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57. why should i go into the details of my families history and beliefs with someone i dont know
do we now become like the fascists and demand that everyone conform to what the majority belief is, or is there still space for minority religious and cultural beliefs, i guess we should force the Amish kids to watch TV as well as mine...
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  -Censorship sparks outrage, call to replace school board members Liberty Belle  Sep-08-09 10:50 PM   #0 
  - all the schools have to do is show the speech and allow opt outs for parents  vadawg   Sep-08-09 10:52 PM   #1 
  - Why must we pander by allowing opt outs from those ignorant  Liberty Belle   Sep-08-09 10:58 PM   #4 
  - scuse me, there are a myriad of reasons why parents might not want their kids to watch  vadawg   Sep-08-09 11:02 PM   #7 
  - What were the reasons your kids withdrew from watching?  defendandprotect   Sep-08-09 11:11 PM   #11 
  - myself and my wife decided to withdraw them for the day, as did lots of others  vadawg   Sep-08-09 11:13 PM   #12 
  - But that didn't answer the question.  parasim   Sep-08-09 11:16 PM   #13 
  - i think i explained it pretty well, myself and my wife made the decision to withdraw our kids  vadawg   Sep-08-09 11:19 PM   #16 
     - Why?  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-08-09 11:41 PM   #22 
     - you and me kansas always disagree on everything, but as a teacher  vadawg   Sep-08-09 11:44 PM   #25 
        - But what was political in Obama's speech? He was just encouraging them  tblue37   Sep-09-09 12:16 AM   #36 
        - okay, but hes still a politician and for some people it really is render unto caesar  vadawg   Sep-09-09 12:21 AM   #39 
        - Then you are making a decision based on politics.  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 01:14 AM   #63 
        - and i respect your choices as a parent, but we differ on the political thing  vadawg   Sep-09-09 01:29 AM   #73 
        - What do you think is the difference?  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 01:36 AM   #78 
           - i think you are missing the point, its not an emotional thing  vadawg   Sep-09-09 01:41 AM   #82 
              - There is a church/state separation..  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 01:58 AM   #89 
              - we are never going to agree, but at least i thank you for not being abusive  vadawg   Sep-09-09 02:02 AM   #91 
              - And in America, we respect people's right to choose how their kids get educated.  merwin   Sep-09-09 02:24 AM   #96 
                 - Interesting post . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 01:52 PM   #150 
                 - I would have no problem with the Pope giving an address  Hansel   Sep-09-09 02:33 PM   #161 
              - Your example . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 01:25 PM   #145 
              - How does your children study current events, history, or social studies?  me b zola   Sep-09-09 02:24 PM   #156 
              - So, you always routinely pulled your children out of school  SemperEadem   Sep-09-09 02:45 PM   #166 
        - Um, wanting the lack of politics in school is the opposite of authoritarian.  merwin   Sep-09-09 01:33 AM   #75 
           - So you don't want children to be exposed to any political ideas..  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 01:45 AM   #83 
           - He has already said otherwise.  merwin   Sep-09-09 02:25 AM   #97 
           - No I don't think it goes against any religious/cultural beliefs  Raineyb   Sep-09-09 05:49 PM   #197 
           - i believe his reasoning is: he doesn't want the president to be "advising" his children  Hannah Bell   Sep-10-09 04:17 AM   #207 
           - i do not get the parent that teaches child to put hands over ears in an educational, academic  seabeyond   Sep-09-09 06:42 AM   #111 
           - as the first african american president, everything obama does  noiretextatique   Sep-09-09 04:42 PM   #188 
              - That would be racial overcompensation.  merwin   Sep-11-09 03:45 AM   #227 
        - "...give over all control of our kids to some State appointed guardian"  janx   Sep-09-09 02:14 AM   #94 
        - i guess the point is being lost, civics is fine, so is historical politics etc  vadawg   Sep-09-09 02:21 AM   #95 
           - "but at least let us keep our culture"  foo_bar   Sep-09-09 07:49 AM   #122 
        - Do your children ever watch television if you are not in the room?  goclark   Sep-09-09 12:44 PM   #141 
        - Wow....your reason for pulling your children out of school  Jazzgirl   Sep-09-09 12:56 PM   #142 
        - We're just trying to understand your viewpoint . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 01:20 PM   #144 
        - Look, I agree in general with what you're saying. But the problem  liberalhistorian   Sep-09-09 01:45 PM   #149 
           - I think we have a way to go before we understand all sides here . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:06 PM   #152 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-09-09 12:32 AM   #42 
           - kthxbai.  tblue37   Sep-09-09 12:33 AM   #44 
        - How is this mixing politics?  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-09-09 04:57 AM   #104 
        - this is political, hes a politician whether you like it or not, president or not  vadawg   Sep-09-09 05:00 AM   #106 
        - No, he is the leader of the country and his speech wasn't the least bit political.  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-09-09 05:10 AM   #107 
        - i am averse to politicians, not to what is happening in the world  vadawg   Sep-09-09 05:16 AM   #108 
           - Okay what did he say that was political?  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-09-09 05:58 AM   #109 
              - You know damn well what his/her motives are.  Solomon   Sep-09-09 07:34 AM   #118 
                 - Now I'm wondering  me b zola   Sep-09-09 02:27 PM   #158 
                 - for real... you see it plainly, too, I see.  SemperEadem   Sep-09-09 02:51 PM   #169 
                 - it cerrtainly seems that way  noiretextatique   Sep-09-09 04:45 PM   #189 
                 - His motives are as plain as the nose on one's face.  Raineyb   Sep-09-09 08:47 PM   #205 
        - no, it wasnt. you can keep saying it. but it wasnt. the political is people like you  seabeyond   Sep-09-09 06:43 AM   #112 
        - guess he's with the teabaggers on this one.  dionysus   Sep-09-09 10:59 AM   #134 
        - that he gets to be. but to feed a lie.... no. it gets called. nt  seabeyond   Sep-09-09 12:05 PM   #138 
        - Unfortunately . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:18 PM   #155 
           - furstly... no, the speech was not political and no one can make it so.... secondly  seabeyond   Sep-09-09 02:57 PM   #173 
              - The speech wasn't "political" . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 03:13 PM   #178 
                 - firstly.... hey. dontcha hate when you have type, especially in title for all to see  seabeyond   Sep-09-09 04:12 PM   #185 
                    - Fox has to become irrelevant -- all MSM has to -- and why are you watching it ??????  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 04:20 PM   #186 
                       - an assumption. i dont watch fox. doesnt mean i dont know what is going on with them  seabeyond   Sep-09-09 04:24 PM   #187 
                          - I'm with you . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 05:39 PM   #193 
        - As we go further along in discussing this . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:12 PM   #154 
        - No, it isn't political and you  Cha   Sep-09-09 02:34 PM   #162 
        - I agree with you . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:09 PM   #153 
           - Yes I wouldn't have wanted them to hear Bush but not for political reasons  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-09-09 04:08 PM   #184 
              - but he was the PRESIDENT!!! what's sauce for the goose, etc.  Hannah Bell   Sep-10-09 04:22 AM   #208 
        - Do you send your kids to a public school? Run by politicians?  GOTV   Sep-09-09 06:44 AM   #113 
        - But what was the reason you kept them out of school???  madokie   Sep-09-09 06:47 AM   #114 
        - I figured it out!  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-09-09 04:07 PM   #183 
        - It should be considered an unexcused absence - no politics, educational, beneficial n/t  AnotherMother4Peace   Sep-09-09 06:42 PM   #202 
     - but.....  la la   Sep-08-09 11:46 PM   #29 
     - Sorry, you have NOT stated your reason.  Liberty Belle   Sep-08-09 11:47 PM   #30 
     - Haha wow, quiet desperation. Find some happiness in life. N/t  newtothegame   Sep-09-09 12:04 AM   #33 
     - so what your saying is the only reason that someone would stop there kids from going to see a pol  vadawg   Sep-09-09 12:07 AM   #34 
     - You could end this Seinfeld controversy by telling us the reason.  Jim Sagle   Sep-09-09 12:31 PM   #140 
     - There's not going to be an explanation because it was racism.  Raineyb   Sep-09-09 10:51 AM   #130 
        - The charge of "racism" in response to every criticism of the president  Hannah Bell   Sep-09-09 02:51 PM   #168 
        - however, the charge sticks here  SemperEadem   Sep-09-09 03:00 PM   #174 
        - i'm not sure how you've determined this. perhaps you'll give your evidence.  Hannah Bell   Sep-09-09 04:04 PM   #182 
        - I'm calling it because that's what I see.  Raineyb   Sep-09-09 05:39 PM   #194 
           - I don't remember any previous occasion on which a president made a national-level  Hannah Bell   Sep-10-09 03:59 AM   #206 
              - Of course you don't need my permission. Just like you didn't need my  Raineyb   Sep-10-09 09:23 PM   #220 
                 - To disagree isn't to dismiss. I have a different opinion from you. I'm not you,  Hannah Bell   Sep-11-09 02:50 AM   #226 
        - I've come to the conclusion  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 06:14 PM   #201 
        - Does his reason matter? Really?  mamaleah   Sep-10-09 05:26 AM   #212 
           - If you're not interested in even pretending to have respect for some of our views  Raineyb   Sep-10-09 09:39 PM   #221 
     - actually, you did not  panzerfaust   Sep-09-09 07:36 AM   #120 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-09-09 08:41 AM   #124 
  - I have a question. Why are you, without fail, on the Freeper side of every single issue?  Maru Kitteh   Sep-08-09 11:44 PM   #26 
  - Noticed that as well. And a few others as of late.  HughBeaumont   Sep-09-09 06:55 AM   #116 
  - Good question! n/t  Spazito   Sep-09-09 11:09 AM   #135 
  - I have noticed the same thing Kitteh.  Jazzgirl   Sep-09-09 01:01 PM   #143 
  - hmm, you withdrew your kids like these teabaggers did, but not for political reasons?  dionysus   Sep-09-09 10:56 AM   #132 
  - He laid it out the other day  Horse with no Name   Sep-08-09 11:28 PM   #18 
     - i think the quote is i dont trust politicians, whether they are the president, prime minister  vadawg   Sep-08-09 11:31 PM   #19 
        - What is magical about telling kids to work hard?  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-08-09 11:43 PM   #23 
        - yep i have no problem with you having an opinion onour decision  vadawg   Sep-08-09 11:45 PM   #28 
        - Fact is, many people here would have gone through with a boycott if GW Bush had decided to speak  merwin   Sep-09-09 12:46 AM   #50 
        - thanks for the rational reply instead of all the accusations  vadawg   Sep-09-09 12:48 AM   #52 
        - I felt a bit of rational response was called for after reading through this.  merwin   Sep-09-09 01:01 AM   #60 
           - Having a DUer admit --  Hell Hath No Fury   Sep-09-09 10:58 AM   #133 
              - It's not the message that was being opposed.  merwin   Sep-09-09 02:55 PM   #171 
                 - Bullshit  Raineyb   Sep-09-09 05:44 PM   #195 
        - Bullshit! Seven or eight months into his first vacation there may have been eye rolling  TheKentuckian   Sep-09-09 03:25 AM   #98 
        - Thank you. I hate it when they present false arguments,  Solomon   Sep-09-09 07:36 AM   #119 
        - Well, the fascist tactics to steal 2000, the fascist rally to stop the vote counting,  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:28 PM   #159 
        - well said! Thank you!  SemperEadem   Sep-09-09 03:04 PM   #177 
        - you cant give it to the left. you dont know. didnt happen. cant say this is cool cause left  seabeyond   Sep-09-09 06:48 AM   #115 
        - I disagree. Most people here wouldn't have given a damn  Uzybone   Sep-09-09 11:42 AM   #137 
        - Absolutely, which I've been pointing out . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:24 PM   #157 
        - So, what you are saying is...  stuball111   Sep-09-09 01:03 AM   #61 
        - lol yeah i guess we all need to have our kids taught as you want them  vadawg   Sep-09-09 01:16 AM   #65 
        - It depends on the "culture" and I think if it's brought out into the public arena  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:35 PM   #163 
        - Please don't insult home schooling.  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 01:30 AM   #74 
        - I think you agree 100% with vadawg on everyting except the "sheltered little ones" part.  merwin   Sep-09-09 01:36 AM   #77 
        - lol sheltered, you have no idea of the education my kids get both at school and at home  vadawg   Sep-09-09 01:38 AM   #79 
        - You are definitely choosing to shelter them..  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 01:50 AM   #86 
        - I wasn't "insulting" it.. read the context of my post.  stuball111   Sep-09-09 01:53 AM   #88 
        - Also agree with you . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:31 PM   #160 
        - I didn't say it shouldn't be your decision  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-09-09 04:53 AM   #103 
           - me, im afraid of nothing, fear has nothing to do with the decision  vadawg   Sep-09-09 04:58 AM   #105 
              - People may be misunderstanding . . . but you're also reluctant to be open . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:40 PM   #164 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-09-09 12:45 AM   #48 
        - You need to take a few minutes and think about..  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 01:20 AM   #68 
        - well going by the posts on this thread who seem to believe that our rights as a minority  vadawg   Sep-09-09 01:24 AM   #70 
           - What right is being taken away from you?  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 01:53 AM   #87 
           - well it seems to be the argument that i dont have the right to remove my kids form school  vadawg   Sep-09-09 02:01 AM   #90 
              - Counter-culture?  Solomon   Sep-09-09 07:38 AM   #121 
              - well...what the hell could it possibly be, except race?  noiretextatique   Sep-09-09 04:47 PM   #190 
                 - I can come up with no other reason.  Raineyb   Sep-09-09 05:59 PM   #200 
              - That's two more seemingly religious arguments . . . in your thinking .. .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:44 PM   #165 
           - may i ask what minority you are? sincere question. i tend to agree with  Hannah Bell   Sep-09-09 03:44 AM   #99 
              - Agree with you, completely . . . and your question ..... !!  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:45 PM   #167 
        - As much as I am freaked out by the insane reactions of the RWers in regards to the speech  Mystayya   Sep-09-09 08:48 AM   #125 
        - That is nothing more than crapolla to mask your hatred of Obama.  olegramps   Sep-09-09 08:50 AM   #126 
  - why did you opt out?  Kali   Sep-08-09 11:16 PM   #14 
  - Fear I guess  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-08-09 11:44 PM   #24 
  - Please, please, please  Control-Z   Sep-08-09 11:48 PM   #31 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-09-09 12:32 AM   #43 
     - I know  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 12:41 AM   #46 
        - they're supposedly "under-the-radar-trolls"  Skittles   Sep-09-09 12:44 AM   #47 
        - This one's not under the radar  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 12:48 AM   #51 
           - do it - I can't; I put trolls on IGNORE because they fucking disgust me  Skittles   Sep-09-09 12:49 AM   #53 
           - Actually, the alertable offense here is calling someone a troll.  merwin   Sep-09-09 12:53 AM   #56 
              - I completely missed it -  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 01:01 AM   #59 
              - then i guess you dont get that hes a politician, kinda like if the holy father gave a speech  vadawg   Sep-09-09 01:05 AM   #62 
              - We each have our own  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 01:29 AM   #72 
                 - Whoa . . .wait . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:56 PM   #172 
                    - If Bush actually had a similar message  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 05:44 PM   #196 
                       - bush had *no* valid points to make. i would very much have a problem  Hannah Bell   Sep-10-09 04:32 AM   #209 
              - But this person has a valid point in applying it equally to all speeches from politicians.  merwin   Sep-09-09 01:19 AM   #67 
              - A "leader" automatically brings a political message . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 02:52 PM   #170 
              - Exactly. And the one you're referring to who can't spell ignore without putting it in ALL CAPS  Number23   Sep-09-09 01:41 AM   #81 
        - why should i go into the details of my families history and beliefs with someone i dont know  vadawg   Sep-09-09 12:55 AM   #57 
           - People here were just curious as to  stuball111   Sep-09-09 01:15 AM   #64 
           - deleted due to misunderstanding...  vadawg   Sep-09-09 01:20 AM   #69 
              - This is a progressive board  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 01:41 AM   #80 
              - so would you put conscientous objectors as the right fringe because they saw stuff differently  vadawg   Sep-09-09 01:47 AM   #85 
                 - Of course you can make PRIVATE/PERSONAL decisions . . but then  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 03:03 PM   #176 
                    - bingo  Howardx   Sep-09-09 04:54 PM   #191 
              - "YOUR" kind?  stuball111   Sep-09-09 01:46 AM   #84 
           - BECAUSE . . . YOU brought this message to a public arena . . .you chose to do so . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-09-09 03:01 PM   #175 
           - Is it because you have daughters?  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 06:53 PM   #204 
  - Your kids opted out; bull crap you opted out your kids.  olegramps   Sep-09-09 08:38 AM   #123 
  - You appear to contradict yourself.  olegramps   Sep-09-09 09:30 AM   #127 
  - sorry the use of my words kinda made sense to me, by saying my kids opted out i of course meant  vadawg   Sep-11-09 06:41 PM   #228 
  - What legitmate cultural reason is there for them not to want their children to watch a speech  Raineyb   Sep-09-09 10:47 AM   #129 
     - ::: applause ::::: thank you!  SemperEadem   Sep-09-09 03:15 PM   #179 
  - Because 'its a free country,'  elleng   Sep-09-09 12:40 AM   #45 
  - People homeschool for a LOT of reasons, not just  liberalhistorian   Sep-09-09 02:03 PM   #151 
  - Next they will be asking to opt out of math.  roody   Sep-09-09 12:46 AM   #49 
  - Very true, that's what my son's district did.  liberalhistorian   Sep-09-09 01:41 PM   #148 
  - Why? Would this have happened when the boy king was still squatting in the White House?  pacalo   Sep-09-09 03:18 PM   #180 
  - They'd rather die, taking their families down with them, than listen to a black guy....  BlooInBloo   Sep-08-09 10:53 PM   #2 
  - Yes. There were 12 speakers -- all for the President's speech being aired.  Liberty Belle   Sep-08-09 11:00 PM   #6 
     - Here's the thing...  BolivarianHero   Sep-08-09 11:03 PM   #9 
  - "...children from a very good family"  Solly Mack   Sep-08-09 10:55 PM   #3 
  - I've actually known this family for a few years, indirectly.  Liberty Belle   Sep-08-09 11:03 PM   #8 
  - She's talking in code  Solly Mack   Sep-08-09 11:34 PM   #20 
     - I'm sure she's fine.  pokercat999   Sep-08-09 11:49 PM   #32 
     - She's the hypocritical kind who looks down on single moms.  Raschel   Sep-09-09 05:00 PM   #192 
  - every time i hear the words "from a very good family"  musette_sf   Sep-09-09 05:57 PM   #199 
  - Good! If it gets more sane people involved, perhaps we can get boards that care for education  havocmom   Sep-08-09 10:59 PM   #5 
  - Amen to that.  Liberty Belle   Sep-08-09 11:08 PM   #10 
  - I'm glad that the African American board member  LuvNewcastle   Sep-08-09 11:16 PM   #15 
  - she looks rather aghast to me  SemperEadem   Sep-09-09 03:19 PM   #181 
  - "...now you’re putting them in a room where there are words they don’t understand...  intheflow   Sep-08-09 11:27 PM   #17 
  - I never thought these Obama haters would sink this low  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-08-09 11:40 PM   #21 
  - Look what a Republican teachers' union leader just posted!  Liberty Belle   Sep-08-09 11:45 PM   #27 
  - Whoa. That's encouraging.  Maru Kitteh   Sep-09-09 12:29 AM   #40 
     - The shark has finally been jumped.  bobbolink   Sep-09-09 02:04 AM   #92 
  - One board member's comment was very revealing:  tblue37   Sep-09-09 12:15 AM   #35 
  - "ugly person" = black guy  KelleyKramer   Sep-09-09 01:36 PM   #147 
  - Run Forrest Run - For school board that is!  ddeclue   Sep-09-09 12:18 AM   #37 
  - The speech wasn't shown at Serra High in Tierrasanta either  itsrobert   Sep-09-09 12:19 AM   #38 
  - what's with this "articulate African -American" thing?  Skittles   Sep-09-09 12:31 AM   #41 
  - Because she was the only articulate board member,  Liberty Belle   Sep-09-09 12:51 AM   #54 
  - What just took plcae would be called overcompensation...  merwin   Sep-09-09 12:56 AM   #58 
  - "articulate board member"  Hannah Bell   Sep-09-09 03:51 AM   #101 
  - It's a racist red flag - a condescension toward blacks  CakeGrrl   Sep-09-09 01:19 AM   #66 
  - It's one of the reasons loonies didn't want their kids to watch the speech.  Raschel   Sep-09-09 12:09 PM   #139 
  - How sheltered are these kids?  girl gone mad   Sep-09-09 12:51 AM   #55 
  - As the Prez of the Board of Education, why is she only thinking of her kids?  flvegan   Sep-09-09 01:28 AM   #71 
  - Wow  gopiscrap   Sep-09-09 01:35 AM   #76 
  - I am concerned for the children of these people, especially as they lay on a couch...  bridgit   Sep-09-09 02:04 AM   #93 
  - Parents seem to see their children as property.  TheKentuckian   Sep-09-09 03:47 AM   #100 
  - so do you feel the same way about religion in schools, should they be free to do full on  vadawg   Sep-09-09 03:52 AM   #102 
     - Which do you like best?  FlaGranny   Sep-09-09 06:27 AM   #110 
  - The best bit was  panzerfaust   Sep-09-09 07:16 AM   #117 
  - I'm more of a pop-in than a regular poster, but  My Good Babushka   Sep-09-09 09:51 AM   #128 
  - Please pop-in more often!  Lars39   Sep-09-09 10:52 AM   #131 
  - Well said! n/t  Spazito   Sep-09-09 11:42 AM   #136 
  - I hope he reads your response.  Control-Z   Sep-09-09 06:42 PM   #203 
  - that's your ideal. it's not the ideal of every US sub-culture. nor the reality.  Hannah Bell   Sep-10-09 04:58 AM   #211 
  - k&r  Swamp Rat   Sep-09-09 01:27 PM   #146 
  - The words "control over our kids"  Ajaye   Sep-09-09 05:55 PM   #198 
  - it's not occurred before, to my knowledge, that the president made  Hannah Bell   Sep-10-09 04:41 AM   #210 
     - Well,  FlaGranny   Sep-10-09 08:34 AM   #213 
        - as i said, i recall no previous occasion of a nationally televised presidential  Hannah Bell   Sep-10-09 12:29 PM   #215 
           - but just because YOU don't recall it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.  SemperEadem   Sep-10-09 01:08 PM   #216 
              - thank you, reagan & bush 1, i stand corrected. & still feel the same.  Hannah Bell   Sep-10-09 01:26 PM   #217 
                 - of course.. pride goes before destruction and the haughty spirit before the fall  SemperEadem   Sep-10-09 08:23 PM   #218 
                 - about what?  Hannah Bell   Sep-11-09 02:07 AM   #224 
                 - Now you stand corrected? Would be nice if you admitted you were wrong  Raineyb   Sep-10-09 09:42 PM   #222 
                    - i haven't changed my opinion on that, so why should i "admit i was wrong"?  Hannah Bell   Sep-11-09 02:31 AM   #225 
  - I emailed Halgren yesterday. Got a response today.  Webster Green   Sep-10-09 09:57 AM   #214 
     - Can you fax that letter to me?  Liberty Belle   Sep-10-09 09:00 PM   #219 
        - I'll try to do it tomorrow..  Webster Green   Sep-10-09 10:12 PM   #223 
 

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