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95. no, sharpton's being paid.
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 06:03 AM by Hannah Bell
"As I continued reading, questions immediately arose as to the status of the non-profit group, Education Reform Now, which served as the pass through or ‘front group’ for the $500,000 to Sharpton and his organization. Who or what is ‘Education Reform Now’ and just what do they stand for and why the subterfuge in paying off Sharpton?

...Curious, I wanted to know more; like who actually runs Education Reform Now? It didn’t take much digging to find the answer: it was and still is as of this writing, Joe Williams, the former New York Daily News reporter who also directs another educational think tank or front group, Democrats for Education Reform, a leading advocacy group for expanding charter schools throughout New York. Now the whole complex web was starting to make sense and the story eventually came full circle when it was revealed that Joe Williams is also listed as the president and the treasurer of the same Education Equality Project (EEP) launched by Rev. Al Sharpton and Joel Klein in 2008, for which Sharpton’s National Action Network was handsomely paid.

I decided to look up Democrats for Education Reform on the internet to see what exactly they do. The group says it works to foster charter schools throughout New York and elsewhere...

Although Joe Williams, head of the group, prefers to remain silent on the matter of the $500,000 payoff to Sharpton, current New York City Schools Chancellor, Joel Klein not only acknowledges the payment but has been busy using his connections and the high-profile Sharpton partnership to raise more than $1.6 million dollars for EEP; no doubt the $500,000 investment in Sharpton’s glitzy media image, political influence and rhetorical support is paying off for the burgeoning New York city think tank and their ongoing efforts in New York to privatize education through charter contract schools, much in the same vein as we see in Chicago, Washington D.C., and New Orleans.

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  -Arne Duncan wants "very high bar to entry" into charter schools. madfloridian  Sep-07-09 08:31 PM   #0 
  - K&R  Orwellian_Ghost   Sep-07-09 08:33 PM   #1 
  - But wait, I thought that charter schools were just like public schools  MadHound   Sep-07-09 08:35 PM   #2 
  - Well, I used his own words.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 08:36 PM   #4 
  - Article On Duncan:  Dinger   Sep-07-09 09:59 PM   #34 
  - Wow, there is a lot packed into that article.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 10:25 PM   #39 
  - the teachers' salaries, credentials, & ability to participate in collective bargaining...  Hannah Bell   Sep-07-09 10:55 PM   #51 
     - I have a question.  alstephenson   Sep-08-09 01:52 PM   #98 
  - as usual, big up.....you should replace that clown Duncan  Gabi Hayes   Sep-07-09 08:35 PM   #3 
  - There are many parents of charter school students who would disagree.  alstephenson   Sep-08-09 01:53 PM   #99 
     - the charter schools that are 'succeeding' are a very small minority, for starters.  Gabi Hayes   Sep-08-09 05:25 PM   #108 
  - Yup. It's a racket.  omega minimo   Sep-07-09 08:36 PM   #5 
  - Money money...who gets the 10 billion he has in his hand?  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 08:46 PM   #8 
  - Obama's pet wants to skim students - just like racist private schools do. nice nt  msongs   Sep-07-09 08:36 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-08-09 01:06 PM   #97 
  - There seems to be no stopping the corporate take over of  ipaint   Sep-07-09 08:43 PM   #7 
  - That would be...  Luminous Animal   Sep-07-09 10:49 PM   #48 
     - Replace with Democrats and knock off party. n/t.  ipaint   Sep-07-09 10:58 PM   #55 
  - Jonathan Kozol was on C-Span yesterday and spoke of them with dripping contempt  eleny   Sep-07-09 08:50 PM   #9 
  - I am as unenamoured of charter schools as you are but you are seriously misquoting Duncan here  dsc   Sep-07-09 08:56 PM   #10 
  - No no no...I am quoting Duncan EXACTLY...here are the words again.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:00 PM   #11 
  - dsc is right, you're misreading that.  LeftyMom   Sep-07-09 09:03 PM   #16 
  - Those are his words. Deny them if you feel you must.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:19 PM   #20 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-07-09 09:25 PM   #26 
     - Those are his words, yes, but YOUR way of taking them is NOT what those words mean.  George II   Sep-07-09 10:39 PM   #44 
     - i believe in this case he's talking about the school management, not the kids.  Hannah Bell   Sep-07-09 11:14 PM   #64 
        - None of it matters now.  madfloridian   Sep-08-09 12:15 AM   #87 
           - why?  Hannah Bell   Sep-08-09 05:10 AM   #92 
  - The chance to educate is a scared obligation  dsc   Sep-07-09 09:07 PM   #19 
     - The use of the word "entry" tells us what he means.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:21 PM   #21 
        - entry into the education market  dsc   Sep-07-09 09:24 PM   #25 
        - That is your interpretation.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:25 PM   #27 
           - the flowers refer to the schools not the students  dsc   Sep-07-09 09:33 PM   #28 
           - .  George II   Sep-07-09 10:45 PM   #46 
           - I agree with dsc.  alstephenson   Sep-08-09 01:57 PM   #100 
           - It's a quote from Mao Zedong  wickerwoman   Sep-08-09 05:36 PM   #109 
           - I almost always support you, madfloridian, but I think that dsc is right on  amandabeech   Sep-09-09 10:56 PM   #124 
        - Ok, then what is your interpretation of what he meant by "entry"? You haven't articulated that here.  George II   Sep-07-09 10:42 PM   #45 
  - Dupe delete  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:00 PM   #12 
  - I didn't read it that way.  ipaint   Sep-07-09 09:02 PM   #14 
  - Yes, cherry picking does help.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:23 PM   #24 
  - I agree. The bar refers to the charter schools, rather than the students. nt  Barack_America   Sep-08-09 02:05 PM   #103 
  - broken record here, but remember the exceptions  zazen   Sep-07-09 09:01 PM   #13 
  - I never said they were all bad. It is my money paying for them.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:03 PM   #15 
  - But in other discussions you claim that it is CORPORATE money that is paying for them!  George II   Sep-07-09 10:58 PM   #56 
     - They are using my money to turn it over to corporate control. Why do you do this, George?  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:03 PM   #59 
        - Let me turn that question around....when it comes to the Obama Adiministration and Arne Duncan...  George II   Sep-07-09 11:07 PM   #61 
           - My tax money that used to go to public schools is now going to charter schools.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:11 PM   #62 
              - First, a very small minority of charter schools are "managed" by private groups and "companies"...  George II   Sep-07-09 11:19 PM   #66 
                 - You are giving an on the surface accounting. You rely heavily on charter school sources  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:27 PM   #71 
                 - You are mixing me up with someone else......  George II   Sep-07-09 11:33 PM   #77 
                 - I am anti-AFT, but I was union in every way. All unions are not the same.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:39 PM   #80 
                    - Why are you anti-AFT? The AFT was a pioneer in organizing teachers and are probably...  George II   Sep-07-09 11:47 PM   #84 
                    - The NEA is older and nearlyt 4 times larger.  Luminous Animal   Sep-08-09 04:49 PM   #107 
                       - I didn't say they were the oldest, did I? And....  George II   Sep-09-09 10:20 PM   #121 
                    - Oh, by the way.  alstephenson   Sep-08-09 02:03 PM   #102 
                 - It's not Walmart.  alstephenson   Sep-08-09 02:01 PM   #101 
                 - 12 to over 20%, depending on the source. neither % is "a very small minority".  Hannah Bell   Sep-08-09 05:12 AM   #93 
                    - Tell that to McGovern and Mondale and Goldwater...they got way more than 20% of the vote...  George II   Sep-09-09 10:27 PM   #122 
  - Requiring transportation excludes poor families.  ipaint   Sep-07-09 09:07 PM   #18 
  - K & R So I Can Read This Later  Dinger   Sep-07-09 09:05 PM   #17 
  - Will be thinking of you. Best to both of you.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:22 PM   #22 
     - Thanks  Dinger   Sep-07-09 09:23 PM   #23 
  - Newt Gingrich is getting his long time dream of charter schools....  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:42 PM   #29 
  - What does Newt Gingrich have to do with this? Do you think dragging his name into this...  George II   Sep-07-09 11:00 PM   #57 
     - because gingrich is a long-standing advocate, as she said.  Hannah Bell   Sep-07-09 11:17 PM   #65 
     - OK, why is Newt Gingrich singled out? For the dramatic effect?  George II   Sep-07-09 11:25 PM   #70 
        - Because I chose to post other items. You need to calm down.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:31 PM   #75 
           - Yes, you chose to post oher items...  George II   Sep-07-09 11:37 PM   #79 
              - With my tax money, and I disapprove. Why are you doing this?  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:42 PM   #82 
                 - You know that is not true..  George II   Sep-07-09 11:52 PM   #86 
     - Gingrich is touring with Arne to push charter schools.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:30 PM   #74 
        - As is Al Sharpton. Maybe they're achieving the dream of.....  George II   Sep-07-09 11:41 PM   #81 
           - Ah, I get it now.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:45 PM   #83 
           - I am an advocate for better education for America's children, not necessarily..  George II   Sep-07-09 11:51 PM   #85 
           - Sharpton has 500,000 reasons to team up with the privatization movement.  Luminous Animal   Sep-08-09 02:11 AM   #91 
           - no, sharpton's being paid.  Hannah Bell   Sep-08-09 06:01 AM   #95 
  - Maybe you need to review some of your critical thinking tools  frazzled   Sep-07-09 09:44 PM   #30 
  - Part of it refers to operators, yes. But not the high bar part.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 09:45 PM   #31 
  - No, the whole passage is in reference to the operators of charter schools  frazzled   Sep-07-09 09:55 PM   #32 
  - jeez  paulsby   Sep-07-09 09:57 PM   #33 
  - It's obvious that he referring to the bar set for people opening and teaching in charter schools  ipaint   Sep-07-09 10:02 PM   #35 
  - So much for the slogan "No Child Left Behind"  rucky   Sep-07-09 10:05 PM   #36 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-09 10:09 PM   #37 
     - "There should be a very high bar to entry"  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 10:33 PM   #42 
     - I caught that...  rucky   Sep-07-09 10:49 PM   #47 
  - And for all the critical thinkers here what is the difference  ipaint   Sep-07-09 10:13 PM   #38 
  - So charter schools are basically prep schools?  GreenPartyVoter   Sep-07-09 10:27 PM   #40 
  - Charter schools are whatever keeps themselves profitable.  rucky   Sep-07-09 10:51 PM   #49 
  - Fuck Arne.  roody   Sep-07-09 10:29 PM   #41 
  - You don't leave it alone do you?  George II   Sep-07-09 10:37 PM   #43 
  - Duncan and Chicago  ipaint   Sep-07-09 10:54 PM   #50 
  - It's going to be a tangled mess before it's over. It's going to hurt us badly.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 10:58 PM   #54 
  - he is co-opting the revolution...  madrchsod   Sep-07-09 10:55 PM   #52 
  - This is utterly RIDICULOUS!!!  George II   Sep-07-09 10:56 PM   #53 
  - You need to stop shouting at me. That school has been different things.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:06 PM   #60 
  - So what you're saying is that a student of yours was sent to traditional public school....  George II   Sep-07-09 11:11 PM   #63 
  - Why are you doing this?  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:29 PM   #73 
  - Um, yeah.  alstephenson   Sep-08-09 02:16 PM   #104 
  - So you're saying Obama's plan and Arnie's road show IS about forcing CHARTER schools on the public  omega minimo   Sep-07-09 11:22 PM   #69 
     - You missed the point of that post......  George II   Sep-07-09 11:28 PM   #72 
     - Not at all. You can't have it both ways. Too bad.  omega minimo   Sep-08-09 12:18 AM   #89 
     - Thanks. Thread after thread after thread.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:32 PM   #76 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-08-09 12:16 AM   #88 
  - If the same ones at DU discredit me....there will be others along to post  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:02 PM   #58 
  - source of confusion may be the Title I distinction of "School of Choice"  salin   Sep-07-09 11:20 PM   #67 
  - I taught in a Title I school.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:36 PM   #78 
  - More about students expelled from charters, or not accepted because of disabilities.  madfloridian   Sep-07-09 11:22 PM   #68 
  - Dear George. About that Obama hate you say I have.  madfloridian   Sep-08-09 01:11 AM   #90 
  - Separate and unequal... Remember that?  JCMach1   Sep-08-09 05:24 AM   #94 
  - Charters = robbing public education  placton   Sep-08-09 10:10 AM   #96 
  - From 2003...doing the same thing over and over and thinking it will work.  madfloridian   Sep-08-09 02:21 PM   #105 
  - That 'bar' better come with some very high teacher salaries.  Fire1   Sep-08-09 04:42 PM   #106 
  - For some reason I feel reluctant to trust Duncan any further than I could throw him.  BrklynLiberal   Sep-08-09 05:37 PM   #110 
  - First, Arne, go back to grad school and become a certified administrator,  DailyGrind51   Sep-08-09 06:04 PM   #111 
  - Here madfloridan - in case anyone here  waiting for hope   Sep-08-09 08:10 PM   #112 
  - Thanks, but I will post very carefully about charter schools from now on.  madfloridian   Sep-08-09 08:35 PM   #113 
     - Remember a few years ago when  waiting for hope   Sep-08-09 08:51 PM   #114 
     - I will post, but I must be careful about it now.  madfloridian   Sep-08-09 08:53 PM   #115 
     - It took me a while to read the whole thread but  erinlough   Sep-08-09 09:15 PM   #116 
        - I am getting a couple of posts together about Florida and this issue.  madfloridian   Sep-08-09 09:28 PM   #117 
           - I gave up fighting about it...  erinlough   Sep-08-09 09:35 PM   #118 
  - Duncan has to go and so does all this testing  emsimon33   Sep-08-09 11:05 PM   #119 
  - Kicking Again  Dinger   Sep-09-09 08:24 PM   #120 
     - Keep up posted. Thoughts going out to you.  madfloridian   Sep-09-09 10:28 PM   #123 
 

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