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145. So, he refused to join in the marshmallow throw? How awful!!
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  -Kucinich Voted AGAINST Wilson Reprimand. berni_mccoy  Sep-15-09 06:13 PM   #0 
  - Kucinich has an interesting past nt  ecstatic   Sep-15-09 06:15 PM   #1 
  - Do tell.  mmonk   Sep-16-09 06:58 AM   #179 
  - Thinking of the future  Turbineguy   Sep-15-09 06:15 PM   #2 
  - So Kucinich supports interrupting addresses to Congress with heckling,  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:21 PM   # 
     - Representative Kucinich support full censure. Full censure.  Raster   Sep-15-09 06:25 PM   #11 
     - Oh, so he was just voting against a good bill because he wanted a better one.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:30 PM   #16 
     - .  Barack_America   Sep-15-09 07:36 PM   #126 
     - Link?  ecstatic   Sep-15-09 06:30 PM   #17 
     - Self Delete. Posted wrong spot.  Junkdrawer   Sep-15-09 06:49 PM   #54 
     - not a valid conclusion  paulsby   Sep-15-09 06:44 PM   #45 
     - It's a valid conclusion from the premises offered in the post to which I replied.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:50 PM   #56 
        - no, it's not  paulsby   Sep-15-09 06:55 PM   #68 
        - Given the premises in the post to which I was replying, yes.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 07:03 PM   #88 
           - delete  Turbineguy   Sep-15-09 08:06 PM   #150 
           - that's an inference  paulsby   Sep-15-09 09:44 PM   #174 
        - So you agree that Obama supports torture...  Junkdrawer   Sep-15-09 07:18 PM   #111 
           - Yes  pundaint   Sep-16-09 03:11 AM   #178 
           - Yes  Aragorn   Sep-16-09 07:07 AM   #180 
     - Obama was opposed the censure  Indigent   Sep-15-09 07:45 PM   #138 
  - This should be interesting. Scooch over, there.  anigbrowl   Sep-15-09 06:17 PM   #3 
  - loll l ol. no heads exploding anyway. .... nah, of course not  seabeyond   Sep-15-09 06:27 PM   #14 
  - Don't blame him  Oregone   Sep-15-09 06:19 PM   #4 
  - dont blame him for his vote? who are we suppose to blame, ??? lol lol. nt  seabeyond   Sep-15-09 06:24 PM   #9 
  - I don't blame him. I think it's funny actually. I was an early Kucinich '08 supporter  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 06:35 PM   #27 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-15-09 06:49 PM   #55 
  - Not important? So you are saying that  ashling   Sep-15-09 06:45 PM   #46 
  - Sure, a little ribbing is always welcome  Oregone   Sep-15-09 07:37 PM   #129 
  - So, it is ok to apologize for DK, but not for Obama, EVER, huh?  MoJoWorkin   Sep-15-09 06:45 PM   #48 
     - Who is apologizing?  Oregone   Sep-15-09 07:38 PM   #132 
  - I would guess there is a reason.  robinlynne   Sep-15-09 06:21 PM   #5 
  - I believe he was insisting upon a full censure.  flvegan   Sep-15-09 06:22 PM   #6 
  - Of course. All or nothing... in every way. Well I'll give him consistency points, I suppose.  BlooInBloo   Sep-15-09 06:37 PM   #30 
     - I'm sure that not having those points from you would keep him up at night  flvegan   Sep-15-09 06:44 PM   #42 
        - True that.  BlooInBloo   Sep-15-09 06:45 PM   #49 
  - of course there is a reason. isnt there ALWAYS a reason? nt  seabeyond   Sep-15-09 06:23 PM   #7 
  - Kucinich probably was more interested in the health care debate than a decorum breach.  Selatius   Sep-15-09 06:23 PM   #8 
  - so he went and voted no???? why not just not be there and be busy with  seabeyond   Sep-15-09 06:25 PM   #10 
  - Well, first off, I'm not trying to excuse what Kucinich just did.  Selatius   Sep-15-09 06:34 PM   #23 
     - even if not a big deal, which it isnt, no sense voting no. you are there, vote fuckin yes.... not  seabeyond   Sep-15-09 06:35 PM   #28 
        - Well, he voted no. He was obviously protesting something.  Selatius   Sep-15-09 06:42 PM   #40 
           - i dont think the other dems ever get this kinda support when they vote against dems  seabeyond   Sep-15-09 06:45 PM   #47 
           - Dennis Kucinich loves political point-scoring.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:52 PM   #62 
  - or he could ahve been angry that the only question was where and how You lie was  robinlynne   Sep-15-09 06:27 PM   #13 
  - Yes, we all know how DK hates grandstanding and symbolic votes,  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:31 PM   #19 
  - And by give-and-take I assume you mean giving in to corporate interests.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 06:38 PM   #33 
     - Nope. I don't. I mean negotiating. DK has never been any good at that.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:48 PM   #53 
        - But you do not deny that he is right in his political beliefs, right?  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 07:00 PM   #81 
           - Most of 'em.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 07:10 PM   #103 
  - That's what I'm thinking.  backscatter712   Sep-15-09 06:32 PM   #20 
  - nothing like looking like a united group as about tackle something important like healthcare  seabeyond   Sep-15-09 06:33 PM   #22 
  - Nice spin.... 9.9  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Sep-15-09 07:33 PM   #124 
     - lol, that is funny. nt  seabeyond   Sep-15-09 07:42 PM   #137 
     - Read post #23.  Selatius   Sep-15-09 07:48 PM   #139 
  - He might have wanted censure. Kucinich rarely compromises.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Sep-15-09 06:26 PM   #12 
  - Not a good excuse, and the reason he is more unreliable  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-15-09 06:29 PM   #15 
  - Well blue dogs ARE reliable republicans, if that is your thing I guess that counts as positive  Dragonfli   Sep-15-09 06:34 PM   #24 
  - Yes he is less reliable because he refuses to give into the bullshit.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 06:35 PM   #29 
  - "If all politicians were like Kucinich, shit would get done."  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:38 PM   #32 
  - No. There is no place for blue dogs just like there is no place for corporatism.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 06:41 PM   #38 
     - Shit would absolutely not get done. You know how I know that?  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:47 PM   #51 
        - He's never lead anything because it isn't a fucking whore.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 06:53 PM   #64 
        - So 676 could pass Congress, if we didn't have moderates or conservatives in Congress.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:56 PM   #70 
           - You are attempting to marginalize him by saying that he's in a "dreamland"...  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 06:57 PM   #75 
              - No, I'm saying he's a marginal politician who could only be successful in the land of your dreams.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:59 PM   #76 
                 - I will gladly take the label "idealist" if it means that I don't act like a fucking dog.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 07:03 PM   #89 
                    - Did anyone offer you that label? I sure didn't. nt  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 07:04 PM   #90 
                       - You mock me for refusing to compromise on a bill that is better.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 07:06 PM   #95 
                          - Hm? You're not compromising on any bill.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 07:09 PM   #100 
                             - Your politicians aren't "effective" at doing anything more than giving us candy coated shit.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 07:16 PM   #108 
        - The problem is Democrats still don't control the legislative agenda.  Selatius   Sep-15-09 07:05 PM   #93 
        - Democrats do. Liberals don't.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 07:07 PM   #97 
        - I agree with your assessment of Kucinich, except your last line.  tekisui   Sep-15-09 07:21 PM   #113 
  - LOL! nt  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-15-09 06:39 PM   #37 
  - um, no. there was no bullshit here. the resolution was perfectly reasonable  cali   Sep-15-09 07:10 PM   #101 
  - He is very reliable. He votes for what he believes in. You get what you see with him.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Sep-15-09 06:41 PM   #39 
  - +1  Individualist   Sep-15-09 06:31 PM   #18 
  - Except when picking out republican vice presidents  ecstatic   Sep-15-09 06:32 PM   #21 
  - And because of that, Kucinich consistently compromises.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:35 PM   #26 
  - Surprise, surprise, surprise!  JuniperLea   Sep-15-09 06:35 PM   #25 
  - Kucinich voted against a meaningless wrist slap! off with his head!  KG   Sep-15-09 06:37 PM   #31 
  - Live by the bullshit symbolic grandstanding, die by the bullshit symbolic grandstanding. nt  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:38 PM   #34 
  - incoherent anonymous internet bluster; how quaint and rustic.  KG   Sep-15-09 07:18 PM   #109 
  - Get a grip.  Forkboy   Sep-16-09 07:27 AM   #182 
  - DLCers will continue their orgasms until DK explains his no vote.  Individualist   Sep-15-09 06:38 PM   #35 
     - no kidding - this thread is already a glazed donut.  KG   Sep-15-09 06:43 PM   #41 
     - Gads. It's like watching a clique of high school girls preening and crowing because they get to diss  scarletwoman   Sep-15-09 06:50 PM   # 
        - heh. guess they need a goat, coz with dem majorities on the hill and the WH, they still  KG   Sep-15-09 06:59 PM   #79 
           - ...and there it is.  flvegan   Sep-15-09 07:03 PM   #87 
  - Kucinich would probably prefer to have an all out brawl to determine...  Kansas Wyatt   Sep-15-09 06:39 PM   #36 
  - He has already cosponsored a fucking bill. It's called HR 676.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 06:44 PM   #43 
     - And it will never pass as is.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-15-09 06:50 PM   #57 
     - They are corporatists. Why is that such an unbelievable concept to you?  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 06:54 PM   #66 
        - Yawn. nt  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-15-09 07:05 PM   #92 
        - Don't waste your time.  Individualist   Sep-15-09 07:18 PM   #110 
        - Didn't you say yesterday that DLC'ers would never  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-15-09 07:29 PM   #122 
        - I see ignored below my previous post  Individualist   Sep-15-09 07:38 PM   #131 
           - LOL! Thank god you can put your fingers in your ears and,  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-15-09 07:49 PM   #140 
           - ...  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 07:52 PM   #142 
              - Ummm....  Individualist   Sep-15-09 07:58 PM   #144 
              - That's what I was thinking. I just wanted to verify.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 08:01 PM   #147 
                 - Bwahahahaaha! ROTFLMFAO!  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:07 PM   #151 
              - This poster is all in a tizzy and thinks he/she is Mary Poppins (see post #55 above)  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:02 PM   #148 
                 - Maybe he or she is Mary Poppins.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 08:05 PM   #149 
        - Is EVERYONE who isn't a pure-red Socialist a Corporatist? Sheesh, I'm tired of these fucking labels.  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:21 PM   #157 
           - These people are so far from socialist that your question is a little bit illogical.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 08:30 PM   #163 
              - Did I misread your post? How does that logic work?  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:38 PM   #169 
     - Yes. A bill that had no chance of ever being passed due to his pathological inability to negotiate.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:54 PM   #67 
     - 676 is the best bill out of all the healthcare bills, is it not?  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 06:56 PM   #71 
     - Yes. But bills aren't inherently any more useful than toilet paper.  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 07:00 PM   #80 
        - You are using the failed system to argue against someone trying to fix it.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 07:03 PM   #85 
           - Has DK ever tried to change the rules of order or the composition of the Congress?  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 07:04 PM   #91 
              - Yes he has. He has supported and continues to support finance reform.  armyowalgreens   Sep-15-09 07:13 PM   #106 
     - Speaking of pathological.  Forkboy   Sep-16-09 07:28 AM   #183 
     - Umm....  Kansas Wyatt   Sep-15-09 07:02 PM   #84 
  - Well save yer popcorn on my behalf...  ljm2002   Sep-15-09 06:44 PM   #44 
  - It never ceases to amaze me how some 'Democrats' will insanely grasp onto  NorthCarolina   Sep-15-09 06:47 PM   #50 
  - "who has continually sought to better the lives of average folk"  Occam Bandage   Sep-15-09 06:51 PM   #61 
  - Your talking about how Obama is treated on this site, right?  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 06:52 PM   #63 
  - I didn't attack Obama, and I am not defending Kucinich. I am just commenting on an observation nt  NorthCarolina   Sep-15-09 06:55 PM   #69 
  - I never said you attacked Obama.  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 06:57 PM   #73 
  - "Your talking..."  Individualist   Sep-15-09 07:27 PM   #121 
     - Yes Mary Poppins (see post #55), I wilz lurnz gramerz  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 09:49 PM   #176 
  - It's the hypocricy...they don't mind condemming Pres Obama  Cha   Sep-15-09 06:57 PM   #74 
  - Maybe, but I'm not yet aware of the reason behind DK's no vote. I will wait to hear  NorthCarolina   Sep-15-09 07:10 PM   #104 
  - IT's against the House Rules and I read  Cha   Sep-15-09 07:26 PM   #120 
  - Just bookmark this thread. It's full of defenses that they call b.s. on when we defend Obama  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 07:16 PM   #107 
     - Good idea.. I already  Cha   Sep-15-09 07:24 PM   #117 
     - Done!  azmouse   Sep-15-09 07:37 PM   #130 
  - I did one of those political tests a few years back, and Kucinich's *stated* views  ecstatic   Sep-15-09 07:03 PM   #86 
  - Of course he did. and the Dennisians will come up with a...  TreasonousBastard   Sep-15-09 06:48 PM   #52 
  - I'm still a Kucinich supporter  johnnie   Sep-15-09 06:50 PM   #58 
  - So did Jim McDermott. Barney Franks voted "present"  Junkdrawer   Sep-15-09 06:50 PM   #59 
  - Frank voted Present because he has a conflict of interest. He was reprimanded before  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 06:54 PM   #65 
     - I grow weary of the Democrat vs. Republican game...  Junkdrawer   Sep-15-09 06:56 PM   #72 
        - Yeah, wilson broke the rules..and the Dems called him OUT  Cha   Sep-15-09 06:59 PM   #77 
        - It's politics.  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 06:59 PM   #78 
           - Too often it resembles Studio Wrestling n/t  Junkdrawer   Sep-15-09 07:00 PM   #82 
              - Well, I can't disagree with you on that.  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:08 PM   #152 
                 - It's a 'Burgh thing. (The granddaddy of the WWWF).  Junkdrawer   Sep-15-09 08:32 PM   #164 
  - Whatever  Raine   Sep-15-09 06:50 PM   #60 
  - Thats rich from the people who don't want to  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-15-09 07:02 PM   #83 
     - You didn't get the memo. Us Obama supporters are held to a double standard.  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 07:12 PM   #105 
     - Apparently I'm not allowed to be pro-Obama  Raine   Sep-15-09 07:41 PM   #136 
     - WHY would you assume such a thing ...  Raine   Sep-15-09 07:39 PM   #135 
  - Perhaps he holds the First Amendment in higher esteem than Representative Wilson?  ddeclue   Sep-15-09 07:05 PM   #94 
  - Please describe in detail precisely how ANYTHING Congress considered doing...  BlooInBloo   Sep-15-09 07:07 PM   #96 
  - I don't agree that it was - I'm just putting myself in DK's shoes and trying to come up with a  ddeclue   Sep-15-09 07:10 PM   #102 
  - LOL the first amendment has nothing to do with this.  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-15-09 07:08 PM   #98 
  - Maybe he's considering Joe Wilson as a potential running mate.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-15-09 07:09 PM   #99 
  - That must be it.  DevonRex   Sep-15-09 07:23 PM   #115 
  - Well, Obama deplored the whole censure thing as a "circus"  kenny blankenship   Sep-15-09 07:18 PM   #112 
  - Snap!  Individualist   Sep-15-09 07:21 PM   #114 
  - And maybe Obama isn't a member of the House whose rules were violated.  subcomhd   Sep-15-09 07:25 PM   #119 
  - Snap!  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 07:37 PM   #127 
  - Actually, Obama did NOT deplore the rebuke as a circus...  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 07:36 PM   #125 
     - So he likes SOME acts of the circus then?  kenny blankenship   Sep-15-09 07:39 PM   # 
        - Reading comprehension issues? Here's some help  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 07:51 PM   #141 
           - Wow, I never understood before that DENNIS KUCINICH IS A RACIST!!111!  kenny blankenship   Sep-15-09 07:56 PM   #143 
              - WTF?  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 07:59 PM   # 
  - Kucinich is worse than useless.  subcomhd   Sep-15-09 07:23 PM   #116 
  - He has never accomplished a thing for working people in this country  johnnie   Sep-15-09 08:32 PM   #165 
     - what is his biggest legislative accomplishment? nt  subcomhd   Sep-15-09 08:46 PM   #171 
  - But Kucinich did vote FOR:  azmouse   Sep-15-09 07:24 PM   #118 
  - Those things are only to be condemned when Obama supports them.  subcomhd   Sep-15-09 07:31 PM   #123 
  - Hammer. Nail. Double. Standard.  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 07:39 PM   #134 
  - Woah there Nellie! He only voted for those because he wanted something better later.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Sep-15-09 07:37 PM   #128 
     - and only St. D the Perfect may do that. nt  subcomhd   Sep-15-09 08:48 PM   #172 
  - Dennis has the highest Ppiv in Congress  JBoy   Sep-15-09 07:39 PM   #133 
  - So, he refused to join in the marshmallow throw? How awful!!  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-15-09 07:58 PM   #145 
  - Gotta disagree with Dennis on this one  mvd   Sep-15-09 07:59 PM   #146 
  - Pretty obvious - Dennis always had a soft spot for Mr. Wilson  grantcart   Sep-15-09 08:12 PM   #153 
  - A lot of people showing their true colors in this thread  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-15-09 08:13 PM   #154 
  - How Rovian of you. Everyone you disagree with is a Republican. Got it.  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:19 PM   #155 
     - No, but the ones who look for any excuse to bash a good Democrat probably are.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-15-09 08:23 PM   #159 
        - The same exact shit happens to Obama here. This thread is a perfect reflection of what goes on  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:29 PM   #161 
           - Then instead of saying "snap", you should be upset about both instances.  Forkboy   Sep-16-09 07:33 AM   #184 
  - Let's push for a formal reprimand against him, shall we? nt  EmilyAnne   Sep-15-09 08:20 PM   #156 
  - Voting Yea or No is not a violation of House Rules.  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:22 PM   #158 
     - I should have used the sarcasm feature. I was trying to make a joke. Imagine one long string of  EmilyAnne   Sep-15-09 08:29 PM   #162 
        - Ah, I see. Sorry I missed that. Although...  berni_mccoy   Sep-15-09 08:33 PM   #166 
  - Because this is more like a slap on the wrist than any actual punishment?  sakabatou   Sep-15-09 08:25 PM   #160 
  - What? Kucinich swimming against the tide? I'm shocked. Shocked!  Bucky   Sep-15-09 08:33 PM   #167 
  - I don't  Rex   Sep-15-09 08:37 PM   #168 
  - I happen to think Dennis Kucinich's version of "Sixteen Tons" was goddamned  saltpoint   Sep-15-09 08:38 PM   #170 
  - Equally baffling: Dana Rohrabacher, RW nutcase personified, voted YES.  VOX   Sep-15-09 08:59 PM   #173 
  - Brain swap?  anigbrowl   Sep-15-09 09:45 PM   #175 
  - As I understand it, based on what the news said without actually reading the bill there is no  JonLP24   Sep-16-09 02:54 AM   #177 
  - I'm with you on that one.  Forkboy   Sep-16-09 07:34 AM   #185 
  - Yes, but you neglect those 'Dems' on this board who are ever so desperate  NorthCarolina   Sep-16-09 08:41 AM   #188 
  - I love Dennis and have a lot of respect for him and will continue too  madokie   Sep-16-09 07:13 AM   #181 
  - K has a Napoleanic complex!!!  watercolors   Sep-16-09 08:22 AM   #186 
  - naaa. he just isn't into political grandstanding. nt  jonnyblitz   Sep-16-09 08:25 AM   #187 
  - Wilson Deserved To Be Chastized!  zorahopkins   Sep-16-09 08:51 AM   #189 
  - why?  mdmc   Sep-19-09 10:29 AM   #190 
  - God, who the hell cares.  BuyingThyme   Sep-19-09 10:31 AM   #191 
 

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