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Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM
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| Gads. It's like watching a clique of high school girls preening and crowing because they get to diss |
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the geeky kid who isn't cool like them.
Obviously, the resolution was going to pass with enough votes to make it safe for Kucinich and Barney Frank (among the 1/2 dozen Dems who also voted no) to express their independent judgement on the matter.
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| -Kucinich Voted AGAINST Wilson Reprimand. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 06:13 PM |
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Kucinich has an interesting past nt |
ecstatic |
Sep-15-09 06:15 PM |
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Do tell. |
mmonk |
Sep-16-09 06:58 AM |
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Thinking of the future |
Turbineguy |
Sep-15-09 06:15 PM |
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So Kucinich supports interrupting addresses to Congress with heckling, |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:21 PM |
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Representative Kucinich support full censure. Full censure. |
Raster |
Sep-15-09 06:25 PM |
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Oh, so he was just voting against a good bill because he wanted a better one. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:30 PM |
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. |
Barack_America |
Sep-15-09 07:36 PM |
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Link? |
ecstatic |
Sep-15-09 06:30 PM |
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Self Delete. Posted wrong spot. |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-15-09 06:49 PM |
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not a valid conclusion |
paulsby |
Sep-15-09 06:44 PM |
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It's a valid conclusion from the premises offered in the post to which I replied. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:50 PM |
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no, it's not |
paulsby |
Sep-15-09 06:55 PM |
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Given the premises in the post to which I was replying, yes. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 07:03 PM |
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delete |
Turbineguy |
Sep-15-09 08:06 PM |
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that's an inference |
paulsby |
Sep-15-09 09:44 PM |
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So you agree that Obama supports torture... |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-15-09 07:18 PM |
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Yes |
pundaint |
Sep-16-09 03:11 AM |
#178 |
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Yes |
Aragorn |
Sep-16-09 07:07 AM |
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Obama was opposed the censure |
Indigent |
Sep-15-09 07:45 PM |
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This should be interesting. Scooch over, there. |
anigbrowl |
Sep-15-09 06:17 PM |
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loll l ol. no heads exploding anyway. .... nah, of course not |
seabeyond |
Sep-15-09 06:27 PM |
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Don't blame him |
Oregone |
Sep-15-09 06:19 PM |
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dont blame him for his vote? who are we suppose to blame, ??? lol lol. nt |
seabeyond |
Sep-15-09 06:24 PM |
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I don't blame him. I think it's funny actually. I was an early Kucinich '08 supporter |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 06:35 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-15-09 06:49 PM |
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Not important? So you are saying that |
ashling |
Sep-15-09 06:45 PM |
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Sure, a little ribbing is always welcome |
Oregone |
Sep-15-09 07:37 PM |
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So, it is ok to apologize for DK, but not for Obama, EVER, huh? |
MoJoWorkin |
Sep-15-09 06:45 PM |
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Who is apologizing? |
Oregone |
Sep-15-09 07:38 PM |
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I would guess there is a reason. |
robinlynne |
Sep-15-09 06:21 PM |
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I believe he was insisting upon a full censure. |
flvegan |
Sep-15-09 06:22 PM |
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Of course. All or nothing... in every way. Well I'll give him consistency points, I suppose. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-15-09 06:37 PM |
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I'm sure that not having those points from you would keep him up at night |
flvegan |
Sep-15-09 06:44 PM |
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True that. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-15-09 06:45 PM |
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of course there is a reason. isnt there ALWAYS a reason? nt |
seabeyond |
Sep-15-09 06:23 PM |
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Kucinich probably was more interested in the health care debate than a decorum breach. |
Selatius |
Sep-15-09 06:23 PM |
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so he went and voted no???? why not just not be there and be busy with |
seabeyond |
Sep-15-09 06:25 PM |
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Well, first off, I'm not trying to excuse what Kucinich just did. |
Selatius |
Sep-15-09 06:34 PM |
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even if not a big deal, which it isnt, no sense voting no. you are there, vote fuckin yes.... not |
seabeyond |
Sep-15-09 06:35 PM |
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Well, he voted no. He was obviously protesting something. |
Selatius |
Sep-15-09 06:42 PM |
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i dont think the other dems ever get this kinda support when they vote against dems |
seabeyond |
Sep-15-09 06:45 PM |
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Dennis Kucinich loves political point-scoring. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:52 PM |
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or he could ahve been angry that the only question was where and how You lie was |
robinlynne |
Sep-15-09 06:27 PM |
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Yes, we all know how DK hates grandstanding and symbolic votes, |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:31 PM |
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And by give-and-take I assume you mean giving in to corporate interests. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 06:38 PM |
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Nope. I don't. I mean negotiating. DK has never been any good at that. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:48 PM |
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But you do not deny that he is right in his political beliefs, right? |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 07:00 PM |
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Most of 'em. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 07:10 PM |
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That's what I'm thinking. |
backscatter712 |
Sep-15-09 06:32 PM |
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nothing like looking like a united group as about tackle something important like healthcare |
seabeyond |
Sep-15-09 06:33 PM |
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Nice spin.... 9.9 |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
Sep-15-09 07:33 PM |
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lol, that is funny. nt |
seabeyond |
Sep-15-09 07:42 PM |
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Read post #23. |
Selatius |
Sep-15-09 07:48 PM |
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He might have wanted censure. Kucinich rarely compromises. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-15-09 06:26 PM |
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Not a good excuse, and the reason he is more unreliable |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-15-09 06:29 PM |
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Well blue dogs ARE reliable republicans, if that is your thing I guess that counts as positive |
Dragonfli |
Sep-15-09 06:34 PM |
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Yes he is less reliable because he refuses to give into the bullshit. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 06:35 PM |
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"If all politicians were like Kucinich, shit would get done." |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:38 PM |
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No. There is no place for blue dogs just like there is no place for corporatism. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 06:41 PM |
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Shit would absolutely not get done. You know how I know that? |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:47 PM |
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He's never lead anything because it isn't a fucking whore. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 06:53 PM |
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So 676 could pass Congress, if we didn't have moderates or conservatives in Congress. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:56 PM |
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You are attempting to marginalize him by saying that he's in a "dreamland"... |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 06:57 PM |
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No, I'm saying he's a marginal politician who could only be successful in the land of your dreams. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:59 PM |
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I will gladly take the label "idealist" if it means that I don't act like a fucking dog. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 07:03 PM |
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Did anyone offer you that label? I sure didn't. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 07:04 PM |
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You mock me for refusing to compromise on a bill that is better. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 07:06 PM |
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Hm? You're not compromising on any bill. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 07:09 PM |
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Your politicians aren't "effective" at doing anything more than giving us candy coated shit. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 07:16 PM |
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The problem is Democrats still don't control the legislative agenda. |
Selatius |
Sep-15-09 07:05 PM |
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Democrats do. Liberals don't. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 07:07 PM |
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I agree with your assessment of Kucinich, except your last line. |
tekisui |
Sep-15-09 07:21 PM |
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LOL! nt |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-15-09 06:39 PM |
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um, no. there was no bullshit here. the resolution was perfectly reasonable |
cali |
Sep-15-09 07:10 PM |
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He is very reliable. He votes for what he believes in. You get what you see with him. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-15-09 06:41 PM |
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+1 |
Individualist |
Sep-15-09 06:31 PM |
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Except when picking out republican vice presidents |
ecstatic |
Sep-15-09 06:32 PM |
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And because of that, Kucinich consistently compromises. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:35 PM |
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Surprise, surprise, surprise! |
JuniperLea |
Sep-15-09 06:35 PM |
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Kucinich voted against a meaningless wrist slap! off with his head! |
KG |
Sep-15-09 06:37 PM |
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Live by the bullshit symbolic grandstanding, die by the bullshit symbolic grandstanding. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:38 PM |
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incoherent anonymous internet bluster; how quaint and rustic. |
KG |
Sep-15-09 07:18 PM |
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Get a grip. |
Forkboy |
Sep-16-09 07:27 AM |
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DLCers will continue their orgasms until DK explains his no vote. |
Individualist |
Sep-15-09 06:38 PM |
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no kidding - this thread is already a glazed donut. |
KG |
Sep-15-09 06:43 PM |
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Gads. It's like watching a clique of high school girls preening and crowing because they get to diss |
scarletwoman |
Sep-15-09 06:50 PM |
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heh. guess they need a goat, coz with dem majorities on the hill and the WH, they still |
KG |
Sep-15-09 06:59 PM |
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...and there it is. |
flvegan |
Sep-15-09 07:03 PM |
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Kucinich would probably prefer to have an all out brawl to determine... |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-15-09 06:39 PM |
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He has already cosponsored a fucking bill. It's called HR 676. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 06:44 PM |
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And it will never pass as is. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-15-09 06:50 PM |
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They are corporatists. Why is that such an unbelievable concept to you? |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 06:54 PM |
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Yawn. nt |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-15-09 07:05 PM |
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Don't waste your time. |
Individualist |
Sep-15-09 07:18 PM |
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Didn't you say yesterday that DLC'ers would never |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-15-09 07:29 PM |
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I see ignored below my previous post |
Individualist |
Sep-15-09 07:38 PM |
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LOL! Thank god you can put your fingers in your ears and, |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-15-09 07:49 PM |
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... |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 07:52 PM |
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Ummm.... |
Individualist |
Sep-15-09 07:58 PM |
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That's what I was thinking. I just wanted to verify. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 08:01 PM |
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Bwahahahaaha! ROTFLMFAO! |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:07 PM |
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This poster is all in a tizzy and thinks he/she is Mary Poppins (see post #55 above) |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:02 PM |
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Maybe he or she is Mary Poppins. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 08:05 PM |
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Is EVERYONE who isn't a pure-red Socialist a Corporatist? Sheesh, I'm tired of these fucking labels. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:21 PM |
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These people are so far from socialist that your question is a little bit illogical. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 08:30 PM |
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Did I misread your post? How does that logic work? |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:38 PM |
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Yes. A bill that had no chance of ever being passed due to his pathological inability to negotiate. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:54 PM |
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676 is the best bill out of all the healthcare bills, is it not? |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 06:56 PM |
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Yes. But bills aren't inherently any more useful than toilet paper. |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 07:00 PM |
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You are using the failed system to argue against someone trying to fix it. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 07:03 PM |
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Has DK ever tried to change the rules of order or the composition of the Congress? |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 07:04 PM |
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Yes he has. He has supported and continues to support finance reform. |
armyowalgreens |
Sep-15-09 07:13 PM |
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Speaking of pathological. |
Forkboy |
Sep-16-09 07:28 AM |
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Umm.... |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-15-09 07:02 PM |
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Well save yer popcorn on my behalf... |
ljm2002 |
Sep-15-09 06:44 PM |
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It never ceases to amaze me how some 'Democrats' will insanely grasp onto |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-15-09 06:47 PM |
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"who has continually sought to better the lives of average folk" |
Occam Bandage |
Sep-15-09 06:51 PM |
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Your talking about how Obama is treated on this site, right? |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 06:52 PM |
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I didn't attack Obama, and I am not defending Kucinich. I am just commenting on an observation nt |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-15-09 06:55 PM |
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I never said you attacked Obama. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 06:57 PM |
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"Your talking..." |
Individualist |
Sep-15-09 07:27 PM |
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Yes Mary Poppins (see post #55), I wilz lurnz gramerz |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 09:49 PM |
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It's the hypocricy...they don't mind condemming Pres Obama |
Cha |
Sep-15-09 06:57 PM |
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Maybe, but I'm not yet aware of the reason behind DK's no vote. I will wait to hear |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-15-09 07:10 PM |
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IT's against the House Rules and I read |
Cha |
Sep-15-09 07:26 PM |
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Just bookmark this thread. It's full of defenses that they call b.s. on when we defend Obama |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 07:16 PM |
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Good idea.. I already |
Cha |
Sep-15-09 07:24 PM |
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Done! |
azmouse |
Sep-15-09 07:37 PM |
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I did one of those political tests a few years back, and Kucinich's *stated* views |
ecstatic |
Sep-15-09 07:03 PM |
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Of course he did. and the Dennisians will come up with a... |
TreasonousBastard |
Sep-15-09 06:48 PM |
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I'm still a Kucinich supporter |
johnnie |
Sep-15-09 06:50 PM |
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So did Jim McDermott. Barney Franks voted "present" |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-15-09 06:50 PM |
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Frank voted Present because he has a conflict of interest. He was reprimanded before |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 06:54 PM |
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I grow weary of the Democrat vs. Republican game... |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-15-09 06:56 PM |
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Yeah, wilson broke the rules..and the Dems called him OUT |
Cha |
Sep-15-09 06:59 PM |
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It's politics. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 06:59 PM |
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Too often it resembles Studio Wrestling n/t |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-15-09 07:00 PM |
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Well, I can't disagree with you on that. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:08 PM |
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It's a 'Burgh thing. (The granddaddy of the WWWF). |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-15-09 08:32 PM |
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Whatever |
Raine |
Sep-15-09 06:50 PM |
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Thats rich from the people who don't want to |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-15-09 07:02 PM |
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You didn't get the memo. Us Obama supporters are held to a double standard. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 07:12 PM |
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Apparently I'm not allowed to be pro-Obama |
Raine |
Sep-15-09 07:41 PM |
#136 |
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WHY would you assume such a thing ... |
Raine |
Sep-15-09 07:39 PM |
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Perhaps he holds the First Amendment in higher esteem than Representative Wilson? |
ddeclue |
Sep-15-09 07:05 PM |
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Please describe in detail precisely how ANYTHING Congress considered doing... |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-15-09 07:07 PM |
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I don't agree that it was - I'm just putting myself in DK's shoes and trying to come up with a |
ddeclue |
Sep-15-09 07:10 PM |
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LOL the first amendment has nothing to do with this. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-15-09 07:08 PM |
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Maybe he's considering Joe Wilson as a potential running mate. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-15-09 07:09 PM |
#99 |
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That must be it. |
DevonRex |
Sep-15-09 07:23 PM |
#115 |
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Well, Obama deplored the whole censure thing as a "circus" |
kenny blankenship |
Sep-15-09 07:18 PM |
#112 |
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Snap! |
Individualist |
Sep-15-09 07:21 PM |
#114 |
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And maybe Obama isn't a member of the House whose rules were violated. |
subcomhd |
Sep-15-09 07:25 PM |
#119 |
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Snap! |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 07:37 PM |
#127 |
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Actually, Obama did NOT deplore the rebuke as a circus... |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 07:36 PM |
#125 |
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So he likes SOME acts of the circus then? |
kenny blankenship |
Sep-15-09 07:39 PM |
# |
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Reading comprehension issues? Here's some help |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 07:51 PM |
#141 |
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Wow, I never understood before that DENNIS KUCINICH IS A RACIST!!111! |
kenny blankenship |
Sep-15-09 07:56 PM |
#143 |
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WTF? |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 07:59 PM |
# |
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Kucinich is worse than useless. |
subcomhd |
Sep-15-09 07:23 PM |
#116 |
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He has never accomplished a thing for working people in this country |
johnnie |
Sep-15-09 08:32 PM |
#165 |
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what is his biggest legislative accomplishment? nt |
subcomhd |
Sep-15-09 08:46 PM |
#171 |
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But Kucinich did vote FOR: |
azmouse |
Sep-15-09 07:24 PM |
#118 |
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Those things are only to be condemned when Obama supports them. |
subcomhd |
Sep-15-09 07:31 PM |
#123 |
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Hammer. Nail. Double. Standard. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 07:39 PM |
#134 |
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Woah there Nellie! He only voted for those because he wanted something better later. |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
Sep-15-09 07:37 PM |
#128 |
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and only St. D the Perfect may do that. nt |
subcomhd |
Sep-15-09 08:48 PM |
#172 |
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Dennis has the highest Ppiv in Congress |
JBoy |
Sep-15-09 07:39 PM |
#133 |
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So, he refused to join in the marshmallow throw? How awful!! |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-15-09 07:58 PM |
#145 |
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Gotta disagree with Dennis on this one |
mvd |
Sep-15-09 07:59 PM |
#146 |
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Pretty obvious - Dennis always had a soft spot for Mr. Wilson |
grantcart |
Sep-15-09 08:12 PM |
#153 |
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A lot of people showing their true colors in this thread |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-15-09 08:13 PM |
#154 |
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How Rovian of you. Everyone you disagree with is a Republican. Got it. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:19 PM |
#155 |
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No, but the ones who look for any excuse to bash a good Democrat probably are. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-15-09 08:23 PM |
#159 |
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The same exact shit happens to Obama here. This thread is a perfect reflection of what goes on |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:29 PM |
#161 |
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Then instead of saying "snap", you should be upset about both instances. |
Forkboy |
Sep-16-09 07:33 AM |
#184 |
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Let's push for a formal reprimand against him, shall we? nt |
EmilyAnne |
Sep-15-09 08:20 PM |
#156 |
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Voting Yea or No is not a violation of House Rules. |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:22 PM |
#158 |
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I should have used the sarcasm feature. I was trying to make a joke. Imagine one long string of |
EmilyAnne |
Sep-15-09 08:29 PM |
#162 |
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Ah, I see. Sorry I missed that. Although... |
berni_mccoy |
Sep-15-09 08:33 PM |
#166 |
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Because this is more like a slap on the wrist than any actual punishment? |
sakabatou |
Sep-15-09 08:25 PM |
#160 |
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What? Kucinich swimming against the tide? I'm shocked. Shocked! |
Bucky |
Sep-15-09 08:33 PM |
#167 |
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I don't |
Rex |
Sep-15-09 08:37 PM |
#168 |
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I happen to think Dennis Kucinich's version of "Sixteen Tons" was goddamned |
saltpoint |
Sep-15-09 08:38 PM |
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Equally baffling: Dana Rohrabacher, RW nutcase personified, voted YES. |
VOX |
Sep-15-09 08:59 PM |
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Brain swap? |
anigbrowl |
Sep-15-09 09:45 PM |
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As I understand it, based on what the news said without actually reading the bill there is no |
JonLP24 |
Sep-16-09 02:54 AM |
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I'm with you on that one. |
Forkboy |
Sep-16-09 07:34 AM |
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Yes, but you neglect those 'Dems' on this board who are ever so desperate |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-16-09 08:41 AM |
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I love Dennis and have a lot of respect for him and will continue too |
madokie |
Sep-16-09 07:13 AM |
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K has a Napoleanic complex!!! |
watercolors |
Sep-16-09 08:22 AM |
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naaa. he just isn't into political grandstanding. nt |
jonnyblitz |
Sep-16-09 08:25 AM |
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Wilson Deserved To Be Chastized! |
zorahopkins |
Sep-16-09 08:51 AM |
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why? |
mdmc |
Sep-19-09 10:29 AM |
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God, who the hell cares. |
BuyingThyme |
Sep-19-09 10:31 AM |
#191 |
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