   #74 
           - No matter how much you wish it to be true...  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:21 AM   #75 
              - Oh, the Confederacy had much in common with Nazi Germany.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:22 AM   #77 
              - That's two points. What else do you have?  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:24 AM   #79 
                 - They both started the wars they got their asses kicked in.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:25 AM   #81 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-19-09 02:32 AM   #88 
                    - The south were big fans of gun control  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:36 AM   #93 
                       - Read what I wrote more closely.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:40 AM   #98 
                          - "Negroes were not "citizens" of the Confederacy."  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:42 AM   #103 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-19-09 02:46 AM   #109 
                             - You wanted them to be points, but you failed.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:49 AM   #114 
                                - I'm not talking about the Germans. I'm talking about you.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:51 AM   #116 
                                   - Hey, it's your logic, I'm just taking it to the logical conclusion.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:54 AM   #118 
                                      - Obama.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:57 AM   #122 
                                      - You mean the guy who beat the snot out of the Republicans?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:58 AM   #123 
                                      - I wouldn't say that 7 million votes counts as "beating the snot"....  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 03:03 AM   #130 
                                      - You can call it whatever you want.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 03:05 AM   #133 
                                      - If you say so.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 03:06 AM   #135 
                                      - Nope.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 03:08 AM   #137 
                                      - I wouldn't know. I'm not a teabagger. Or a Republican.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 03:09 AM   #138 
                                      - That's great.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 03:11 AM   #139 
                                      - You got the first syllable right.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 03:12 AM   #141 
                                      - You can go now.  Maru Kitteh   Sep-19-09 04:03 AM   #146 
                                      - Funniest post of the week.  Forkboy   Sep-19-09 07:48 AM   #162 
                             - Per the SCOTUS decision Scott vs. Sandford  Thothmes   Sep-19-09 08:01 PM   #220 
                 - an overblown sense of their own strength and holiness. a belief  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:45 AM   #108 
                    - "Thank God it didn't?"  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:48 AM   #113 
                    - yeah, thank god that it didn't. As for the Palin comment, shove it.  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 03:00 AM   #126 
                       - As usual....  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 03:01 AM   #128 
                          - Don't stutter.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 03:03 AM   #131 
                    - Gettysburg  Confusious   Sep-19-09 05:26 AM   #155 
              - Do You Bother To Think Of What You Write, Sir?  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:24 AM   #80 
                 - Not precisely.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:34 AM   #90 
                 - No Essential Difference, Dear: Racism was the Guiding Light, Slavery the Purpose of the State  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:37 AM   #95 
                    - That has nothing at all to do with my response.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:41 AM   #101 
                       - Nonesense, Sweetie: the Confederacy Was About Slavery, And Nothing Else  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:44 AM   #107 
                       - See my "Bullshit" comment for details, honey-bunch.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:47 AM   #112 
                          - The Confederacy was established on the notion that slavery should be maintained  Selatius   Sep-19-09 04:47 AM   #151 
                          - Hmmm, a lot like the Health Care/Insurance "debate" going on now.  SharonAnn   Sep-19-09 11:20 AM   #164 
                          - Yes  lumpy   Sep-19-09 03:12 PM   #186 
                          - thank you!  newspeak   Sep-19-09 12:26 PM   #173 
                          - Read the secession papers for the states  Confusious   Sep-19-09 05:30 AM   #156 
                       - Which States Rights were being violated by the Federal Government  Thothmes   Sep-19-09 05:01 AM   #152 
                 - And the whole "Tropical Empire"  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:16 PM   #198 
                    - There Certainly Were Designs On Mexico, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 06:44 PM   #212 
     - The Left Is A Pack Of Rapists, Sir? That Is Your Contribution To This Discussion, And This Forum?  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:21 AM   #76 
        - In this case, it's simply an observation.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:23 AM   #78 
           - Did the U.S. commit much systematic rape?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:26 AM   # 
           - Did the U.S. commit much systematic rape?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:26 AM   #82 
           - Did the U.S. commit much systematic rape?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-19-09 02:26 AM   #83 
           - Don't stutter.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:35 AM   #91 
           - If You Are Just Trying To Appear An Ignorant Fool, Sir, You Are Doing a Most impressive Job Of It  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:28 AM   #84 
           - I never thought about it that way....  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:36 AM   #94 
              - Not Much Of a Chess-Player, Are You, Sweetie?  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:39 AM   #97 
              - Right back at you, sugar-booger. :D  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:42 AM   #104 
              - A Nazi apologist, a Confederacy apologist, and,  Marr   Sep-19-09 06:39 AM   #159 
              - even though "socialist" might have been in the name  newspeak   Sep-19-09 12:58 PM   #179 
           - we are talking about the Union and CSA armies here. If you want to  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:46 AM   #111 
              - "Revenge against the dumbfucks that killed 50 million of their people?"  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:50 AM   #115 
                 - Not Only A Confederate Apologist But a Nazi Apologist, Then, Sweetie....  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 02:54 AM   #120 
                 - Does one rape justify another?  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 02:58 AM   #124 
                    - Murderers Should Be Put To Death, Sweet-Heart  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 03:01 AM   #129 
                 - I don't justify anything. Its you ignoring human motivation that makes  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:57 AM   #121 
                 - Actually, you did, though.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 03:00 AM   #127 
                    - You Know, Honey, For A Fella Who Lists 'Making amateur pornography' As His Hobby  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 03:04 AM   #132 
                    - You're looking up my profile? LOLOLOLOLOL!  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 03:05 AM   #134 
                       - Just Part Of the Death-Watch, Sweet-Heart....  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 03:11 AM   #140 
                          - The only things weaker than insults are veiled threats.  TannerBoyle   Sep-19-09 03:13 AM   #142 
                             - If You Say So, Dear....  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 03:16 AM   #143 
                    - How'd you get 10 million?  Confusious   Sep-19-09 05:34 AM   #157 
                 - Germany Gangraped their country, the Soviets went and Gangraped Germany  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:43 PM   #201 
  - wow. you need to read a few books. try shelby and others. truly.  roguevalley   Sep-19-09 02:42 AM   #105 
  - My Great Grand Uncle, Foghorn Leghorn, called it "The War Of Northern Aggression" till His Dying Day  Wiley50   Sep-19-09 03:18 AM   #144 
  - Like nearly all of them, fighting this war was a huge mistake.  Greyhound   Sep-19-09 04:13 AM   #147 
  - Lincoln liberated the blacks and the Native Americans. nt  Tim01   Sep-19-09 05:53 AM   #158 
  - The Union had their own version of Andersonville  Lagomorph   Sep-19-09 07:06 AM   #160 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-19-09 12:05 PM   #169 
     - You Know, Fella, Once You Link To A Holocaust Denial Site, You Pretty Much Forfeit The Argument  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 12:15 PM   #172 
  - What exactly is DU's facination  Texasgal   Sep-19-09 11:45 AM   #166 
  - Maybe the fact that the southern right wants to start another one has something to do with it.  jgraz   Sep-19-09 12:04 PM   #168 
  - I've lived in Texas all of my life  Texasgal   Sep-19-09 12:12 PM   #170 
     - Me either n/t  tammywammy   Sep-19-09 12:32 PM   #176 
     - Well, there's this obscure Texan who's been calling for secession recently  jgraz   Sep-19-09 12:36 PM   #177 
        - Is That The Governor There, Sir? The Governor's Name Is Rick Perry, Is It Not?  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 12:48 PM   #178 
        - and uhh...Most Texans polled didn't agree  Texasgal   Sep-19-09 01:35 PM   #181 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-19-09 02:04 PM   #183 
              - why are you being so rude?  Texasgal   Sep-19-09 02:10 PM   #184 
                 - I dunno... maybe your sarcastic response had something to do with it?  jgraz   Sep-19-09 02:18 PM   #185 
                    - +1. Never fired the first shot nt  Selatius   Sep-19-09 03:18 PM   #187 
                       - Oof. Well played.  jgraz   Sep-19-09 05:57 PM   #207 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-19-09 01:18 PM   #180 
  - I guess.. kind of weird if you ask me.  Texasgal   Sep-19-09 01:37 PM   #182 
  - Offers almost unlimited opportunities to bash those folks  Thothmes   Sep-19-09 07:55 PM   #218 
  - Calling Lee and Jackson "domestic terrorists" really makes their heads explode  WonderGrunion   Sep-19-09 12:13 PM   #171 
  - Starvation was a serious problem in the south after the war.  Ilsa   Sep-19-09 03:29 PM   #188 
  - Who Shined You On With That, Ma'am?  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 03:41 PM   #190 
  - What do you want? I live in the south and consider  Ilsa   Sep-20-09 09:16 AM   #236 
     - Merely Inquiring after a Source, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Sep-20-09 01:17 PM   #237 
        - My great great grandparents were not slave or plantation owners. They  Ilsa   Sep-20-09 02:17 PM   #239 
           - There Were a Number Of Union Folk At The South, Ma'am, As There were Copperheads In the North  The Magistrate   Sep-20-09 02:56 PM   #240 
  - That is only because Southern Farmers DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO WORK THEIR OWN LAND!!!!  Taverner   Sep-19-09 04:21 PM   #199 
     - 1. It's because the vast majority of the war was fought in the South causing great devastation.  Uncle Joe   Sep-19-09 05:15 PM   #203 
     - The Figures Familiar To Me, Sir, Are Five Millions Of Whites And Four Millions Of Negroes  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 05:39 PM   #206 
        - Yes sir, I partially agree with you in that transportation was more primitive in the South  Uncle Joe   Sep-19-09 06:05 PM   #208 
           - It Is True Enough, Sir, that the Losing Side Winds Up Lean  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 06:28 PM   #210 
           - And the correct answer is....  The Midway Rebel   Sep-19-09 06:41 PM   #211 
     - Not everyone was a rich slave owner. Not even most.  Lagomorph   Sep-19-09 11:53 PM   #231 
  - Hate is NOT a family value  Treo   Sep-19-09 07:29 PM   #215 
  - Marching Through Georgia, Sir?  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 07:37 PM   #216 
     - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, Sir.  Uncle Joe   Sep-19-09 07:48 PM   #217 
     - Though Modern, Sir, that Is A Fine Tune, And Ms. Baez' Version Its Best By far  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 07:56 PM   #219 
     - Ooo Oooo Can I play?  Treo   Sep-19-09 09:57 PM   #222 
        - Not With That Wretch, Sir, You Cannot: Now If It Were The Old man, that Would Be Different....  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 10:07 PM   #223 
           - H8R NT  Treo   Sep-19-09 10:10 PM   #224 
           - Try this one  Treo   Sep-19-09 10:24 PM   #225 
              - A Little Better, Sir, But Not Really In the Spirit Of the Exercise: Perhaps This Will Serve You, Eh?  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 10:52 PM   #226 
                 - You do know the original Bonnie Blue Flag had nothing to do W/ the CSA right? NT  Treo   Sep-19-09 11:11 PM   #227 
                    - From A Failed Bit Of Filibustering Before The 1812 War, In Spanish Land, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-19-09 11:33 PM   #229 
                       - A slightly different version was sung in John Wayne's The Horse Soldiers  Treo   Sep-19-09 11:40 PM   #230 
                          - Not Much Of a Fan Of The Old Poseur, Sir, And Do Not Recall the Movie You Mention  The Magistrate   Sep-20-09 12:09 AM   #232 
                             - I didn't say anything about the Civil War  Treo   Sep-20-09 08:00 AM   #235 
  - Error: you can only recommend threads which were...  Blue_Tires   Sep-20-09 01:21 AM   #233 
 

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