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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:06 PM
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4. In some states an LPN can't start an IV without getting specific certification
and they want to let a police officer do this? Save me!
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  -cops looking forward to forcibly drawing blood Liberal_in_LA  Sep-13-09 10:56 PM   #0 
  - sooner or later...  wildbilln864   Sep-13-09 11:00 PM   #1 
  - Or add everyone they test to their DNA database  csziggy   Sep-13-09 11:03 PM   #3 
  - I don't think Obama is writing police policy in Idaho, and #2  Maru Kitteh   Sep-13-09 11:18 PM   #7 
  - No, but he has not done anything to change the attitudes in Homeland Security  csziggy   Sep-13-09 11:37 PM   #13 
  - Nice fail attempt at changing the subject. Let's focus please.  Maru Kitteh   Sep-14-09 12:50 AM   #15 
     - This is not simply a local matter, and that is clear from the OP  Bluenorthwest   Sep-14-09 10:02 AM   #39 
        - All that means is NTSB wants data to be tracked, and they'll look  politicat   Sep-15-09 06:44 PM   #66 
  - Obama could at any time end cannabis prohibition by  Occulus   Sep-14-09 02:22 AM   #19 
  - I think he will during his second term. n/t  Tx4obama   Sep-14-09 02:58 AM   #24 
     - How many good programs didn't get introduced  michreject   Sep-14-09 09:06 AM   #33 
        - +1  SammyWinstonJack   Sep-14-09 09:12 AM   #34 
  - It's a FEDERAL program  depakid   Sep-14-09 02:41 AM   #22 
     - It's not a federal program in Texas. It's a new state law that went into effect Sept. 1st.  Lone_Star_Dem   Sep-14-09 03:38 PM   #48 
        - Even if you agree to a breathalyzer test?  PM Martin   Sep-14-09 08:00 PM   #54 
           - Yes.  Lone_Star_Dem   Sep-15-09 05:49 PM   #62 
  - or- in relation to the story in the op...  dysfunctional press   Sep-13-09 11:23 PM   #9 
  - They're way ahead of you on that  IDemo   Sep-13-09 11:31 PM   #12 
  - You have a point.  Lagomorph   Sep-14-09 05:16 AM   #26 
  - That meaty part under your thumb is not an appropriate site  Ms. Toad   Sep-14-09 08:14 PM   #56 
     - Yeah, that how I knew I was getting  Lagomorph   Sep-14-09 10:24 PM   #61 
  - Nice pun... and sadly, at this point, it's technically a states' rights  politicat   Sep-15-09 06:28 PM   #64 
  - Or they'll kill a few people.  DCKit   Sep-14-09 01:58 AM   #17 
  - Hey I live in Idaho  BlueIdaho   Sep-13-09 11:02 PM   #2 
  - In some states an LPN can't start an IV without getting specific certification  laughingliberal   Sep-13-09 11:06 PM   #4 
  - starting an IV and drawing blood are very different procedures  northernlights   Sep-14-09 05:31 AM   #29 
     - Anyone with those conditions will have to carry their records  Mariana   Sep-14-09 08:10 AM   #32 
     - Cops don't listen when it will reduce their power.  LiberalFighter   Sep-14-09 07:30 PM   #52 
        - +1 n/t  TroglodyteScholar   Sep-15-09 06:06 PM   #63 
     - The risk in anti-coagulants is primarily internal bleeding.  Ms. Toad   Sep-14-09 08:18 PM   #57 
  - Should cops draw blood when they don't regularly perform such an operation?  LiberalFighter   Sep-13-09 11:11 PM   #5 
  - My guess is that's what it will go to court on. I hope it makes it to the SC again and fails.  Maru Kitteh   Sep-13-09 11:23 PM   #10 
     - If police departments staff their stations with RN's  LiberalFighter   Sep-14-09 07:27 PM   #51 
  - I don't like that idea  brewens   Sep-13-09 11:14 PM   #6 
  - People tolerate  undergroundpanther   Sep-13-09 11:19 PM   #8 
  - Speaking as someone who has passed a field sobriety test, I'm not sure that's entirely true  Hippo_Tron   Sep-14-09 02:30 AM   #20 
  - This is a federal program and it should be  ohheckyeah   Sep-13-09 11:27 PM   #11 
  - Don't any of these cops just want to take their $50,000/year and JUST GO HOME  Mind_your_head   Sep-13-09 11:44 PM   #14 
  - It is really really scary.  LisaL   Sep-14-09 12:53 AM   #16 
  - Cops forcibly draw blood all the time...  BlooInBloo   Sep-14-09 02:09 AM   #18 
  - we do it in WA state. i've done it.  paulsby   Sep-14-09 02:31 AM   #21 
  - How about less public advertising of drugs as fun for kids to do?  Rex   Sep-14-09 02:52 AM   #23 
  - You aren't talking about infringing on corporate free speech are you?  lostnfound   Sep-14-09 07:40 AM   #30 
     - I know, I know, hail to The King  Rex   Sep-14-09 11:42 AM   #40 
  - Ain't gonna happen.  Tx4obama   Sep-14-09 03:06 AM   #25 
  - it's legal in texas as of Sept 1  datasuspect   Sep-14-09 09:16 AM   #35 
  - Than the officer can simply taser you until you submit.  Seldona   Sep-15-09 07:12 PM   #67 
  - I will NEVER allow a cop to draw blood from me  WeDidIt   Sep-14-09 05:20 AM   #27 
  - you can be beaten into compliance  datasuspect   Sep-14-09 09:17 AM   #36 
     - And that is why when the cops ask for donations  PM Martin   Sep-14-09 08:04 PM   #55 
  - They`ll have to kill me or knock me out before they will draw my blood.  daedalus_dude   Sep-14-09 05:24 AM   #28 
  - and they will, unfortunately  Liberal_in_LA   Sep-14-09 02:16 PM   #47 
  - The folks here that are not concerned about this next step should  midnight   Sep-14-09 07:59 AM   #31 
  - No potential WHATSOEVER for abuse of this law...  salguine   Sep-14-09 09:25 AM   #37 
  - They were doing this in Texas a year ago  starroute   Sep-14-09 09:44 AM   #38 
  - "Whaddyamean he's REFUSING to let us jam this needle in his arm?! TASER his ass, NOW!"  Echo In Light   Sep-14-09 11:44 AM   #41 
  - I'm waiting for the first moron to push air in, instead of taking blood out.  Javaman   Sep-14-09 11:46 AM   #42 
  - just not a good idea  dembotoz   Sep-14-09 12:20 PM   #43 
  - straight outta de Sade  GreenArrow   Sep-14-09 12:41 PM   #44 
  - Doesn't make much sense to me...  snooper2   Sep-14-09 01:15 PM   #45 
  - Any non-medical professional draws a needle on me there's gonna be trouble.  Lance_Boyle   Sep-14-09 01:18 PM   #46 
  - Dangerous to our health  Shireling   Sep-14-09 05:49 PM   #49 
  - Sounds like a lot of problems.  Arctic Dave   Sep-14-09 06:07 PM   #50 
  - Don't drink/get high and drive and you don't have to worry about it  madville   Sep-14-09 07:45 PM   #53 
  - Sorry - but that's not the case.  Ms. Toad   Sep-14-09 08:29 PM   #59 
  - Or pissing off that cop the week before...  JuniperLea   Sep-15-09 06:30 PM   #65 
     - Yep.  Ms. Toad   Sep-15-09 07:50 PM   #69 
  - Yeah, that works as long as you drive a late model car and you're  politicat   Sep-15-09 07:35 PM   #68 
  - Unless you have a RN, LPN, CNRP, etc. after your name....  Kaylee   Sep-14-09 08:22 PM   #58 
  - Where will this all end?  followthemoney   Sep-14-09 09:19 PM   #60 

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