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Thu Sep-17-09 07:17 PM
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| 10. Roger said the word "shit." I saw it live and did not hear the F-word. |
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Serena is the one who used the F-word.
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| -Double Standard for Serena Williams (Important reading for all women and people of color) |
Nikki Stone1 |
Sep-17-09 06:55 PM |
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I don't think it's the same thing at all |
rockymountaindem |
Sep-17-09 06:59 PM |
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+1. Thank you. I watched both matches. The incidents are not comparable |
DevonRex |
Sep-17-09 07:16 PM |
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I wonder if the people complaining of racism and sexism downthread even saw what happened |
rockymountaindem |
Sep-17-09 07:34 PM |
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nasty threw a shoe at a ref |
Mosby |
Sep-17-09 07:57 PM |
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That's not true at all...he was disqualified...stop making things up |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-09 02:06 PM |
#91 |
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was he fined 10 grand? |
Mosby |
Sep-18-09 03:22 PM |
#100 |
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McEnroe was fined $10,000 and suspended for two months for violations at the US Open. |
City Lights |
Sep-18-09 06:01 PM |
#120 |
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Some aren't even interested where right & wrong lie. |
burning rain |
Sep-17-09 10:13 PM |
#57 |
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LOL as you yourself are also doing. |
Solomon |
Sep-18-09 01:00 PM |
#75 |
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Ah yes, I'm an Asian woman.... |
burning rain |
Sep-18-09 01:43 PM |
#83 |
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I watched both matches. Agree with you. |
emilyg |
Sep-17-09 09:08 PM |
#47 |
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It's sloppy reporting like this that makes me question every outlet. |
redqueen |
Sep-18-09 10:36 AM |
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i agree |
paulsby |
Sep-17-09 08:55 PM |
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I thought she threatened to shove a ball down the judges throat.. |
TxRider |
Sep-17-09 08:58 PM |
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I think the threat involved a different orifice, but it was something like that |
slackmaster |
Sep-18-09 03:58 PM |
#114 |
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Exactly! |
JimGinPA |
Sep-18-09 01:07 PM |
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Serena threatened the lines woman Federer just bitched |
krawhitham |
Sep-18-09 06:41 PM |
#121 |
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Notice how the OP posted and then, apparently, evaporated. |
Beer on a stick |
Sep-18-09 08:55 PM |
#139 |
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As described, those two situations seem very different to me. |
aikoaiko |
Sep-17-09 07:04 PM |
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Serena also used the F word. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Sep-17-09 07:05 PM |
#4 |
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Roger said the word "shit." I saw it live and did not hear the F-word. |
DevonRex |
Sep-17-09 07:17 PM |
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Thank you, I assumed at least that was the same. |
aikoaiko |
Sep-17-09 07:43 PM |
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the call aga. serena was actually a shitty unfair call |
pitohui |
Sep-17-09 08:16 PM |
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Even if it was a bad call, quasi-physical threats are not appropriate. |
aikoaiko |
Sep-17-09 08:55 PM |
#36 |
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oh please |
paulsby |
Sep-17-09 08:56 PM |
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Still not appropriate. Bad calls by sports officials are something a pro needs to deal with. |
blondeatlast |
Sep-18-09 01:01 PM |
#76 |
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What, they don't have a right to call a foot fault? |
LisaM |
Sep-18-09 03:41 PM |
#102 |
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Especially big servers-- |
blondeatlast |
Sep-18-09 03:48 PM |
#109 |
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Yep. |
LisaM |
Sep-18-09 03:48 PM |
#110 |
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I thought her foot clearly touched the line. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-20-09 12:30 AM |
#146 |
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yes |
paulsby |
Sep-17-09 08:56 PM |
#37 |
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Her outburst was unacceptable, but men get away with it. Sally Jenkins said something similar here |
Captain Hilts |
Sep-17-09 07:04 PM |
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No, they don't and Serena didn't foreit or get kicked out of the match... |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-09 03:04 PM |
#98 |
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And now everyone will nitpick any little difference to justify the complete lack of Federer poutrage |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-17-09 07:05 PM |
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You must have a strange definition of "any little difference" (nt) |
petronius |
Sep-17-09 08:42 PM |
#33 |
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Everyone on this board knows your game. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Sep-18-09 08:52 PM |
#137 |
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And now Bloo will make another empty, vapid, and cowardly post to justify his inability to think. |
Forkboy |
Sep-18-09 09:08 PM |
#140 |
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Thanks |
malaise |
Sep-17-09 07:06 PM |
#6 |
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puhlease |
BoneDaddy |
Sep-17-09 07:09 PM |
#7 |
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I think Serena's conduct was slightly more severe, but the article is correct about ... |
dolphindance |
Sep-17-09 07:11 PM |
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mcenroe was booed plenty. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-18-09 08:01 PM |
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Yeah, but he was overseas. Serena got turned on by her own country. Shameful. (n/t) |
dolphindance |
Sep-18-09 08:34 PM |
#134 |
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"plenty" = that wasn't the first or last time. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-18-09 08:52 PM |
#136 |
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Serena threatened a judge, which neither Federer or McEnroe did. |
Xithras |
Sep-17-09 07:21 PM |
#11 |
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I thnk Serena is a TERRORIST. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-17-09 07:29 PM |
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Dude...that's stupid even by your standards. |
Forkboy |
Sep-18-09 10:15 AM |
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lol |
Renew Deal |
Sep-18-09 01:24 PM |
#82 |
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Really? Have you read his posts? |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Sep-18-09 08:53 PM |
#138 |
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Nah just a pretentious little rich girl with a bad temper. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-18-09 09:57 PM |
#144 |
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exactly |
paulsby |
Sep-17-09 08:58 PM |
#39 |
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McEnroe never, ever threatened a judge? Really?? I find that hard to believe. |
gbate |
Sep-18-09 12:53 PM |
#74 |
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No, never. |
Xithras |
Sep-18-09 01:48 PM |
#84 |
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Black athletes are held to a different standard |
Mosby |
Sep-17-09 07:25 PM |
#12 |
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Yup |
ampad |
Sep-17-09 07:30 PM |
#16 |
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Really? |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-18-09 02:56 PM |
#94 |
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You yourself refer to the Bucharest Buffoon as "Nasty." |
Gwendolyn |
Sep-17-09 08:07 PM |
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because that was his nickname - I didn't give it to him |
Mosby |
Sep-17-09 08:10 PM |
#25 |
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Female tennis players are referred to by all kinds of names. |
Gwendolyn |
Sep-17-09 08:18 PM |
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I'm sure they are |
Mosby |
Sep-17-09 08:28 PM |
#29 |
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bull |
paulsby |
Sep-17-09 08:59 PM |
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To be honest, I laughed a little at the sight of the tiny lineswoman running away. |
Gwendolyn |
Sep-18-09 08:06 PM |
#131 |
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BS yourself |
paulsby |
Sep-17-09 08:58 PM |
#41 |
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no sense? |
Aragorn |
Sep-17-09 10:14 PM |
#59 |
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Bullshit |
DatManFromNawlins |
Sep-18-09 10:26 AM |
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YES- I bet if Pete Rose was a *white* guy |
Nye Bevan |
Sep-18-09 01:59 PM |
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Tiger gets the shaft every week by the officials. It's cost him countless tournaments. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-20-09 12:32 AM |
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I think a man would have been treated the same. Joe Wilson was rebuked, for example |
Indigent |
Sep-17-09 07:28 PM |
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Boy do you have a lot |
femrap |
Sep-17-09 07:34 PM |
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Women aren't allowed to |
femrap |
Sep-17-09 07:29 PM |
#14 |
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rubbish |
paulsby |
Sep-17-09 09:01 PM |
#43 |
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Did you ever see mcenroe |
femrap |
Sep-17-09 10:23 PM |
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yes |
paulsby |
Sep-18-09 12:47 PM |
#73 |
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Yes, and Billie Jean King, and Virginia Wade, and all the Virginia Slims tour pioneers. |
blondeatlast |
Sep-18-09 01:09 PM |
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wrong, wrong and wrong...if you're such a big tennis fan you would know that Serena |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-09 02:45 PM |
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She SHOULD have been forfieted. I know what happened, I watched it. |
blondeatlast |
Sep-18-09 03:47 PM |
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You may want to look up Billie Jean King; pioneer of women's tennis; who paved the way for |
blondeatlast |
Sep-18-09 01:06 PM |
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known for her temper? i don't think so. pioneer? not exActly. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-18-09 08:12 PM |
#132 |
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Either Racism or Sexism or both, she said Freakin' not F-Word.. |
HipChick |
Sep-17-09 07:38 PM |
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Sorry. She said Fuck. |
Lochloosa |
Sep-17-09 07:54 PM |
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who fucking cares |
Mosby |
Sep-17-09 08:00 PM |
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So what? |
MellowDem |
Sep-17-09 09:48 PM |
#51 |
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I'm comparing behavior not stats |
Mosby |
Sep-17-09 10:13 PM |
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yeah i saw that too...nothing aga. federer but WHEN will women be equal? |
pitohui |
Sep-17-09 08:14 PM |
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rubbish |
paulsby |
Sep-17-09 09:02 PM |
#45 |
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Women will be equal with men in tennis when they play 5-set matches in GS tournaments. |
City Lights |
Sep-18-09 06:55 PM |
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Good grief, they were totally different. n/t |
Zywiec |
Sep-17-09 08:31 PM |
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My take |
johnnie |
Sep-17-09 08:37 PM |
#31 |
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um, Federer is considered the best player in the game, ever. |
kwassa |
Sep-17-09 08:56 PM |
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Nope |
johnnie |
Sep-17-09 09:07 PM |
#46 |
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You are very wrong. |
kwassa |
Sep-17-09 10:00 PM |
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I just asked a Friend of mine if she knew each name |
johnnie |
Sep-17-09 10:46 PM |
#62 |
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I see. One other data point is convincing argument. |
kwassa |
Sep-18-09 07:48 AM |
#63 |
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Yeah |
johnnie |
Sep-18-09 10:47 AM |
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If you like, you can make it 6 - 0 . . . |
Petrushka |
Sep-18-09 03:41 PM |
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No, you are wrong too |
johnnie |
Sep-18-09 06:56 PM |
#124 |
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In that case . . . |
Petrushka |
Sep-18-09 08:48 PM |
#135 |
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That just means your friend is ignorant too. |
Raineyb |
Sep-18-09 05:07 PM |
#118 |
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Of copurse we are ignorant |
johnnie |
Sep-18-09 06:50 PM |
#122 |
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Federer is a superstar. |
kwassa |
Sep-18-09 08:31 PM |
#133 |
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I just asked my sister too |
johnnie |
Sep-18-09 09:40 PM |
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What's funny is that you think you get to decide who a superstar is based on who you have heard of. |
Threedifferentones |
Sep-22-09 05:38 PM |
#149 |
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wrong analysis I believe |
ncteechur |
Sep-17-09 08:42 PM |
#32 |
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A double standard would assume the exact same circumstances |
Canuckistanian |
Sep-17-09 08:47 PM |
#34 |
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Did Federer wave his racket like a club and threaten to |
geek tragedy |
Sep-17-09 09:01 PM |
#44 |
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Tiger Woods says, "Fuck!" on camera at least 5 or 6 times every |
Holly_Hobby |
Sep-17-09 09:30 PM |
#48 |
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Shhhhhh!!! |
MellowDem |
Sep-17-09 09:50 PM |
#52 |
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"No outrage from golf world"? BULL! FUCKING! SHIT! |
bullwinkle428 |
Sep-18-09 09:01 AM |
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HA. My pop won't watch a tournament if he's playing. "Ruined the game with his FIST PUMP". n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-18-09 03:00 PM |
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Um |
Holly_Hobby |
Sep-18-09 07:26 PM |
#127 |
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I never heard him threaten to shove a club down someones throat. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-20-09 12:34 AM |
#148 |
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I think the outrage a bit faux. |
kwassa |
Sep-17-09 09:36 PM |
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Interesting point. If there exists an extra layer of expectations of suppressed "ladylike" behavior |
omega minimo |
Sep-17-09 09:58 PM |
#53 |
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:thumbsup: perceptive mind meet crux |
brindis_desala |
Sep-18-09 08:17 AM |
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Painful to imagine the power in that toned instrument |
omega minimo |
Sep-18-09 04:04 PM |
#115 |
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If this is double standard... |
MellowDem |
Sep-17-09 09:42 PM |
#50 |
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Woo-hoo! More division! More! More! More! |
Seeking Serenity |
Sep-17-09 10:03 PM |
#55 |
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please |
Aragorn |
Sep-17-09 10:05 PM |
#56 |
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There is also a big difference between the chair judge and a line judge |
MiniMe |
Sep-17-09 10:45 PM |
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federer said 'shit'. he didn't threaten to 'shove the ball down his fucking throat'. |
spanone |
Sep-18-09 08:18 AM |
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I thought Serena deserved punishment... |
Chemical Bill |
Sep-18-09 10:01 AM |
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EXACTLY. I've been a competitive player in my youth and was coming |
blondeatlast |
Sep-18-09 01:15 PM |
#80 |
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Serena was very threatening towards that official |
LisaM |
Sep-18-09 03:44 PM |
#104 |
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It wasn't about the expletives so much as the actual threat, from what I understand. |
redqueen |
Sep-18-09 10:29 AM |
#70 |
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Threatening physical harm to an official will get you thrown out of a game in almost any sport |
Renew Deal |
Sep-18-09 01:23 PM |
#81 |
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Federer didn't threaten an official. |
Iggo |
Sep-18-09 01:49 PM |
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Let's see.......which one sounds worse |
thelordofhell |
Sep-18-09 01:49 PM |
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"I swear to God I’m fucking taking this ball and shoving it down your fucking throat" |
Nye Bevan |
Sep-18-09 01:54 PM |
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"I'm gonna take this fucking ball and shove it down your fucking throat." |
LostInAnomie |
Sep-18-09 01:58 PM |
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What a load of crap...if you can't see the difference between someon |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-09 02:05 PM |
#90 |
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Threads like this demonstrate why the Unrec feature was such a good idea |
Nye Bevan |
Sep-18-09 02:38 PM |
#92 |
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What bothers me is that these "fans" know nothing about tennis.... |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-09 03:00 PM |
#95 |
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NOTHING NEW UNDER THE TENNIS SUN |
Mosby |
Sep-18-09 03:29 PM |
#101 |
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I think we can all agree that McEnroe was being hypocritical |
LisaM |
Sep-18-09 03:46 PM |
#105 |
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He adds nothing in his commentary...nothing at all... |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-09 03:48 PM |
#108 |
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I agree! n/t |
LisaM |
Sep-18-09 03:49 PM |
#111 |
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McEnroe should know...he was defaulted out of a match he was winning |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-09 03:47 PM |
#107 |
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What bothers me is that these "fans" know nothing about tennis.... |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-09 03:00 PM |
#96 |
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All I know is I watched a lot of McEnroe and Connors in the day |
TheKentuckian |
Sep-18-09 03:10 PM |
#99 |
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Dunno about that double-standard... |
redqueen |
Sep-18-09 04:06 PM |
#116 |
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this article is dreck. It is a shame that the Nation printed it. |
hfojvt |
Sep-18-09 03:54 PM |
#112 |
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NO Need tp explain the double standard.. |
butterfly77 |
Sep-18-09 03:56 PM |
#113 |
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No surprise there. |
Raineyb |
Sep-18-09 05:02 PM |
#117 |
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Some feel the need to protect their own. |
Sultana |
Sep-18-09 05:30 PM |
#119 |
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To everyone here talking about rules and consequences confined to the actual sport. |
darkstar3 |
Sep-18-09 07:13 PM |
#125 |
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Serena acted like a jerk--but EXACTLY what you said. This is the media's current shiny |
blondeatlast |
Sep-18-09 07:20 PM |
#126 |
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It's hard to compare to 1980 as the coverage of all things sports has skyrocketed since then. |
Forkboy |
Sep-18-09 07:45 PM |
#128 |
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That's a thinker... |
darkstar3 |
Sep-18-09 09:48 PM |
#142 |
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Well, here was my own personal reaction to the news. |
johnaries |
Sep-18-09 08:00 PM |
#129 |
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maybe you shouldn't call them colored people. nt |
subcomhd |
Sep-18-09 09:56 PM |
#143 |
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The double standard here is non-existent. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-18-09 10:00 PM |
#145 |
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