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35. Good economics.....
...reduces the army of the unemployed, and....

Not everyone who joins the military ends up in combat.
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  Is it ethical to counsel young people to join the military? mix  Sep-13-09 11:02 AM   #0 
   those commercials getting to you, too?  Tuesday Afternoon   Sep-13-09 11:04 AM   #1 
   No TV, but I can imagine.  mix   Sep-13-09 11:15 AM   #2 
      Working as designed.  The Gunslinger   Sep-13-09 03:52 PM   #66 
   Yes, it is ethical to counsel young people about the PROS and CONS of joining the military.  rd_kent   Sep-13-09 11:18 AM   #3 
   Under different circumstances, I might agree with your even handed approach.  mix   Sep-13-09 11:26 AM   #5 
   +1  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 12:57 PM   #28 
   Yes  Lost-in-FL   Sep-13-09 11:26 AM   #4 
   Yes, I do respect those inside the military who spoke out, particularly in the JAG corps. nt  mix   Sep-13-09 12:13 PM   #9 
   My son will be a JAG after he finishes law school. And thank goodness there are liberal  DevonRex   Sep-13-09 02:04 PM   #52 
   Correction  Lost-in-FL   Sep-13-09 12:30 PM   #13 
   Absolutely!  Catch22Dem   Sep-13-09 12:02 PM   #6 
   I understand your viewpoint...  mix   Sep-13-09 12:11 PM   #7 
      I should have been clearer  Catch22Dem   Sep-13-09 12:53 PM   #23 
   I'll go further than that  WeDidIt   Sep-13-09 12:13 PM   #8 
   How so? nt  mix   Sep-13-09 12:13 PM   #10 
      Young people WILL meet recruiters  WeDidIt   Sep-13-09 01:59 PM   #49 
   Not now. Back in the 80s, the military was a way to an education and decent career  Nikki Stone1   Sep-13-09 12:14 PM   #11 
   So....  Cid_B   Sep-13-09 12:27 PM   #12 
   But isn't that the essence of a volunteer military?  mix   Sep-13-09 12:42 PM   #15 
   Exactly.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-13-09 12:46 PM   #17 
   You play the odds. One 18-month tour, you've got a shot at coming back. 3,4,5 tours  Nikki Stone1   Sep-13-09 12:45 PM   #16 
   Not in the Navy  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-13-09 12:50 PM   #19 
   You got me there. :)  Nikki Stone1   Sep-13-09 12:54 PM   #25 
   The odds are quite good actually  TxRider   Sep-13-09 01:03 PM   #32 
   You caught that too.  Brooklyns_Finest   Sep-13-09 12:58 PM   #30 
      Right there with you...  Cid_B   Sep-13-09 01:39 PM   #47 
   Even in the 80s  noamnety   Sep-13-09 02:12 PM   #53 
      White supremacists, militia members...I wonder how many got their start in the armed services? nt  mix   Sep-13-09 02:14 PM   #54 
   My godson joined when he was 17 and I counseled him to think seriously about it.  elocs   Sep-13-09 12:36 PM   #14 
   Killing people for money is a moral evil, not a valid career path.  LeftyMom   Sep-13-09 12:48 PM   #18 
   Ten years a Sailor, and I never killed a single person.  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-13-09 12:51 PM   #22 
   So you were providing support services for those who did the killing?  LeftyMom   Sep-13-09 12:54 PM   #24 
   I was in 13 years and didn't provide support for killing  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 01:04 PM   #33 
   I was attached to two squadrons, and one shore duty command.  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-13-09 01:06 PM   #34 
   I served for 6 years and no killing.  Lost-in-FL   Sep-13-09 01:34 PM   #46 
   25 years in the Navy, never fired a shot at anyone.  Thothmes   Sep-14-09 06:53 AM   #83 
   Militaries do kill people but they also act as deterrents  Hippo_Tron   Sep-13-09 01:00 PM   #31 
   Even to stop genocide in bosnia?  Pavulon   Sep-13-09 01:18 PM   #40 
   So armed forces are a "moral evil"?  proteus_lives   Sep-13-09 03:58 PM   #69 
   i would counsel the scions of wealth, children of privilege, and republicans to enlist  datasuspect   Sep-13-09 12:51 PM   #20 
   I think 99% of war is unethical  lunatica   Sep-13-09 12:51 PM   #21 
   Without a doubt, yes  michreject   Sep-13-09 12:55 PM   #26 
   Nothing wrong with joining the military.  proteus_lives   Sep-13-09 12:56 PM   #27 
   My little brother just joined the air force  Nikia   Sep-13-09 12:58 PM   #29 
   Good economics.....  suston96   Sep-13-09 01:09 PM   #35 
   I believe that to show them commercials in which they are given  HysteryDiagnosis   Sep-13-09 01:09 PM   #36 
   In some cases...  57_TomCat   Sep-14-09 08:49 AM   #87 
   If the kid is your neighbor and has been making your life a living hell with  alfredo   Sep-13-09 01:10 PM   #37 
   Our post WWII military has shown itself to be incompetent and corrupt  Retired AF Dem   Sep-13-09 01:11 PM   #38 
   The military is a great choice  Shrek   Sep-13-09 01:16 PM   #39 
   In the abstract, yes it is a "great choice."  mix   Sep-13-09 01:27 PM   #42 
   I have some friends whose son became a marine.  undeterred   Sep-13-09 01:25 PM   #41 
   Yes, it is ethical. Full disclosure is required in counseling the possibility of joining.  aikoaiko   Sep-13-09 01:31 PM   #43 
   If my son asks me then I will give him my honest opinion.  zoff   Sep-13-09 01:31 PM   #44 
   I always counsel them to find something useful to do instead.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-13-09 01:34 PM   #45 
   What do you tell them millions who have served and aren't sorry?  proteus_lives   Sep-13-09 02:02 PM   #51 
      Pretty much the same thing.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-13-09 03:26 PM   #58 
         Well, that doesn't make sense.  proteus_lives   Sep-13-09 03:51 PM   #65 
            Yep. 4 years of doing absolutely nothing beneficial to anyone.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-13-09 03:56 PM   #68 
               My personal exposure to the armed forces has led me to believe that...  proteus_lives   Sep-13-09 04:04 PM   #72 
               Pieced together a little girls head and took in some IEDs last week...  Cid_B   Sep-13-09 04:46 PM   #76 
   I wouldn't want a young person to sign up *without* counseling.  Orsino   Sep-13-09 01:42 PM   #48 
   On another (apolitical) forum last month  noamnety   Sep-13-09 01:59 PM   #50 
   Wow. Can you tell me where to find some of those statistics?  Mariana   Sep-13-09 03:25 PM   #57 
      I'd advise him to check out the Navy, Air Force or Coast Guard  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 03:30 PM   #60 
      The first thing I'd recommend  noamnety   Sep-13-09 05:39 PM   #77 
         Thank you so much!  Mariana   Sep-13-09 11:43 PM   #82 
   I give this a rec  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 02:59 PM   #55 
   no  Bill McBlueState   Sep-13-09 03:18 PM   #56 
   How about the last 200+ years?  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 03:28 PM   #59 
   You mean Manifest Destiny?  mix   Sep-13-09 03:32 PM   #61 
      Yes plus the Mexican and Spanish-American Wars  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 03:35 PM   #62 
      What about the Civil War?  proteus_lives   Sep-13-09 03:47 PM   #63 
         Another one of our military's finest moments.  mix   Sep-13-09 03:48 PM   #64 
         A political vision that would have been nothing without people to make it a reality.  proteus_lives   Sep-13-09 03:54 PM   #67 
         Many Civil War vets went on to fight in the Indian Wars  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 04:01 PM   #71 
            There wouldn't be any countries without warfare.  proteus_lives   Sep-13-09 04:05 PM   #74 
               True  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 04:07 PM   #75 
   All brought to you by those you elect.  Pavulon   Sep-13-09 03:58 PM   #70 
      True  Kaleva   Sep-13-09 04:05 PM   #73 
      Correct. nt  anonymous171   Sep-13-09 05:47 PM   #79 
      +++1  Lost-in-FL   Sep-13-09 06:15 PM   #80 
   The Military > Business School, imo. nt  anonymous171   Sep-13-09 05:46 PM   #78 
   Absolutely, just as I would counsel a kid to go into education  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-13-09 06:19 PM   #81 
   You are offended by my question, you should be offended by how much we spend on the military...  mix   Sep-16-09 09:30 PM   #91 
   Does "counsel" necessarily = encourage? Than a big NO  Echo In Light   Sep-14-09 07:13 AM   #84 
   Yes, I should have been more clear: counsel=encourage. nt  mix   Sep-14-09 07:14 AM   #85 
   Absolutely.  57_TomCat   Sep-14-09 08:29 AM   #86 
   It's a complicated question  sea four   Sep-14-09 09:18 AM   #88 
   Not while we're indulging in unjust wars.  Vidar   Sep-14-09 09:21 AM   #89 
   Counsel does not equal "convince".  rucky   Sep-14-09 09:23 AM   #90 
   They should know what options are out there, it can be a good deal  madville   Sep-16-09 10:06 PM   #92 
 

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