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Mon Sep-14-09 09:33 PM
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| 55. I have lived in the Middle East for 23 years - it happens - particularly in remote areas in |
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Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 10:09 PM by Douglas Carpenter
certain countries.
I have not seen more than a few case in the past 23 years. I have not seen any cases in the past 20 years.
My work has in me in a position where I would be familiar with a large number of women coming in to deliver babies...again I have not seen any cases in the past 20 years and only a few cases about 20 years ago.
I should add that where I have seen it was in remote, impoverished areas that lacked education for young girls. I have not seen any cases in more urban settings where education for girls is common.
I'm also equally aware of such cases in impoverished, remote parts of Christian Philippines and Hindu, India and Nepal.
It may very well be common in Yemen. My work at the time was in a remote province of Saudi - just north of Yemen. Education for young girls is now fairly well established in Saudi Arabia - That is probably not the case in Yemen which is considerably more impoverished than remote areas of Saudi Arabia. Yemenis cross over illegally into Saudi Arabia regularly to try to find work and at times to beg on the street. Yemen is stunningly poor and I am certain lacking in education for young girls.
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panzerfaust |
Sep-14-09 04:56 AM |
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Hard to believe that this is alright with the religious, law abiding |
midnight |
Sep-14-09 05:05 AM |
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Muhammad himself consummated his marriage with his wife Aisha when she was only nine years old: |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-14-09 06:03 AM |
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Child marriages were not uncommon in mediaeval times |
LeftishBrit |
Sep-14-09 06:13 AM |
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Muhammad marriage and sexual relationship with Aisha was considered abnormal even at the time. |
Statistical |
Sep-14-09 07:58 AM |
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Child marriages were reasonably common among the |
LibertyLover |
Sep-14-09 11:13 AM |
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the historical record ..Hadith .. says that all of Aisha's hair fell out after the rape.. |
sam sarrha |
Sep-14-09 05:09 PM |
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That's a symptom of syphilis. |
madeline_con |
Sep-14-09 09:01 PM |
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Makes one wonder if Muhammad's marriage was "ceremonially consummated" |
madeline_con |
Sep-14-09 09:08 PM |
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12 years old was middle-aged back then |
madville |
Sep-14-09 07:33 PM |
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That's ridiculous |
harkadog |
Sep-14-09 07:56 PM |
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Girls married young, but boys generally waited until they had something to offer... |
Gwendolyn |
Sep-14-09 08:09 PM |
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That's one opinion |
atreides1 |
Sep-14-09 06:26 AM |
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Interesting |
atreides1 |
Sep-14-09 06:32 AM |
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Were you there? Abraham tried to kill his second born. Not even going to |
Malikshah |
Sep-15-09 08:30 AM |
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Check out the FLDS cult in Texas. Marriages to girls this young, |
mbperrin |
Sep-14-09 07:26 AM |
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Sep-14-09 05:33 AM |
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I don't know how to ask this nicely. |
aquart |
Sep-14-09 06:00 AM |
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It's one of those things that is just not discussed by the religiously insane |
Frank Cannon |
Sep-14-09 06:15 AM |
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Yes, that's a pretty sick story |
LeftishBrit |
Sep-14-09 06:18 AM |
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The story goes that the girls got Lot drunk |
Art_from_Ark |
Sep-14-09 08:35 PM |
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Information about whether Muhammad married a child |
Jim Lane |
Sep-14-09 07:22 AM |
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it had little to do with Virginity, he obviously had Acromegaly, it causes hyper sex drive, .. |
sam sarrha |
Sep-14-09 04:38 PM |
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9 by the lunar calendar used at the time 8yrs 9 months |
sam sarrha |
Sep-14-09 04:39 PM |
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It has been "noticed" thousands of years ago. |
Statistical |
Sep-14-09 07:54 AM |
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Not really, george bush killed a lot of innocent people because god told him it was ok. He's still |
madmom |
Sep-15-09 09:42 AM |
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Sep-14-09 05:05 PM |
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Sep-14-09 07:59 PM |
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I thought it was pretty much universally accepted that he was. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-14-09 09:02 PM |
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Sep-14-09 04:57 PM |
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Sick bastards n/t |
KillCapitalism |
Sep-14-09 05:59 AM |
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Just another by-product of polygamy. |
fasttense |
Sep-14-09 06:03 AM |
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Ever seen a pride of lions or a tribe of macaques? |
aquart |
Sep-14-09 06:16 AM |
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Or a Congressman? |
Orsino |
Sep-14-09 12:01 PM |
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This is awful |
LeftishBrit |
Sep-14-09 06:15 AM |
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12 year olds should not be having babies. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-14-09 07:04 AM |
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K & R nt |
Christa |
Sep-14-09 07:07 AM |
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Age of the poor young girl aside |
Thothmes |
Sep-14-09 07:15 AM |
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You assume that the average age of Yemeni mothers doesn't play into that stat. |
Barack_America |
Sep-14-09 07:23 AM |
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I am sure that it does play a role, but so does abject |
Thothmes |
Sep-14-09 07:27 AM |
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Would bet, if that young lady had |
Thothmes |
Sep-14-09 07:18 PM |
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She'd also probably be 17 or over... |
UnseenUndergrad |
Sep-14-09 08:36 PM |
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What 12 year olds don't get pregnant in Europe or America? |
Thothmes |
Sep-14-09 08:55 PM |
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Of course they do... |
UnseenUndergrad |
Sep-14-09 09:02 PM |
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the average age ia 12-13...!!!!!!! link>>> |
sam sarrha |
Sep-14-09 08:12 PM |
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Humans are some sick creatures |
texastoast |
Sep-14-09 07:42 AM |
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OMG, that "husband" is a sick,sick fuck! |
Odin2005 |
Sep-14-09 08:10 AM |
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What a great culture |
BoneDaddy |
Sep-14-09 10:43 AM |
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People will probably excuse this, based on "cultural relativity" nt |
Vegasaurus |
Sep-14-09 05:45 PM |
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The fact of the matter is the vast majority of Muslims do NOT practice child marriage |
Douglas Carpenter |
Sep-14-09 05:56 PM |
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Eyes wide shut |
Statistical |
Sep-14-09 09:24 PM |
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I have lived in the Middle East for 23 years - it happens - particularly in remote areas in |
Douglas Carpenter |
Sep-14-09 09:33 PM |
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What I find funny about many liberals |
BoneDaddy |
Sep-15-09 07:22 AM |
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the Islamic world is very rapidly modernizing - the fact that |
Douglas Carpenter |
Sep-15-09 07:53 AM |
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I would agree and hopefully |
BoneDaddy |
Sep-15-09 08:03 AM |
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most Middle Eastern people I know are very much attracted to modernity |
Douglas Carpenter |
Sep-15-09 08:14 AM |
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Understandable |
BoneDaddy |
Sep-15-09 08:26 AM |
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the two best news services in the Middle East, in my opinion |
Douglas Carpenter |
Sep-15-09 08:45 AM |
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Thank you |
BoneDaddy |
Sep-15-09 08:47 AM |
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Fawziya Abdullah Youssef |
Starry Messenger |
Sep-14-09 07:36 PM |
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Well, one can dismiss it, support it, be disgusted with it, or be disgusted with it and do something |
Deja Q |
Sep-14-09 08:11 PM |
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She wasn't even in a hospital. That is awful. Just sick. The man will go out and just get another |
applegrove |
Sep-14-09 08:25 PM |
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I thought the headline meant she was in a labour camp |
undeterred |
Sep-14-09 08:41 PM |
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It is a forced child labor camp just not the kind most people think about. |
Statistical |
Sep-14-09 09:28 PM |
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What, extreme poverty doesn't even get a mention? |
varelse |
Sep-14-09 08:50 PM |
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Yes, I saw that. Likely she was sold so the father could get medical treatment. |
Gwendolyn |
Sep-14-09 09:02 PM |
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Children here are sold for money to buy drugs |
varelse |
Sep-15-09 08:00 AM |
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We had a mayor here in CT who did that. He paid a prostitute for her daughter and niece |
CTyankee |
Sep-15-09 08:54 AM |
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My daughter found an old school chum on Facebook the other day... |
JCMach1 |
Sep-15-09 05:05 AM |
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I think they marry them young in order to insure virginity and that is just sad |
dugaresa |
Sep-15-09 07:37 AM |
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Locking |
wryter2000 |
Sep-15-09 01:43 PM |
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