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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 09:37 PM
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14. True but the world isn't anything like it ever was before.
Our ability to determine our future decreases in inverse proportion to our numbers. Or, to put it another way, a consensus on virtually any issue becomes more nearly impossible every time another person becomes involved.

I think a reading of DU confirms it.
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  -What could bring manufacturing back to the USA at this point? madville  Sep-13-09 08:57 PM   #0 
  - Protective tariffs would do the trick  tularetom   Sep-13-09 09:01 PM   #1 
  - It's impossible to compete  madville   Sep-13-09 09:05 PM   #3 
  - Our wages indeed, can and ***will*** go lower  astral   Sep-13-09 11:12 PM   #33 
  - deleted  TransitJohn   Sep-14-09 10:04 AM   #60 
  - My view is that the use of the dollar as a global currency  Blue Meany   Sep-14-09 12:24 PM   #71 
  - Agreed. nt  anonymous171   Sep-13-09 09:41 PM   #16 
  - "the depressing of wages to third world levels" BINGO!!!  4_TN_TITANS   Sep-14-09 12:49 PM   #72 
  - Higher fuel prices......they're coming......you'll see. n/t  theophilus   Sep-13-09 09:03 PM   #2 
  - quit buying the cheap shit from china. just gonna break in a day or so  seabeyond   Sep-13-09 09:07 PM   #4 
  - Earth people have now pretty much put 'cheap' at the top of their priority list.  Pangolin2   Sep-13-09 09:07 PM   #5 
  - Open Source software demonstrates price isn't everything.  bigmonkey   Sep-14-09 11:57 AM   #69 
     - Well, maybe but I think it's a little different than with hard goods. I guess you're thinking of  Pangolin2   Sep-14-09 04:08 PM   #78 
        - As I see it, as a 10 year user, the reaction is very anomalous.  bigmonkey   Sep-14-09 06:37 PM   #80 
  - Personally, I think that labor has to take it in its own hands.  abumbyanyothername   Sep-13-09 09:12 PM   #6 
  - Tariffs, and huge tax penalties on any U.S. company that moves its operations out of the country.  scarletwoman   Sep-13-09 09:12 PM   #7 
  - +1  Raineyb   Sep-14-09 12:03 PM   #70 
     - still wont help you compete much  Djinn   Sep-15-09 04:25 AM   #82 
  - Mandating automobile purchasing from private companies  Oregone   Sep-13-09 09:13 PM   #8 
  - We could make everything we need right here at home  madville   Sep-13-09 09:15 PM   #9 
  - True but the world isn't anything like it ever was before.  Pangolin2   Sep-13-09 09:37 PM   #14 
  - I made a post about that once  Juche   Sep-13-09 09:19 PM   #10 
  - Bingo...  WCGreen   Sep-14-09 08:32 AM   #55 
  - Several things  Warpy   Sep-13-09 09:22 PM   #11 
  - That thing about the railroads -  Mopar151   Sep-13-09 10:02 PM   #18 
  - There already exists an integrated highway/rail shipping system.  elleng   Sep-13-09 10:29 PM   #23 
     - The roadbeds need expansion and upgrades  Warpy   Sep-13-09 10:36 PM   #27 
        - Railroads are in charge of their roadbeds, some do better than others,  elleng   Sep-13-09 11:10 PM   #32 
           - Part of the problem!  Mopar151   Sep-14-09 09:14 AM   #56 
              - Oh yeah, just like the airlines!  elleng   Sep-14-09 11:46 AM   #68 
                 - How hard is it to ship by rail?  Mopar151   Sep-14-09 02:18 PM   #74 
                    - Sorry that I've never been a 'shipper,'  elleng   Sep-14-09 03:43 PM   #76 
  - Oil prices high enough to make shipping too expensive. nt  Speck Tater   Sep-13-09 09:28 PM   #12 
  - US penalizing any company that outsources...  dbonds   Sep-13-09 09:34 PM   #13 
  - The PTB don't want manufacturing back in this country....  wildbilln864   Sep-13-09 09:40 PM   #15 
  - Not only in money  Mopar151   Sep-13-09 10:04 PM   #19 
     - Yep. They want us to become a service economy.  anonymous171   Sep-13-09 10:07 PM   #20 
  - Tariff by weight  izquierdista   Sep-13-09 09:43 PM   #17 
  - Higher petroleum prices  Canuckistanian   Sep-13-09 10:25 PM   #21 
  - The incentive to bring jobs back to the US can be summed up thusly:  Stinky The Clown   Sep-13-09 10:27 PM   #22 
  - so all the world has third world wages. then what?  Hannah Bell   Sep-14-09 01:42 AM   #49 
     - You've misdirected your query  Stinky The Clown   Sep-14-09 07:42 AM   #51 
  - Fiscal Policy  Octafish   Sep-13-09 10:32 PM   #24 
  - We could send our government to other countries and they can give the  mmonk   Sep-13-09 10:36 PM   #25 
  - Stop buying them.  kentuck   Sep-13-09 10:36 PM   #26 
  - When the dollar becomes so weak that other countries goods are too expensive....  debbierlus   Sep-13-09 10:39 PM   #28 
  - Two Very Big Things Could Make A Big Change, madville.  David Zephyr   Sep-13-09 10:39 PM   #29 
  - Confiscating corporate assets & throwing officers in jail.  Vidar   Sep-13-09 10:40 PM   #30 
  - lower wages. That's why they leave isn't it?  cbdo2007   Sep-13-09 10:42 PM   #31 
  - Outside of a total collapse of manufacturing everywhere else in the world, nothing.  old mark   Sep-13-09 11:37 PM   #34 
  - Wish I could rec this post of yours!  TransitJohn   Sep-14-09 01:05 PM   #73 
  - Make outsourcing illegal?  Initech   Sep-13-09 11:39 PM   #35 
  - The next level++ of applied physics would do well to invite contributions to any innovation...  bridgit   Sep-13-09 11:41 PM   #36 
  - Stop buying the crap made in China  Hansel   Sep-14-09 12:01 AM   #37 
  - ...15 years ago.  omega minimo   Sep-14-09 12:08 AM   #40 
  - An end to corporate personhood and corporate welfare and corporate control of elections.  omega minimo   Sep-14-09 12:07 AM   #38 
  - People giving a shit about where their stuff comes from, coupled with  flvegan   Sep-14-09 12:08 AM   #39 
  - Nothing.  Chan790   Sep-14-09 12:13 AM   #41 
  - High tarrifs would be awesome actually.  anonymous171   Sep-14-09 01:05 AM   #45 
     - Except that we lack the majority of raw materials required to produce high-tech devices...  Chan790   Sep-14-09 10:25 AM   #64 
  - Stringent rules: For every job created overseas, an equal number must be created here...  DRoseDARs   Sep-14-09 12:26 AM   #42 
  - Old time tarrifss, like we had for over 200 years  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-14-09 12:28 AM   #43 
  - Well. let's see now,,,,,,,,  winyanstaz   Sep-14-09 12:57 AM   #44 
  - Wages suppressed to Chinese levels- 120 dollars a month for factory workers  kenny blankenship   Sep-14-09 01:06 AM   #46 
  - The answers lay in the direction of the next level,,,we start thinking as a group and look for group  opihimoimoi   Sep-14-09 01:28 AM   #47 
  - Break everybody's stuff, so they buy more stuff /nt  jberryhill   Sep-14-09 01:41 AM   #48 
  - bury the dollar, lower our standard of living  tranche   Sep-14-09 01:50 AM   #50 
  - An act of God/Goddess. nt  raccoon   Sep-14-09 08:00 AM   #52 
  - Worker-owned shops & cooperatives. n/t  rucky   Sep-14-09 08:01 AM   #53 
  - Manufacturing is fine in Europe and Canada. Paying high wages is not a problem.  pampango   Sep-14-09 08:25 AM   #54 
  - Ron Bloom, Obama's totally awsome car czar and manufacturing czar! nt  HamdenRice   Sep-14-09 09:33 AM   #57 
  - 1hr wages?  endarkenment   Sep-14-09 09:34 AM   #58 
  - Repeal NAFTA  showpan   Sep-14-09 10:52 AM   #66 
     - ........  bigwillq   Sep-14-09 10:57 AM   #67 
  - Tax policy rewrite  n2doc   Sep-14-09 09:51 AM   #59 
  - Agree on a tax policy rewrite, but a return to progressive taxation by itself would help.  pampango   Sep-14-09 10:13 AM   #63 
  - Make domestic wages partially deductible.  Xithras   Sep-14-09 04:01 PM   #77 
  - Block all goods from the Chinese Poison Train from entering the country.  TransitJohn   Sep-14-09 10:05 AM   #61 
  - What brought it here in the first place.  Gregorian   Sep-14-09 10:05 AM   #62 
  - Turning back the clock is always a popular choice. My favorite would be to clone Mao  pampango   Sep-14-09 10:42 AM   #65 
  - MicroSoft.  BuyingThyme   Sep-14-09 02:19 PM   #75 
  - Do what they do in the EU  sentelle   Sep-14-09 04:10 PM   #79 
  - We need to start enforcing anti-trust laws.  surrealAmerican   Sep-14-09 08:07 PM   #81 
 

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