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Fri Sep-18-09 01:11 PM
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| 17. What has been truly disgusting is all the concessions made that garnered not a single Republican |
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vote....
And, they know it won't. This just exposes the game. We have to negotiate to get legislation, yet we garner zero support
for doing so, OR we negotiate away everything of value to appease a single Republican. It is just a big con job. The democrats
get to pretend they tried to fight for real reform (after negotiating the reform intended all along behind closed doors
with insurance & pharm reps), and the Republicans can play games to pretend they are fighting for their lunatic base.
It is insanity.
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| -Fuck Olympia Snowe, bipartisanship, and the 60 vote myth! (And, btw, FUCK insurance profits)! |
debbierlus |
Sep-18-09 12:04 PM |
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K&R |
SammyWinstonJack |
Sep-18-09 12:05 PM |
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danke (nt) |
fascisthunter |
Sep-18-09 12:06 PM |
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Excellent rant |
Neecy |
Sep-18-09 12:07 PM |
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Oh, I have to add my rant guy to the post! Thanks :) |
debbierlus |
Sep-18-09 12:09 PM |
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You got it. |
Wapsie B |
Sep-18-09 12:11 PM |
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51 is a majority |
samsingh |
Sep-18-09 12:11 PM |
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"do left wing votes count less than repug votes?" |
FiveGoodMen |
Sep-18-09 12:51 PM |
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The motion to proceed to the consideration of a conference report... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Sep-18-09 01:09 PM |
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Big Deal! So you let the Republicans filibuster, if they dare, until you get 60 votes to end debate |
Better Believe It |
Sep-18-09 01:11 PM |
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Thank you. |
Janice325 |
Sep-18-09 12:14 PM |
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We just need to let them know - to the phones & their offices.... |
debbierlus |
Sep-18-09 12:22 PM |
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k+r |
jannyk |
Sep-18-09 12:18 PM |
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The 60 vote myth is alive and well here at DU and remains popular. |
elocs |
Sep-18-09 12:25 PM |
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The motion to proceed to the consideration of a conference report... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Sep-18-09 01:01 PM |
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It's a myth because Democrats do not have 60 votes in the Senate. |
elocs |
Sep-18-09 01:05 PM |
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Today they have 59. |
Davis_X_Machina |
Sep-18-09 01:08 PM |
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Wrong. Absolutely wrong! Please stop spreading that nonsense. |
Better Believe It |
Sep-18-09 01:14 PM |
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Can you imagine the Republicans hinging legislation on persuading a democrat? |
debbierlus |
Sep-18-09 02:28 PM |
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and why should it not be 59 to break the filibuster? |
MurrayDelph |
Sep-18-09 04:37 PM |
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3/5 of the Senate, not 3/5 of Senators. n/t |
Davis_X_Machina |
Sep-18-09 04:58 PM |
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I don't think the number is even 59. What about Byrd? Trust Lieberman? n/t |
elocs |
Sep-18-09 03:12 PM |
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They don't need 60 votes, they need 51 |
debbierlus |
Sep-18-09 02:10 PM |
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When the talk is about filibuster and cloture, then the number is 60. |
elocs |
Sep-18-09 03:10 PM |
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You're dealing with people here... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Sep-18-09 04:53 PM |
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The Democratic leadership in the Senate makes the rules and can change their rules at anytime. |
Better Believe It |
Sep-19-09 09:24 AM |
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50, I believe. |
Jackpine Radical |
Sep-19-09 09:31 AM |
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psst: Don't EVER mention how the REPUKES never needed or SOUGHT "60" votes but rammed ALL their |
TankLV |
Sep-19-09 11:22 AM |
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Health Care reform was already part of the budget |
grantcart |
Sep-18-09 01:11 PM |
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Key parts of the legislation.... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Sep-18-09 04:56 PM |
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What has been truly disgusting is all the concessions made that garnered not a single Republican |
debbierlus |
Sep-18-09 01:11 PM |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Sep-18-09 01:09 PM |
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Bravo!! |
dajoki |
Sep-18-09 01:31 PM |
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k&r..... |
spanone |
Sep-18-09 01:33 PM |
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KR!! (how odd - this thread was at +33 when i rec'd, and it went down to +32 |
inna |
Sep-18-09 03:12 PM |
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Righteous ! |
bvar22 |
Sep-18-09 03:51 PM |
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Kicked and recommended |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-18-09 03:56 PM |
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OK, but you're making one mistake |
anigbrowl |
Sep-18-09 04:06 PM |
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The majority of people want someone to fight for them, the dems would be amazed |
debbierlus |
Sep-18-09 10:43 PM |
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There are even a lot of people here on the DU |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-19-09 10:04 AM |
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I fear we are in a lose-lose |
Ruby the Liberal |
Sep-19-09 02:16 PM |
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Can't agree more |
lenegal |
Sep-18-09 04:39 PM |
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My only regret is that I have but one "Recommend" to give to this thread! |
blue neen |
Sep-18-09 09:43 PM |
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I can't say I am sanguine about the indecorous verb choices (eom) |
I yet value liberty. |
Sep-19-09 01:10 AM |
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I wish there were stronger verbs to be used to express the outrage |
debbierlus |
Sep-19-09 09:08 AM |
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The Republicans just got the Democrats to cut their own throats. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-19-09 09:56 AM |
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No, it isn't the Republicans...its the corporations that own both sides |
debbierlus |
Sep-19-09 02:12 PM |
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AND WHAT ABOUT THE WAR(S)??? |
FormerDittoHead |
Sep-19-09 10:26 AM |
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efffing right |
voteearlyvoteoften |
Sep-19-09 10:52 AM |
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Hell Yeah!!! K&R!!! |
Kermitt Gribble |
Sep-19-09 10:56 AM |
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Thank You.... |
daleanime |
Sep-19-09 12:02 PM |
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So, I wrote my rep (R-Clueless) and gave him a piece of my mind on this. He wrote back |
Ruby the Liberal |
Sep-19-09 12:12 PM |
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They don't even try to hide it anymore...either side. |
debbierlus |
Sep-19-09 02:08 PM |
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kick! nt |
wildbilln864 |
Sep-19-09 02:18 PM |
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Agreed, I'm tired |
tooeyeten |
Sep-19-09 02:20 PM |
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