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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #82
86. The death penalty should never, ever be used
except in cases like McVeigh or those like the subject of the original post. The death penalty should never be used without conclusive scientific evidence. Now that science has surpassed "eye witness" testimony, the likelihood of the death penalty's misuse is minimal. Before any accused is put to death, a complete review of all evidence is just. If that evidence is not supported by science, the death penalty should be reduced to life.

Killing of innocents is astronomically unlikely. Killing or imprisoning an innocent person is never, ever okay.

I just hope you are never a victim. My money says you will be singing a very different song.

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  -Death penalty opponents: I'd like your opinion begin_within  Sep-16-09 09:54 AM   #0 
  - Life, no parole.  HopeHoops   Sep-16-09 09:57 AM   #1 
  - +1  redqueen   Sep-16-09 10:04 AM   #5 
  - Here, too.  MNDemNY   Sep-16-09 10:10 AM   #8 
  - Indeed. nt  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 09:15 AM   #91 
  - I'm not against the DP because I feel sorry for the condemned  Taverner   Sep-16-09 09:57 AM   #2 
  - +1  treestar   Sep-16-09 10:12 AM   #12 
  - Exactly - I couldn't give a rats ass to the condemned  Taverner   Sep-16-09 10:19 AM   #13 
  - + another 1. nt.  tosh   Sep-16-09 10:29 AM   #15 
  - that's my problem too, basically  pipi_k   Sep-16-09 10:47 AM   #18 
  - Well said. Executing someone will not bring the victims back to life  question everything   Sep-16-09 11:57 PM   #55 
  - +100000  anonymous171   Sep-17-09 06:08 PM   #84 
  - life in prison without any opportunity for parole  Fresh_Start   Sep-16-09 09:57 AM   #3 
  - Remove him from society permanently  wryter2000   Sep-16-09 10:00 AM   #4 
  - I think that makes you a DP refusenik :p  EOTE   Sep-16-09 10:49 AM   #20 
  - Life with no parole.  cali   Sep-16-09 10:06 AM   #6 
  - "closure" from state-sponsored revenge killing is a myth  Resuscitated Ethics   Sep-16-09 10:08 AM   #7 
  - Life without parole  Brewman_Jax   Sep-16-09 10:10 AM   #9 
  - I have no problems with Death Penalty in some situations but since it is divisive  Statistical   Sep-16-09 10:11 AM   #10 
  - There are two questions here...  TreasonousBastard   Sep-16-09 10:12 AM   #11 
  - Thanks. I would ask you,  begin_within   Sep-16-09 10:59 AM   #23 
     - Of course it's not "fair" but fairness isn't the issue...  TreasonousBastard   Sep-16-09 11:28 AM   #27 
     - It is not fair, but killing him won't bring anyone back....  Bettie   Sep-17-09 08:51 AM   #69 
  - The death penalty would do nothing but add one more murder  judy   Sep-16-09 10:21 AM   #14 
  - my question for you is "what do you hope to achieve...?"  mike_c   Sep-16-09 10:38 AM   #16 
  - Thanks for your reply. I would ask you,  begin_within   Sep-16-09 10:56 AM   #21 
     - yes I do think that's "fair...."  mike_c   Sep-16-09 11:25 AM   #26 
     - "Rehabilitating" a murderer/rapist and setting him free would not be just at all.  conturnedpro09   Sep-16-09 11:54 PM   #54 
        - Revenge is not the same thing as justice.  redqueen   Sep-17-09 09:44 AM   #74 
        - I think maybe you took a wrong turn on you way to FR, my friend....  mike_c   Sep-17-09 10:07 AM   #75 
     - 12 people were just as sure that Cameron Todd Willingham was guilty  MajorChode   Sep-16-09 10:55 PM   #45 
  - Life, no parole. The heinousness of the crime is immaterial.  TexasObserver   Sep-16-09 10:43 AM   #17 
  - if one innocent is murdered by the state then we are equal to this man.  seabeyond   Sep-16-09 10:49 AM   #19 
  - What's with you people?  liquid diamond   Sep-16-09 10:10 PM   #36 
     - there you go on justifying murder. if that isnt a convoluted way of declaring  seabeyond   Sep-16-09 10:21 PM   #37 
     - I'm sorry, has an innocent person been executed by the state?  liquid diamond   Sep-16-09 10:24 PM   #38 
        - Yes to both questions.  MajorChode   Sep-16-09 11:25 PM   #48 
           - It sounds like the results are inconclusive and still being  liquid diamond   Sep-17-09 12:55 AM   #57 
              - You're kidding, right?  MajorChode   Sep-17-09 03:16 AM   #58 
     - You're assuming that the state can never do anything unlawful  MajorChode   Sep-16-09 11:29 PM   #51 
     - I don't believe there's such a thing as a "lawful" taking of a life.  wickerwoman   Sep-17-09 03:41 AM   #61 
     - i cannot believe a person can justify murdering an innocent person.  seabeyond   Sep-17-09 08:37 AM   #66 
     - You sound like Scalia.  Lyric   Sep-17-09 09:12 AM   #71 
     - That's an emotional tactic that many share with the ANTI-CHOICE crowd...  mitchum   Sep-17-09 02:40 PM   #81 
  - If you're not opposed to the DP in all cases...  SidDithers   Sep-16-09 10:57 AM   #22 
  - Fine, but,  begin_within   Sep-16-09 11:16 AM   #24 
  - Fair to whom?...  SidDithers   Sep-16-09 11:36 AM   #29 
  - You might rethink the part about protecting society.  Usrename   Sep-16-09 07:00 PM   #31 
  - I suspect I know what Jesus' answer would be.  LynnTheDem   Sep-16-09 11:29 PM   #50 
  - It's a lot more fair than a quick end.  wickerwoman   Sep-17-09 03:46 AM   #62 
  - There is no "fair" in life. That's why we have juctice. nt  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 09:23 AM   #94 
  - Well said, very well said. nt  blondeatlast   Sep-18-09 09:22 AM   #93 
  - Life without parole. n/t  quiller4   Sep-16-09 11:22 AM   #25 
  - Life, no parole. nt  SalviaBlue   Sep-16-09 11:30 AM   #28 
  - Life. No parole  La Lioness Priyanka   Sep-16-09 11:39 AM   #30 
  - I'm not liberal enough for life in prison for a crime like this  texastoast   Sep-16-09 09:59 PM   #32 
  - And I'm not authoritarian enough to endorse The State killing its citizens....  BlooInBloo   Sep-17-09 03:26 AM   #59 
     - Just how many Timothy McVeighs would you feed?  texastoast   Sep-17-09 08:35 AM   #65 
        - To avoid becoming a McVeigh, killing innocent Americans myself? I'll feed all of them.  BlooInBloo   Sep-17-09 12:36 PM   #76 
           - And you would tell the mothers of the murdered children . . .? n/t  texastoast   Sep-17-09 01:53 PM   #78 
              - That the person who did it will never do it again - about all you can say...  BlooInBloo   Sep-17-09 06:03 PM   #82 
                 - The death penalty should never, ever be used  texastoast   Sep-17-09 09:07 PM   #86 
                    - Here's the flaws in your reasoning  MajorChode   Sep-18-09 02:59 AM   #87 
                       - Walk the walk then talk to me  texastoast   Sep-18-09 09:11 AM   #89 
                          - Too bad I didn't see this before you were done with it  DisgustipatedinCA   Sep-18-09 09:29 AM   #95 
  - Putting the religious pro-life argument aside for just a second  GodlyDemocrat   Sep-16-09 10:02 PM   #33 
  - I would leave a choice of DP or life without parole to the family  TxRider   Sep-16-09 10:03 PM   #34 
  - who is the state to take a life?  spanone   Sep-16-09 10:04 PM   #35 
  - An appropriate punishment would be to let the victim's relative rape and stab the guy to death  Hippo_Tron   Sep-16-09 10:29 PM   #39 
  - I'd like your opinion on Alessandro Serenelli.  rug   Sep-16-09 10:36 PM   #40 
  - I'd better stay out of this thread...  Odin2005   Sep-16-09 10:38 PM   #41 
  - There is no "appropriate" penalty  quaker bill   Sep-16-09 10:44 PM   #42 
  - I do not believe in the death penalty.  Silver Swan   Sep-16-09 10:44 PM   #43 
  - Life no parole. Ever.  The Midway Rebel   Sep-16-09 10:54 PM   #44 
  - Not the death penalty. (n/t)  Iggo   Sep-16-09 11:12 PM   #46 
  - Life, no parole.  laundry_queen   Sep-16-09 11:22 PM   #47 
  - I oppose the death penalty.  LynnTheDem   Sep-16-09 11:25 PM   #49 
  - Life with absolutely  Libertas1776   Sep-16-09 11:38 PM   #52 
  - The appropriate penalty is punishment for the remainder of his days.  flvegan   Sep-16-09 11:53 PM   #53 
  - To kill someone as punishment for killing someone just doesn't make sense to me. nt  Skip Intro   Sep-17-09 12:07 AM   #56 
  - Taking that man's life won't bring any kind of closure to those girl's  SeattleGirl   Sep-17-09 03:34 AM   #60 
  - Here's another "real event":  wickerwoman   Sep-17-09 03:55 AM   #63 
  - Life imprisonment with no hope of parole seems pointless to me  Apollo11   Sep-17-09 04:21 AM   #64 
  - Oops. Sorry.  Iggo   Sep-17-09 08:56 AM   #70 
  - Death  BoneDaddy   Sep-17-09 08:40 AM   #67 
  - It's about dignity  Bragi   Sep-17-09 08:43 AM   #68 
  - My opinion (for whatever it is worth)  timtom   Sep-17-09 09:40 AM   #72 
  - A ban against the Death Penalty save ME from MY baser instincts/desires!!!  TankLV   Sep-17-09 09:41 AM   #73 
  - The death penalty is always wrong  Robyn66   Sep-17-09 01:10 PM   #77 
  - Warden Clinton Duffy  robdogbucky   Sep-17-09 02:17 PM   #79 
  - Life in prison with no parole  slackmaster   Sep-17-09 02:21 PM   #80 
  - Life in Solitary without Parole  Burma Jones   Sep-17-09 06:07 PM   #83 
  - If my child or loved one was murdered I would want to see the killer dead  Geek_Girl   Sep-17-09 06:10 PM   #85 
  - Holy shit.  armyowalgreens   Sep-18-09 03:01 AM   #88 
  - Life without parole, for all the usual reasons.  Brickbat   Sep-18-09 09:13 AM   #90 
  - A moral absolute is not degraded by individual cases  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-18-09 09:20 AM   #92 
  - I was opposed to the death penalty until Polly Klass. That monster needs to go. n/t  ourbluenation   Sep-18-09 10:06 AM   #96 

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