| 93. Of course you can have an opinion |
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but justify your statement with a rule. Testing positive for a banned substance a second time warrants a lifetime ban per the rules. What Serena did (even if we think it's the worst thing anyone can do) does not warrant it.
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| -Serena Williams defaulted the semi at match point |
DeepBlueC |
Sep-12-09 10:10 PM |
#0 |
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Who ended up winning? Was she going to take the match if she had kept her cool? |
Parker CA |
Sep-12-09 10:13 PM |
#1 |
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No. It was match point, so the code violation ended the match. |
WillowTree |
Sep-12-09 10:21 PM |
#7 |
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Wife had it on in the other room |
tularetom |
Sep-12-09 10:16 PM |
#2 |
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At least people don't die at football games in this country |
harkadog |
Sep-13-09 09:46 PM |
#121 |
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Yet. nt |
Critters2 |
Sep-14-09 12:12 PM |
#152 |
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Football has been going on for nearly a 100 years |
harkadog |
Sep-14-09 01:19 PM |
#169 |
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what's the matter? don't you like our socialist communist fascist soccer??? |
Soylent Brice |
Sep-14-09 05:26 PM |
#176 |
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Tsk. Bad call = officials at fault |
anigbrowl |
Sep-12-09 10:18 PM |
#3 |
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Well you can't say certain things to the ump in baseball either |
rockymountaindem |
Sep-12-09 10:20 PM |
#5 |
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After seeing a replay I think she did it intentionally |
tularetom |
Sep-12-09 10:27 PM |
#10 |
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People used to think it was cute when Macenroe and Connors acted this way. |
jasi2006 |
Sep-13-09 10:27 PM |
#125 |
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that's just utterly wrong == people did not think connors and mcenroe were "cute" |
onenote |
Sep-13-09 11:25 PM |
#128 |
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I don't ever remember anyone thinking it was cute |
BoneDaddy |
Sep-13-09 11:34 PM |
#129 |
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No. People did not think it was cute. |
Iggo |
Sep-14-09 12:10 AM |
#133 |
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Good call. A long suspension is due. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-12-09 11:59 PM |
#25 |
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from what I've read the call was not so good |
nini |
Sep-13-09 12:13 AM |
#27 |
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They won't suspend her but threatening an official is over the line. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 12:13 AM |
#28 |
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Yeah, I'm sure everyone took that literally |
anigbrowl |
Sep-13-09 03:19 AM |
#65 |
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So you have no problem with people threatening other people. Got it. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 07:20 PM |
#75 |
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No, you haven't got it. the point is that not all hyperbole should be taken literally. |
anigbrowl |
Sep-13-09 09:16 PM |
#112 |
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Even if the threat wasn't real, the verbal abuse was. The Grand Slam Committee is considering a ban |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 09:21 PM |
#115 |
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Yes...just as the botched call at a critical point was a failure on the organizers' part. |
anigbrowl |
Sep-13-09 09:31 PM |
#117 |
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That in no way excuses her behavior. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 09:33 PM |
#118 |
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For you, obviously not. |
anigbrowl |
Sep-13-09 10:03 PM |
#123 |
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Or for the Grand Slam Committee that fined her 10k. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 10:11 PM |
#124 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-13-09 11:53 PM |
#132 |
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It looks like Skittles still has a crush on a fireman. I've told you before, I'm happily married. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-14-09 05:32 PM |
#179 |
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Except it's like this in nearly every sport. |
Drunken Irishman |
Sep-14-09 12:15 PM |
# |
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what's the precedent for a LONG suspension |
nini |
Sep-13-09 01:44 PM |
#72 |
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When did Mac and Connors threaten officials? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 07:21 PM |
#76 |
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I'm not against her being punished |
nini |
Sep-13-09 11:41 PM |
#131 |
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McEnroe had a two month suspension. Conners for 10 weeks |
tishaLA |
Sep-13-09 10:49 PM |
#127 |
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You can NOT |
Aragorn |
Sep-14-09 01:15 PM |
#168 |
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About which part? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-14-09 05:17 PM |
#175 |
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Fault! |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-14-09 05:44 PM |
#180 |
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That makes no sense. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-14-09 05:45 PM |
#181 |
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You misunderstand. The foot fault call was bad. |
anigbrowl |
Sep-13-09 03:11 AM |
#63 |
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And if youre not a spoiled brat, you walk to the chair ump and challenge |
joeybee12 |
Sep-13-09 07:54 AM |
#69 |
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players can't challenge foot faults |
fishwax |
Sep-14-09 12:29 PM |
#159 |
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Does this look like a bad call to you? Or does it look like a foot fault? |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-13-09 08:19 PM |
#105 |
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Pretty clearly a foot fault to me. Serena almost admitted as much. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 10:41 PM |
#126 |
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It was not a foot fault. |
cwydro |
Sep-14-09 12:06 PM |
#150 |
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Her foot doesn't have to be over the line, it has to touch the line. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-14-09 05:17 PM |
#174 |
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Why a long suspension? |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 07:24 PM |
#78 |
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Threatening an official. Whatever the USTA or WTA decide. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 07:39 PM |
#80 |
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How long is long? |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 07:42 PM |
#81 |
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Considering the fine maybe a month. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 07:47 PM |
#86 |
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Thank you for your response. |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 07:53 PM |
#88 |
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and a $10,000 fine |
WillieW |
Sep-14-09 04:22 AM |
#141 |
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She could have challenged the call. |
Sugarcoated |
Sep-13-09 01:36 AM |
#54 |
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I don't think you can challenge |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 07:27 PM |
#79 |
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Officials need to be held accountable when they fuck up |
jakefrep |
Sep-13-09 07:43 PM |
#82 |
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What about verbal abuse or threats? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 09:34 PM |
#119 |
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The official deserved it. |
jakefrep |
Sep-14-09 07:27 AM |
#142 |
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Officials need to be held accountable when they fuck up |
jakefrep |
Sep-13-09 07:43 PM |
#83 |
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Pity she lost it |
malaise |
Sep-12-09 10:20 PM |
#4 |
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Venus is way more introverted... |
Kazak |
Sep-14-09 05:47 PM |
#182 |
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I thought the foot fault was apparent, actually |
NWHarkness |
Sep-12-09 10:20 PM |
#6 |
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Replay didn't show foot fault, did it? nt |
jasi2006 |
Sep-12-09 10:25 PM |
#8 |
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I didn't think so, but it wasn't the best camera angle. In the end, too close for me to call. |
WillowTree |
Sep-12-09 10:27 PM |
#9 |
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hence, the line judge. n/t |
miyazaki |
Sep-12-09 11:55 PM |
#21 |
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It was obvious to me. At least an inch or two over. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-12-09 11:57 PM |
#23 |
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Yes! Way to go, Kimmie! |
Cetacea |
Sep-12-09 10:34 PM |
#11 |
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A great tennis match ended by anger. |
spin |
Sep-12-09 10:39 PM |
#12 |
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Williams was far from her peak |
Dreamer Tatum |
Sep-12-09 10:43 PM |
#13 |
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Yes, Serena Williams might have been able to win... |
spin |
Sep-13-09 12:00 PM |
#70 |
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Did she call him a liar? |
BlueIdaho |
Sep-12-09 10:45 PM |
#14 |
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..and then denied that she had threatened the official in the post-meltdown presser... |
truebrit71 |
Sep-12-09 11:16 PM |
#15 |
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but it all makes sense, dontcha know... |
DeepBlueC |
Sep-12-09 11:21 PM |
#16 |
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Yeah, I know |
rockymountaindem |
Sep-12-09 11:51 PM |
#20 |
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Sharapova doesn't have game. LOL |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-12-09 11:58 PM |
#24 |
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A 6 month suspension should do the trick. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 01:07 AM |
#43 |
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Ain't gonna happen. |
cwydro |
Sep-14-09 12:15 PM |
#153 |
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I agree. We'll see what the Grand Slam Committee says though. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-14-09 05:30 PM |
#178 |
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She was getting spanked on the court. Should have taken her thumping |
geek tragedy |
Sep-12-09 11:26 PM |
#17 |
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yep |
DeepBlueC |
Sep-12-09 11:29 PM |
#18 |
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Video |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-12-09 11:45 PM |
#19 |
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oooh... thanks for that |
DeepBlueC |
Sep-13-09 12:01 AM |
#26 |
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Her behavior was inexcusable. She deserves a long suspension. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-12-09 11:57 PM |
#22 |
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"Should I even bother to play? You just want me to lose?" |
hfojvt |
Sep-13-09 12:15 AM |
#29 |
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"I'm going to shove this ball down your fucking throat." She deserves worse. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 12:34 AM |
#30 |
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Funny, people never said stuff like that when McEnroe used to throw |
Raineyb |
Sep-13-09 12:36 AM |
#31 |
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When did he tell a linesman he was going to shove a ball down their fucking throat? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 12:37 AM |
#32 |
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Right because flinging rackets is less dangerous than words. n/t |
Raineyb |
Sep-13-09 12:43 AM |
#33 |
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Of course I never said it was. Nice try though. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 12:46 AM |
#34 |
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My point's been made. That it went over your head is unsurprising. n/t |
Raineyb |
Sep-13-09 12:47 AM |
#35 |
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I got it. Assaulting officials is fine by you. Sorry I rarely understand idiocy. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 12:49 AM |
#36 |
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Or when Jimmy Connors did it either. |
GOPNotForMe |
Sep-13-09 01:07 AM |
#42 |
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Calling someone a son of a bitch and threatening them are 2 entirely different things. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 01:09 AM |
#44 |
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OK that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious threat but an outburst. |
GOPNotForMe |
Sep-13-09 01:11 AM |
#45 |
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She broke the rules twice resulting in a point. She was losing anyway. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 01:13 AM |
#46 |
| -
Are you saying that a penalty wouldn't have been called on any player that said that to an official? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 01:14 AM |
#49 |
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I have watched a fair amount of tennis |
hfojvt |
Sep-13-09 01:22 AM |
#52 |
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I didn't support Serena's melt down but |
malaise |
Sep-13-09 06:15 AM |
#66 |
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Sure they did |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-13-09 06:53 AM |
#68 |
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if you think mcenroe would've gotten away with what williams did you obviously didn't follow tennis |
onenote |
Sep-13-09 11:37 PM |
#130 |
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Are you sure she said that? What is your source? |
hfojvt |
Sep-13-09 12:56 AM |
#38 |
| -
Here you go. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 12:57 AM |
#39 |
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She was wrong. But read the comments in that article you linked. The racial stuff flying hard. |
dolphindance |
Sep-13-09 01:14 AM |
#48 |
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Tiger wouldn't do anything that stupid. I've never seen Venus threaten a linesman. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 01:15 AM |
#50 |
| -
Tiger Woods is untouchable. |
hfojvt |
Sep-13-09 01:48 AM |
#56 |
| -
The comments are simply wrong and unfortunate. |
suzie |
Sep-13-09 06:42 AM |
#67 |
| -
Well... |
MellowDem |
Sep-13-09 08:11 PM |
#100 |
| -
and another. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 01:01 AM |
#40 |
| -
yep, that is pretty clear and waaaay over the line |
hfojvt |
Sep-13-09 01:14 AM |
#47 |
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The she went on to say she had no idea how the line judge would have felt threatened. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 01:05 AM |
#41 |
| -
yeah, that was pretty silly |
hfojvt |
Sep-13-09 01:40 AM |
#55 |
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Slightly different footage on ESPN web page. See here. |
WillowTree |
Sep-13-09 01:21 AM |
#51 |
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The umpire called the lineswoman over |
Sugarcoated |
Sep-13-09 01:31 AM |
#53 |
| -
Yeah, but someone here thinks she deserves a 6 mos. suspension. |
dolphindance |
Sep-13-09 01:50 AM |
#57 |
| -
That sounds extreme |
Sugarcoated |
Sep-13-09 01:54 AM |
#58 |
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O good grief...... |
WillowTree |
Sep-13-09 02:19 AM |
#61 |
| -
you got to be joking right, she went over the line and will be appropriately punished |
vadawg |
Sep-13-09 03:14 AM |
#64 |
| -
Who are you referring to? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 07:22 PM |
#77 |
| -
What a crock of shit... |
TK421 |
Sep-13-09 08:37 PM |
#108 |
| -
I guess the Grand Slam Committee is full of racists then. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 08:46 PM |
#109 |
| -
Total crock |
BoneDaddy |
Sep-14-09 08:37 AM |
#143 |
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Colour of the skin isn't a factor...the athlete told the official "I will assault you"... |
truebrit71 |
Sep-14-09 11:22 AM |
#145 |
| -
Love your creative use of quotation marks. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-14-09 12:58 PM |
#162 |
| -
Huh? |
truebrit71 |
Sep-14-09 01:38 PM |
#170 |
| -
Did Serena say the words "I will assault you"? |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-14-09 05:12 PM |
#173 |
| -
I'll come over there and shove this tennis ball down your fucking throat, so help me God. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-14-09 05:48 PM |
#183 |
| -
I could swear that I *said* I agreed that the UC call was correct. Relax already! |
WillowTree |
Sep-13-09 02:18 AM |
#60 |
| -
I know what you said |
Sugarcoated |
Sep-14-09 08:12 PM |
#185 |
| -
McEnroe swore at a linesman in a 1981 match |
mr1956 |
Sep-13-09 12:51 AM |
#37 |
| -
On a somewhat lighter note, the best "outburst" I ever heard in a tennis match... |
WillowTree |
Sep-13-09 02:16 AM |
#59 |
| -
I don't watch a lot of tennis |
fujiyama |
Sep-13-09 03:04 AM |
#62 |
| -
I think she did it on purpose. |
MellowDem |
Sep-13-09 12:06 PM |
#71 |
| -
I have no idea what was on her mind. But her losing it at match point certainly took the glory off |
LisaL |
Sep-13-09 01:48 PM |
#73 |
| -
I think that was the point as well... |
MellowDem |
Sep-13-09 02:06 PM |
#74 |
| -
Jeez, if you think Serena threw the match at that point you sure don't know Serena! n/t |
Jackeens |
Sep-13-09 07:44 PM |
#84 |
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I'm assuming you don't either... |
MellowDem |
Sep-13-09 08:19 PM |
#103 |
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dupe nt |
MellowDem |
Sep-13-09 08:19 PM |
#104 |
| -
I think she should be banned from tennis permanently. |
Pangolin2 |
Sep-13-09 07:46 PM |
#85 |
| -
Really? Why? |
tekisui |
Sep-13-09 07:49 PM |
#87 |
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For being an arrogant twit, I suppose. |
Pangolin2 |
Sep-13-09 07:59 PM |
#90 |
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That doesn't warrant a lifetime ban. |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 08:01 PM |
# |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-13-09 08:06 PM |
#96 |
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And what do you mean |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 08:08 PM |
#99 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-13-09 09:16 PM |
#111 |
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That would leave about 3 players on the pro tennis circuit. |
Jackeens |
Sep-13-09 08:02 PM |
#92 |
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Fine by me. |
Pangolin2 |
Sep-13-09 08:05 PM |
#95 |
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But we'd only have one and a half semi-finals. |
Jackeens |
Sep-13-09 08:07 PM |
#98 |
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She didn't do anything ban-worthy. |
tekisui |
Sep-13-09 08:14 PM |
#101 |
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She got fined 10K (the max) |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 08:18 PM |
#102 |
| -
That all sounds reasonable. |
tekisui |
Sep-13-09 08:19 PM |
#106 |
| -
I think it's reasonable too. |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 08:31 PM |
#107 |
| -
Supporters of Joe Wilson (I am not one) say the same thing. |
Pangolin2 |
Sep-13-09 09:41 PM |
#120 |
| -
I think she should be punished, as I said a fine and a suspension |
tekisui |
Sep-13-09 09:52 PM |
#122 |
| -
Wow, not much gets by you, does it? |
Pangolin2 |
Sep-13-09 09:18 PM |
#113 |
| -
The Grand Slam Committee is considering a ban. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-13-09 09:27 PM |
#116 |
| -
Why? |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 07:55 PM |
#89 |
| -
I just said what I think, not what the rulebook provides for. Uh, I -am- allowed to have |
Pangolin2 |
Sep-13-09 08:01 PM |
#91 |
| -
Of course you can have an opinion |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 08:02 PM |
#93 |
| -
Now I have to cite a rule to have an opinion? Remind me again just what fucking country this is...? |
Pangolin2 |
Sep-13-09 08:04 PM |
#94 |
| -
But the only answer you did give was that she was a twit |
bigwillq |
Sep-13-09 08:07 PM |
#97 |
| -
Never had so much trouble with the English language. I clearly noted, and you concurred |
Pangolin2 |
Sep-13-09 09:20 PM |
#114 |
| -
My issue was never with your opinion. |
bigwillq |
Sep-14-09 09:55 AM |
#144 |
| -
Any form of verbal abuse must not be tolerated. Period. |
zoff |
Sep-13-09 08:51 PM |
#110 |
| -
This is a long thread, and I'm trying to figure out why I give a shit. |
Blue-Jay |
Sep-14-09 12:16 AM |
#134 |
| -
Appreciating sportsmanlike behavior |
DeepBlueC |
Sep-14-09 12:20 AM |
#135 |
| -
SERENA's contrite heartfelt APOLOGY to the lineswoman: |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-14-09 03:02 AM |
#136 |
| -
I guess I'm missing where she mentions the lineswoman |
tishaLA |
Sep-14-09 04:04 AM |
#139 |
| -
Oh. She must have forgotten the apology part of the apology. |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-14-09 04:08 AM |
#140 |
| -
lol |
Drunken Irishman |
Sep-14-09 12:15 PM |
#155 |
| -
Doesn't matter. As you can see in this thread, *nothing* will satisfy people... |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-14-09 12:59 PM |
#163 |
| -
Did she have Apology, Part 2? |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-14-09 05:11 PM |
#172 |
| -
Won't be the first tennis player who lost it on a judge. |
Rex |
Sep-14-09 03:04 AM |
#137 |
| -
Serena went a bit over the top |
LatteLibertine |
Sep-14-09 03:20 AM |
#138 |
| -
This seems really uncharacteristic of Serena. She should be strongly admonished, |
Romulox |
Sep-14-09 11:28 AM |
#146 |
| -
She was fined. |
bigwillq |
Sep-14-09 11:41 AM |
#148 |
| -
She probably cost herself a lot of future calls as well |
Gator_Matt |
Sep-14-09 11:37 AM |
#147 |
| -
Another nice apology this morning. Unfortunately she is about to discover.... |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-14-09 11:49 AM |
#149 |
| -
Your OP is incorrect. |
cwydro |
Sep-14-09 12:09 PM |
#151 |
| -
The OP should be fined and suspended. |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-14-09 12:15 PM |
#154 |
| -
Banned for life (nt) |
bigwillq |
Sep-14-09 12:16 PM |
#156 |
| -
Lose all her commercial endorsements. |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Sep-14-09 12:23 PM |
#157 |
| -
Be forced to watch only Glenn Beck |
bigwillq |
Sep-14-09 12:25 PM |
#158 |
| -
lol! |
cwydro |
Sep-14-09 12:33 PM |
#160 |
| -
oopsie |
DeepBlueC |
Sep-14-09 01:04 PM |
#164 |
| -
It makes a huge difference |
Renew Deal |
Sep-14-09 01:10 PM |
#167 |
| -
She may have lost on points |
DeepBlueC |
Sep-14-09 04:54 PM |
#171 |
| -
if I could still edit the text... |
DeepBlueC |
Sep-14-09 05:26 PM |
#177 |
| -
I think Serena should withdraw from every major tourney |
Mosby |
Sep-14-09 12:39 PM |
#161 |
| -
There is a review system |
bigwillq |
Sep-14-09 01:05 PM |
#165 |
| -
people watch tennis |
snooper2 |
Sep-14-09 01:06 PM |
#166 |
| -
Looks like her foot's on the tape to me. |
immoderate |
Sep-14-09 06:07 PM |
#184 |
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