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74. McEnroe never, ever threatened a judge? Really?? I find that hard to believe.
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  -Double Standard for Serena Williams (Important reading for all women and people of color) Nikki Stone1  Sep-17-09 06:55 PM   #0 
  - I don't think it's the same thing at all  rockymountaindem   Sep-17-09 06:59 PM   #1 
  - +1. Thank you. I watched both matches. The incidents are not comparable  DevonRex   Sep-17-09 07:16 PM   #9 
  - I wonder if the people complaining of racism and sexism downthread even saw what happened  rockymountaindem   Sep-17-09 07:34 PM   #17 
  - nasty threw a shoe at a ref  Mosby   Sep-17-09 07:57 PM   #22 
  - That's not true at all...he was disqualified...stop making things up  joeybee12   Sep-18-09 02:06 PM   #91 
     - was he fined 10 grand?  Mosby   Sep-18-09 03:22 PM   #100 
        - McEnroe was fined $10,000 and suspended for two months for violations at the US Open.  City Lights   Sep-18-09 06:01 PM   #120 
  - Some aren't even interested where right & wrong lie.  burning rain   Sep-17-09 10:13 PM   #57 
     - LOL as you yourself are also doing.  Solomon   Sep-18-09 01:00 PM   #75 
        - Ah yes, I'm an Asian woman....  burning rain   Sep-18-09 01:43 PM   #83 
  - I watched both matches. Agree with you.  emilyg   Sep-17-09 09:08 PM   #47 
  - It's sloppy reporting like this that makes me question every outlet.  redqueen   Sep-18-09 10:36 AM   #71 
  - i agree  paulsby   Sep-17-09 08:55 PM   #35 
  - I thought she threatened to shove a ball down the judges throat..  TxRider   Sep-17-09 08:58 PM   #40 
  - I think the threat involved a different orifice, but it was something like that  slackmaster   Sep-18-09 03:58 PM   #114 
  - Exactly!  JimGinPA   Sep-18-09 01:07 PM   #78 
  - Serena threatened the lines woman Federer just bitched  krawhitham   Sep-18-09 06:41 PM   #121 
     - Notice how the OP posted and then, apparently, evaporated.  Beer on a stick   Sep-18-09 08:55 PM   #139 
  - As described, those two situations seem very different to me.  aikoaiko   Sep-17-09 07:04 PM   #2 
  - Serena also used the F word. nt  Captain Hilts   Sep-17-09 07:05 PM   #4 
  - Roger said the word "shit." I saw it live and did not hear the F-word.  DevonRex   Sep-17-09 07:17 PM   #10 
  - Thank you, I assumed at least that was the same.  aikoaiko   Sep-17-09 07:43 PM   #20 
  - the call aga. serena was actually a shitty unfair call  pitohui   Sep-17-09 08:16 PM   #27 
  - Even if it was a bad call, quasi-physical threats are not appropriate.  aikoaiko   Sep-17-09 08:55 PM   #36 
  - oh please  paulsby   Sep-17-09 08:56 PM   # 
  - Still not appropriate. Bad calls by sports officials are something a pro needs to deal with.  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 01:01 PM   #76 
  - What, they don't have a right to call a foot fault?  LisaM   Sep-18-09 03:41 PM   #102 
  - Especially big servers--  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 03:48 PM   #109 
     - Yep.  LisaM   Sep-18-09 03:48 PM   #110 
  - I thought her foot clearly touched the line.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-20-09 12:30 AM   #146 
  - yes  paulsby   Sep-17-09 08:56 PM   #37 
  - Her outburst was unacceptable, but men get away with it. Sally Jenkins said something similar here  Captain Hilts   Sep-17-09 07:04 PM   #3 
  - No, they don't and Serena didn't foreit or get kicked out of the match...  joeybee12   Sep-18-09 03:04 PM   #98 
  - And now everyone will nitpick any little difference to justify the complete lack of Federer poutrage  BlooInBloo   Sep-17-09 07:05 PM   #5 
  - You must have a strange definition of "any little difference" (nt)  petronius   Sep-17-09 08:42 PM   #33 
  - Everyone on this board knows your game.  jesus_of_suburbia   Sep-18-09 08:52 PM   #137 
  - And now Bloo will make another empty, vapid, and cowardly post to justify his inability to think.  Forkboy   Sep-18-09 09:08 PM   #140 
  - Thanks  malaise   Sep-17-09 07:06 PM   #6 
  - puhlease  BoneDaddy   Sep-17-09 07:09 PM   #7 
  - I think Serena's conduct was slightly more severe, but the article is correct about ...  dolphindance   Sep-17-09 07:11 PM   #8 
  - mcenroe was booed plenty.  Hannah Bell   Sep-18-09 08:01 PM   #130 
     - Yeah, but he was overseas. Serena got turned on by her own country. Shameful. (n/t)  dolphindance   Sep-18-09 08:34 PM   #134 
        - "plenty" = that wasn't the first or last time.  Hannah Bell   Sep-18-09 08:52 PM   #136 
  - Serena threatened a judge, which neither Federer or McEnroe did.  Xithras   Sep-17-09 07:21 PM   #11 
  - I thnk Serena is a TERRORIST.  BlooInBloo   Sep-17-09 07:29 PM   #15 
  - Dude...that's stupid even by your standards.  Forkboy   Sep-18-09 10:15 AM   #68 
  - lol  Renew Deal   Sep-18-09 01:24 PM   #82 
  - Really? Have you read his posts?  jesus_of_suburbia   Sep-18-09 08:53 PM   #138 
  - Nah just a pretentious little rich girl with a bad temper.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-18-09 09:57 PM   #144 
  - exactly  paulsby   Sep-17-09 08:58 PM   #39 
  - McEnroe never, ever threatened a judge? Really?? I find that hard to believe.  gbate   Sep-18-09 12:53 PM   #74 
     - No, never.  Xithras   Sep-18-09 01:48 PM   #84 
  - Black athletes are held to a different standard  Mosby   Sep-17-09 07:25 PM   #12 
  - Yup  ampad   Sep-17-09 07:30 PM   #16 
  - Really?  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-18-09 02:56 PM   #94 
  - You yourself refer to the Bucharest Buffoon as "Nasty."  Gwendolyn   Sep-17-09 08:07 PM   #24 
  - because that was his nickname - I didn't give it to him  Mosby   Sep-17-09 08:10 PM   #25 
     - Female tennis players are referred to by all kinds of names.  Gwendolyn   Sep-17-09 08:18 PM   #28 
        - I'm sure they are  Mosby   Sep-17-09 08:28 PM   #29 
           - bull  paulsby   Sep-17-09 08:59 PM   #42 
           - To be honest, I laughed a little at the sight of the tiny lineswoman running away.  Gwendolyn   Sep-18-09 08:06 PM   #131 
  - BS yourself  paulsby   Sep-17-09 08:58 PM   #41 
  - no sense?  Aragorn   Sep-17-09 10:14 PM   #59 
  - Bullshit  DatManFromNawlins   Sep-18-09 10:26 AM   #69 
  - YES- I bet if Pete Rose was a *white* guy  Nye Bevan   Sep-18-09 01:59 PM   #89 
  - Tiger gets the shaft every week by the officials. It's cost him countless tournaments.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-20-09 12:32 AM   #147 
  - I think a man would have been treated the same. Joe Wilson was rebuked, for example  Indigent   Sep-17-09 07:28 PM   #13 
  - Boy do you have a lot  femrap   Sep-17-09 07:34 PM   #18 
  - Women aren't allowed to  femrap   Sep-17-09 07:29 PM   #14 
  - rubbish  paulsby   Sep-17-09 09:01 PM   #43 
  - Did you ever see mcenroe  femrap   Sep-17-09 10:23 PM   #60 
     - yes  paulsby   Sep-18-09 12:47 PM   #73 
     - Yes, and Billie Jean King, and Virginia Wade, and all the Virginia Slims tour pioneers.  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 01:09 PM   #79 
        - wrong, wrong and wrong...if you're such a big tennis fan you would know that Serena  joeybee12   Sep-18-09 02:45 PM   #93 
           - She SHOULD have been forfieted. I know what happened, I watched it.  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 03:47 PM   #106 
  - You may want to look up Billie Jean King; pioneer of women's tennis; who paved the way for  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 01:06 PM   #77 
     - known for her temper? i don't think so. pioneer? not exActly.  Hannah Bell   Sep-18-09 08:12 PM   #132 
  - Either Racism or Sexism or both, she said Freakin' not F-Word..  HipChick   Sep-17-09 07:38 PM   #19 
  - Sorry. She said Fuck.  Lochloosa   Sep-17-09 07:54 PM   #21 
     - who fucking cares  Mosby   Sep-17-09 08:00 PM   #23 
        - So what?  MellowDem   Sep-17-09 09:48 PM   #51 
           - I'm comparing behavior not stats  Mosby   Sep-17-09 10:13 PM   #58 
  - yeah i saw that too...nothing aga. federer but WHEN will women be equal?  pitohui   Sep-17-09 08:14 PM   #26 
  - rubbish  paulsby   Sep-17-09 09:02 PM   #45 
  - Women will be equal with men in tennis when they play 5-set matches in GS tournaments.  City Lights   Sep-18-09 06:55 PM   #123 
  - Good grief, they were totally different. n/t  Zywiec   Sep-17-09 08:31 PM   #30 
  - My take  johnnie   Sep-17-09 08:37 PM   #31 
  - um, Federer is considered the best player in the game, ever.  kwassa   Sep-17-09 08:56 PM   #38 
     - Nope  johnnie   Sep-17-09 09:07 PM   #46 
        - You are very wrong.  kwassa   Sep-17-09 10:00 PM   #54 
           - I just asked a Friend of mine if she knew each name  johnnie   Sep-17-09 10:46 PM   #62 
              - I see. One other data point is convincing argument.  kwassa   Sep-18-09 07:48 AM   #63 
              - Yeah  johnnie   Sep-18-09 10:47 AM   #72 
                 - If you like, you can make it 6 - 0 . . .  Petrushka   Sep-18-09 03:41 PM   #103 
                    - No, you are wrong too  johnnie   Sep-18-09 06:56 PM   #124 
                       - In that case . . .  Petrushka   Sep-18-09 08:48 PM   #135 
              - That just means your friend is ignorant too.  Raineyb   Sep-18-09 05:07 PM   #118 
                 - Of copurse we are ignorant  johnnie   Sep-18-09 06:50 PM   #122 
                    - Federer is a superstar.  kwassa   Sep-18-09 08:31 PM   #133 
                       - I just asked my sister too  johnnie   Sep-18-09 09:40 PM   #141 
                          - What's funny is that you think you get to decide who a superstar is based on who you have heard of.  Threedifferentones   Sep-22-09 05:38 PM   #149 
  - wrong analysis I believe  ncteechur   Sep-17-09 08:42 PM   #32 
  - A double standard would assume the exact same circumstances  Canuckistanian   Sep-17-09 08:47 PM   #34 
  - Did Federer wave his racket like a club and threaten to  geek tragedy   Sep-17-09 09:01 PM   #44 
  - Tiger Woods says, "Fuck!" on camera at least 5 or 6 times every  Holly_Hobby   Sep-17-09 09:30 PM   #48 
  - Shhhhhh!!!  MellowDem   Sep-17-09 09:50 PM   #52 
  - "No outrage from golf world"? BULL! FUCKING! SHIT!  bullwinkle428   Sep-18-09 09:01 AM   #66 
  - HA. My pop won't watch a tournament if he's playing. "Ruined the game with his FIST PUMP". n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-18-09 03:00 PM   #97 
  - Um  Holly_Hobby   Sep-18-09 07:26 PM   #127 
  - I never heard him threaten to shove a club down someones throat.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-20-09 12:34 AM   #148 
  - I think the outrage a bit faux.  kwassa   Sep-17-09 09:36 PM   #49 
  - Interesting point. If there exists an extra layer of expectations of suppressed "ladylike" behavior  omega minimo   Sep-17-09 09:58 PM   #53 
     - :thumbsup: perceptive mind meet crux  brindis_desala   Sep-18-09 08:17 AM   #64 
        - Painful to imagine the power in that toned instrument  omega minimo   Sep-18-09 04:04 PM   #115 
  - If this is double standard...  MellowDem   Sep-17-09 09:42 PM   #50 
  - Woo-hoo! More division! More! More! More!  Seeking Serenity   Sep-17-09 10:03 PM   #55 
  - please  Aragorn   Sep-17-09 10:05 PM   #56 
  - There is also a big difference between the chair judge and a line judge  MiniMe   Sep-17-09 10:45 PM   #61 
  - federer said 'shit'. he didn't threaten to 'shove the ball down his fucking throat'.  spanone   Sep-18-09 08:18 AM   #65 
  - I thought Serena deserved punishment...  Chemical Bill   Sep-18-09 10:01 AM   #67 
  - EXACTLY. I've been a competitive player in my youth and was coming  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 01:15 PM   #80 
  - Serena was very threatening towards that official  LisaM   Sep-18-09 03:44 PM   #104 
  - It wasn't about the expletives so much as the actual threat, from what I understand.  redqueen   Sep-18-09 10:29 AM   #70 
  - Threatening physical harm to an official will get you thrown out of a game in almost any sport  Renew Deal   Sep-18-09 01:23 PM   #81 
  - Federer didn't threaten an official.  Iggo   Sep-18-09 01:49 PM   #85 
  - Let's see.......which one sounds worse  thelordofhell   Sep-18-09 01:49 PM   #86 
  - "I swear to God Im fucking taking this ball and shoving it down your fucking throat"  Nye Bevan   Sep-18-09 01:54 PM   #87 
  - "I'm gonna take this fucking ball and shove it down your fucking throat."  LostInAnomie   Sep-18-09 01:58 PM   #88 
  - What a load of crap...if you can't see the difference between someon  joeybee12   Sep-18-09 02:05 PM   #90 
  - Threads like this demonstrate why the Unrec feature was such a good idea  Nye Bevan   Sep-18-09 02:38 PM   #92 
  - What bothers me is that these "fans" know nothing about tennis....  joeybee12   Sep-18-09 03:00 PM   #95 
  - NOTHING NEW UNDER THE TENNIS SUN  Mosby   Sep-18-09 03:29 PM   #101 
     - I think we can all agree that McEnroe was being hypocritical  LisaM   Sep-18-09 03:46 PM   #105 
     - He adds nothing in his commentary...nothing at all...  joeybee12   Sep-18-09 03:48 PM   #108 
        - I agree! n/t  LisaM   Sep-18-09 03:49 PM   #111 
     - McEnroe should know...he was defaulted out of a match he was winning  joeybee12   Sep-18-09 03:47 PM   #107 
  - What bothers me is that these "fans" know nothing about tennis....  joeybee12   Sep-18-09 03:00 PM   #96 
  - All I know is I watched a lot of McEnroe and Connors in the day  TheKentuckian   Sep-18-09 03:10 PM   #99 
  - Dunno about that double-standard...  redqueen   Sep-18-09 04:06 PM   #116 
  - this article is dreck. It is a shame that the Nation printed it.  hfojvt   Sep-18-09 03:54 PM   #112 
  - NO Need tp explain the double standard..  butterfly77   Sep-18-09 03:56 PM   #113 
  - No surprise there.  Raineyb   Sep-18-09 05:02 PM   #117 
  - Some feel the need to protect their own.  Sultana   Sep-18-09 05:30 PM   #119 
  - To everyone here talking about rules and consequences confined to the actual sport.  darkstar3   Sep-18-09 07:13 PM   #125 
  - Serena acted like a jerk--but EXACTLY what you said. This is the media's current shiny  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 07:20 PM   #126 
  - It's hard to compare to 1980 as the coverage of all things sports has skyrocketed since then.  Forkboy   Sep-18-09 07:45 PM   #128 
     - That's a thinker...  darkstar3   Sep-18-09 09:48 PM   #142 
  - Well, here was my own personal reaction to the news.  johnaries   Sep-18-09 08:00 PM   #129 
  - maybe you shouldn't call them colored people. nt  subcomhd   Sep-18-09 09:56 PM   #143 
  - The double standard here is non-existent.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-18-09 10:00 PM   #145 
 

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