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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 04:45 AM
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56. "why is the man never asked to prove he didn't rape the woman?"
Seems to be a case of "guilty until proven innocent."

Using the robbery example, no one is required to prove that they didn't rob a house. The onus is on the authorities to prove that the suspect did indeed commit the crime.

Am I missing something?
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  -Rebuttal To False Rape Post: Why Is It That Rape Is Treated As A Matter of Opinion shondradawson  Sep-17-09 10:32 PM   #0 
  - K&R My sister!  katandmoon   Sep-17-09 10:42 PM   #1 
  - Amen!  juajen   Sep-17-09 10:46 PM   #2 
  - Actually, Ma'am, Statistics Do Not Bear All This Out Very Well  The Magistrate   Sep-17-09 10:49 PM   #3 
  - Your statistics only establish that though ninety percent of trials ended in conviction...  shondradawson   Sep-17-09 11:01 PM   #6 
     - What did you write?  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-17-09 11:11 PM   #8 
     - One thing that contributes to the situation at Hofstra  abumbyanyothername   Sep-17-09 11:19 PM   #12 
     - Rape is not about sex -  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-17-09 11:25 PM   #18 
        - But this false charge of rape is  abumbyanyothername   Sep-17-09 11:28 PM   #20 
           - We don't know that -  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-17-09 11:53 PM   #37 
     - You cannot have a conviction without an arrest....  shondradawson   Sep-17-09 11:33 PM   #26 
     - I have a problem straight away with your  abumbyanyothername   Sep-17-09 11:45 PM   #33 
     - I do not have a "worldview" in which rapists are cold calculators. ..  shondradawson   Sep-17-09 11:55 PM   #39 
     - That subject line made no sense -  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-17-09 11:59 PM   #40 
        - I don't believe I have pulled my assertion out of thin air...  shondradawson   Sep-18-09 12:31 AM   #46 
           - No, I've never heard anyone say that  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-18-09 12:39 AM   #47 
              - I have been a should be plural, in the thousands  shondradawson   Sep-18-09 01:33 AM   #50 
                 - Since you read it in 'thousands of books,' or  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-18-09 01:44 AM   #51 
                    - St. John's in one of five Great Books Colleges in this country....  shondradawson   Sep-18-09 03:10 AM   #55 
     - looking up to TM's post that was replied to, 40% (less than half) reported rapes result in an arrest  uppityperson   Sep-18-09 12:18 AM   #43 
        - It's a very easy charge  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-18-09 12:41 AM   #48 
           - And, for some of us, it is a VERY difficult charge to make since it looks bad for us  uppityperson   Sep-18-09 10:13 PM   #63 
     - Actually, Ma'am, Reported Rapes Have Dropped  The Magistrate   Sep-17-09 11:35 PM   #27 
  - The generally-accepted definition of "rape" is:  MercutioATC   Sep-17-09 10:51 PM   #4 
  - I agree with you: nevertheless, my post is meant to explore why  shondradawson   Sep-17-09 11:09 PM   #7 
  - Just as a thought -  Geoff R. Casavant   Sep-17-09 11:20 PM   #14 
  - IMO the problem is that rape is extremely traumatic and accusing the victim of lying...  Odin2005   Sep-17-09 11:52 PM   #36 
     - And this is why I state that the problem is the social stigma  abumbyanyothername   Sep-18-09 12:04 AM   #42 
  - They don't. Average people are horrified by rape.  Gwendolyn   Sep-17-09 11:37 PM   #28 
  - Try this  TxRider   Sep-17-09 11:37 PM   #29 
  - But did she consent to the filming  abumbyanyothername   Sep-17-09 11:20 PM   #13 
     - I have no idea.  LisaL   Sep-17-09 11:23 PM   #17 
     - I think the filming  abumbyanyothername   Sep-17-09 11:30 PM   #21 
        - Do you think that regret after consensual sex  LisaL   Sep-17-09 11:39 PM   #30 
           - Nope.  abumbyanyothername   Sep-17-09 11:48 PM   #34 
              - Well you might have an idea that filming sex makes it rape, but  LisaL   Sep-17-09 11:51 PM   #35 
                 - Are you sure?  abumbyanyothername   Sep-17-09 11:53 PM   #38 
                    - This isn't the first gang rape accusation case I heard of,  LisaL   Sep-18-09 12:03 AM   #41 
     - I'm under the impression she didn't know about the filming  TorchTheWitch   Sep-18-09 05:20 AM   #57 
  - Cathleen Crowell Webb and Gary Dotson in 1985.  no_hypocrisy   Sep-17-09 10:53 PM   #5 
  - I might sympathize with your point  abumbyanyothername   Sep-17-09 11:13 PM   #9 
  - Stupidest post ever. nt  Codeine   Sep-17-09 11:16 PM   #10 
  - My local paper if full of stories of convictions of rape  question everything   Sep-17-09 11:18 PM   #11 
  - The case didn't start up as a case of false rape accusations.  LisaL   Sep-17-09 11:20 PM   #15 
  - Funny how this is a sex crime in which we know the victims' names but  subcomhd   Sep-17-09 11:23 PM   #16 
  - Danmell Ndonye. nt.  NaturalHigh   Sep-17-09 11:28 PM   #19 
  - Her name is Danmell Ndonye n/t  madeline_con   Sep-17-09 11:30 PM   #23 
  - Perhaps the problem, with the media, is naming SUSPECTS  Fading Captain   Sep-17-09 11:33 PM   #25 
  - Rape is a reprehensible crime, and rapists should be locked away from decent society.  NaturalHigh   Sep-17-09 11:30 PM   #22 
  - Are you serious?  Fading Captain   Sep-17-09 11:31 PM   #24 
  - please read the the passage again...pasted here with emphasis  shondradawson   Sep-17-09 11:44 PM   #32 
  - In my friends case, her mental issues were used to push a "lying attention-seeker" defense.  Odin2005   Sep-17-09 11:43 PM   #31 
  - Why is it for some people,  Confusious   Sep-18-09 12:25 AM   #44 
  - I don't know why: I know it is in no way implied in my post....  shondradawson   Sep-18-09 12:45 AM   #49 
  - Because too often the rapist gets off by calling the victim a lying, attention-seeking slut.  Odin2005   Sep-18-09 08:39 AM   #58 
  - I understand where you are coming from, what you are meaning  uppityperson   Sep-18-09 12:25 AM   #45 
  - Our criminal justice system is built upon the premise of innocent until proven guilty  Hugabear   Sep-18-09 01:44 AM   #52 
  - But that is no excuse to let defense attorneys secondarily traumatize rape victims...  Odin2005   Sep-18-09 08:42 AM   #59 
  - At the root of rape is sexism. Until society changes its attitude and strongly condemns  Liquorice   Sep-18-09 01:54 AM   #53 
  - How would you change it?  Hugabear   Sep-18-09 02:06 AM   #54 
     - One suggestion is to eliminate the crime altogether and  abumbyanyothername   Sep-18-09 11:15 AM   #60 
        - A very bad suggestion, imo.  BlooInBloo   Sep-18-09 11:17 AM   #61 
  - "why is the man never asked to prove he didn't rape the woman?"  Cid_B   Sep-18-09 04:45 AM   #56 
  - To put this as succinctly as possible  BoneDaddy   Sep-18-09 12:58 PM   #62 
  - The law  anigbrowl   Sep-18-09 10:22 PM   #64 
  - Just an FYI...a situation I know of...a retarded girl was raped by boys in school  ray of light   Sep-18-09 10:23 PM   #65 

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