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47. sorry...gotta call bullshit on this one
a 1 second exposure to water of 160 degrees will cause third degree burns...

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  -More schools ban BIKING to school The Straight Story  Sep-06-09 11:00 AM   #0 
  - and yet they bemoan childhood obesity  NMDemDist2   Sep-06-09 11:02 AM   #1 
  - And this is how we get fat kids...  LittleOne   Sep-06-09 11:04 AM   #2 
  - Nanny State.  enlightenment   Sep-06-09 11:07 AM   #3 
  - It's not about the "nanny state."  LWolf   Sep-06-09 12:25 PM   #27 
  - Your argument obliquely reminds of  Trillo   Sep-06-09 01:06 PM   #35 
     - The Onion is often closer to reality than not,  LWolf   Sep-06-09 01:31 PM   #37 
        - "We could make school not mandatory; that would be bad for a representative democracy."  Trillo   Sep-06-09 04:29 PM   #98 
           - Science to back it up?  LWolf   Sep-07-09 09:39 AM   #128 
              - I understand your concern about politicization of fuzzy sciences,  Trillo   Sep-08-09 01:43 PM   #136 
                 - The key to your first paragraph  LWolf   Sep-09-09 07:53 AM   #139 
                    - You may believe whatever you want, but no, not "anti-school"  Trillo   Sep-09-09 05:37 PM   #158 
                       - I wasn't thinking that  LWolf   Sep-10-09 06:36 AM   #162 
  - Why liberal?  tabasco   Sep-06-09 02:16 PM   #45 
  - Liberal?  Xicano   Sep-09-09 06:08 PM   #161 
  - I only got hit by a car once while biking to school over a year as a ninth grader  stray cat   Sep-06-09 11:07 AM   #4 
  - I was only in two bus accidents  The Straight Story   Sep-06-09 11:09 AM   #5 
     - Sounds like a lousy bus driver  stray cat   Sep-06-09 11:12 AM   #7 
        - She also used to leave bible pamphlets on the bus  The Straight Story   Sep-06-09 11:18 AM   #11 
           - Man - What a disasterous driver! Now thats scary!  stray cat   Sep-06-09 11:21 AM   #13 
           - Now there's a woman who NEEDS to have God as her co-pilot.  SmileyRose   Sep-06-09 11:35 AM   #19 
           - Well, of course!  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-06-09 04:14 PM   #93 
              - It was a big deal!  Shell Beau   Sep-06-09 08:45 PM   #114 
  - So we have to find a way to protect schools from frivolous lawsuits.  SmileyRose   Sep-06-09 11:10 AM   #6 
  - Hanging a few frivolous lawyers would be a start.  Vidar   Sep-06-09 11:13 AM   #8 
  - Pass a law making it illegal  LWolf   Sep-06-09 12:38 PM   #29 
  - Frivolous suits rarely make it to trial. By bringing up and inflating the  alfredo   Sep-06-09 12:50 PM   #33 
     - Exactly - and how about telling people who serve on juries to use logic  treestar   Sep-09-09 11:08 AM   #147 
  - Neither of my daughters were allowed to walk or bike to school  ProgressiveProfessor   Sep-06-09 11:16 AM   #9 
  - Crazy to ban bikes or walking but sometimes insane to bike or walk  stray cat   Sep-06-09 11:17 AM   #10 
  - Yup. I banned myself from biking...  GoCubsGo   Sep-06-09 12:56 PM   #34 
  - yep, I've nearly been hit several times  a la izquierda   Sep-07-09 09:53 AM   #129 
  - Here in which "South"?  taterguy   Sep-10-09 04:13 PM   #164 
  - Just saw on the news- a bicyclist got hit by a car and died.  LisaL   Sep-07-09 02:10 AM   #125 
  - Crazy to have roads without walkable shoulders -- that's the first problem.  Gormy Cuss   Sep-09-09 10:46 AM   #141 
  - Plus we're too far spread out...  mwooldri   Sep-10-09 06:59 AM   #163 
  - Well, since exercise apparently has no bearing on your waistline....  Edweird   Sep-06-09 11:20 AM   #12 
  - When I see people biking in traffic, many a time not even  LisaL   Sep-06-09 11:22 AM   #14 
  - And then there's Boulder  abumbyanyothername   Sep-06-09 11:28 AM   #15 
  - Why would schools get law suits over kids being hit by cars?  Lost-in-FL   Sep-06-09 11:30 AM   #16 
  - If you can sue a McDonalds over spilled coffee... Well...  LisaL   Sep-06-09 11:34 AM   #17 
  - or gaining weight...  Lost-in-FL   Sep-06-09 11:42 AM   #20 
  - Or sue McDonald's for selling superheated coffee  gratuitous   Sep-06-09 12:02 PM   #22 
  - yeah, I really hate when people pull that one out...  Salviati   Sep-06-09 12:15 PM   #24 
  - Sigh. Why are you introducing facts?  Jeep789   Sep-06-09 12:19 PM   #25 
  - Thank you. I've read the case - the injuries were very extreme. n/t  Ms. Toad   Sep-06-09 02:50 PM   #55 
  - McDonalds didn't tell her to put the cup where she put it, I presume.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:30 PM   #60 
     - No - but (1) I can't begin to count the number of times I have  Ms. Toad   Sep-06-09 03:42 PM   #67 
        - Well I bet a lot of businesses are over compensating.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 04:18 PM   #94 
           - At home, you have control  Ms. Toad   Sep-06-09 06:08 PM   #103 
              - Ya Got That Right  RobinA   Sep-06-09 11:05 PM   #116 
  - Oh Christ, it's COFFEE, it's SUPPOSED to be HOT!!!  Odin2005   Sep-06-09 04:01 PM   #89 
  - Hot, yes. THIRD DEGREE BURN hot, no! n/t  iris27   Sep-06-09 04:19 PM   #95 
  - Blaming the victim, eh?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-06-09 06:36 PM   #105 
     - You are correct.  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Sep-06-09 08:35 PM   #111 
     - Proper extraction for coffee is 190 degrees  taught_me_patience   Sep-09-09 05:55 PM   #160 
  - My question about that whole lawsuit  The Straight Story   Sep-06-09 06:32 PM   #104 
     - At least 700 cases in the decade prior.  DefenseLawyer   Sep-06-09 08:16 PM   #107 
  - Please stop using Liebeck v. McDonalds as an example of a frivolous lawsuit  jmowreader   Sep-06-09 12:32 PM   #28 
  - Why did she put a coffee cup between her legs?  LisaL   Sep-06-09 01:59 PM   #41 
  - I like hot coffee, as well, and McDonald's coffee for the most part  Ms. Toad   Sep-06-09 02:55 PM   #56 
  - Your last sentence is what the schools are really afraid of  jmowreader   Sep-06-09 03:09 PM   #58 
     - Do you or do you not agree that it's better to be careful around  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:20 PM   #59 
        - I agree that it's better to be careful around hot liquids  jmowreader   Sep-06-09 04:42 PM   #100 
           - How many people were killed by hot coffee vs. let's say car  LisaL   Sep-06-09 08:26 PM   #109 
              - How many people are SUPPOSED to be killed by hot coffee?  jmowreader   Sep-06-09 11:05 PM   #117 
                 - You can't possibly envision that a hot beverage could be  LisaL   Sep-07-09 02:15 AM   #126 
                    - I've never DRANK IT WHILE IT WAS FUCKING BOILING!!!  jmowreader   Sep-07-09 07:50 AM   #127 
  - The abuse of litigation is far more scalding than putting a searing hot cup of liquid between one's  Deja Q   Sep-06-09 04:08 PM   #92 
  - ...  Lost-in-FL   Sep-06-09 04:44 PM   #101 
  - McDonald's had been warned by burn units of the danger of the temperature of their coffee  laughingliberal   Sep-09-09 11:06 AM   #146 
  - Here's a little heads up.  DefenseLawyer   Sep-06-09 01:44 PM   #40 
  - I've been "educated" about McDonalds coffee case.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 02:01 PM   #42 
     - You drink 190 degree liquid?  DefenseLawyer   Sep-06-09 02:14 PM   #43 
        - I like to drink it close to boiling temperature.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 02:16 PM   #44 
           - sorry...gotta call bullshit on this one  ProdigalJunkMail   Sep-06-09 02:19 PM   #47 
              - I boil the water. I make tea. Then I drink it.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 02:23 PM   #49 
              - you put something over about 160 in your mouth and you  ProdigalJunkMail   Sep-06-09 02:24 PM   #50 
              - I am not peeling any skin off anything. I wasn't born yersterday.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 02:29 PM   #51 
                 - then you are wrong on the temp...physics is physics... n/t  ProdigalJunkMail   Sep-06-09 03:41 PM   #65 
                    - Physics is physics.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:46 PM   #74 
                       - They don't need to to cause damage  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 03:49 PM   #76 
                       - Why don't you try it?  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:51 PM   #79 
                          - Why should I need to?  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 03:56 PM   #84 
                       - They actually can  jmowreader   Sep-06-09 11:10 PM   #118 
                          - Yea well I doubt McDonalds put salt in its coffee.  LisaL   Sep-07-09 02:07 AM   #123 
                          - Salt raises the boiling point of water only 2 degrees C.  immoderate   Sep-07-09 01:23 PM   #132 
              - You aren't drinking it at close to boiling temperature  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 03:40 PM   #64 
                 - You don't drink hot liquids. You sip them slowly.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:42 PM   #66 
                    - and you don't pull any liquid into your mouth at the temps you claim  ProdigalJunkMail   Sep-06-09 03:43 PM   #70 
                    - I've not made any claims regarding the specific temperature.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:48 PM   #75 
                       - Except "I drink it close to boiling temperature," which you don't. (nt)  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 03:50 PM   #77 
                       - Did I define "close?" How much is "close?"  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:51 PM   #80 
                          - Is 150 -155 degrees close to boiling in your definition?  Gormy Cuss   Sep-09-09 11:18 AM   #151 
                       - "I drink it close to boiling..."  ProdigalJunkMail   Sep-06-09 03:53 PM   #82 
                          - The point is, when it's in the cup, it's hot enough to cause burns  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:59 PM   #88 
                             - You really either don't understand the concept of liability  DefenseLawyer   Sep-07-09 12:29 AM   #120 
                                - Chainsaw could be a dangerous product even if there is nothing wrong  LisaL   Sep-07-09 02:08 AM   #124 
                                   - Are you refusing to answer my question?  DefenseLawyer   Sep-07-09 12:32 PM   #130 
                    - You aren't sipping anything near 190F either. (nt)  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 03:43 PM   #71 
                       - I've no idea. I've never measured it.  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:45 PM   #72 
              - Off topic: Hey PJM! I was just thinking about you the other day.  Coventina   Sep-07-09 12:53 PM   #131 
              - hello...sorry for the long time on the reply  ProdigalJunkMail   Sep-08-09 08:36 AM   #133 
                 - Hey, no need to apologize! I didn't check to see if you replied  Coventina   Sep-08-09 10:33 PM   #138 
              - Yes and McDonald's standard was to hold their coffee at 190 degrees  laughingliberal   Sep-09-09 11:12 AM   #150 
  - Resulted in a verdict for plaintiff  treestar   Sep-09-09 11:09 AM   #148 
  - Well, since they are not on school property I don't know why either  The Straight Story   Sep-06-09 11:34 AM   #18 
  - That would be logical.  LWolf   Sep-06-09 12:44 PM   #32 
     - Exactly, parents still sue  tammywammy   Sep-06-09 02:45 PM   #53 
        - There was a mess in my town about ten years back...  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 03:43 PM   #69 
  - The main reason may well be ...  surrealAmerican   Sep-06-09 02:37 PM   #52 
  - Are you living in a bubble? Our society is so lawsuit-happy it's pathetic.  Odin2005   Sep-06-09 03:56 PM   #85 
  - Even if I was it is still ludicrous that the school would be responsible for that. nt  Lost-in-FL   Sep-06-09 04:50 PM   #102 
  - Any lawyer with a brain would sue the driver  treestar   Sep-09-09 10:55 AM   #143 
  - Encouraging kids to partake in an usafe activity.  Xithras   Sep-09-09 11:45 AM   #156 
  - My son has 2 daughters age 5&6 who walk 4 blocks to school everyday. He has  madmom   Sep-06-09 11:53 AM   #21 
  - OMG! 4 blocks! That's outrageous!  Rabrrrrrr   Sep-09-09 11:18 AM   #152 
  - Jesus fucking christ  harry_pothead   Sep-06-09 12:03 PM   #23 
  - uphill in both directions?  Retrograde   Sep-06-09 01:14 PM   #36 
  - Well, the alternative would be to make safer biking and  Jeep789   Sep-06-09 12:21 PM   #26 
  - Cut busing and ban biking?  rucky   Sep-06-09 12:38 PM   #30 
  - Insurance companies are doing this to cut their exposure.  alfredo   Sep-06-09 12:42 PM   #31 
  - Sneezing should be banned next, as it is an obvious health risk.  saltpoint   Sep-06-09 01:32 PM   #38 
  - Hell, we're trying to procure the $$ for another bike rack at my middle school.  Blue-Jay   Sep-06-09 01:37 PM   #39 
  - I rode a school bus for a couple of weeks once. That was more dangerous  yurbud   Sep-06-09 02:19 PM   #46 
  - why not just put a monitoring bracelet on pedophiles and a detector at school  yurbud   Sep-06-09 02:21 PM   #48 
  - What will you do about traffic?  LisaL   Sep-06-09 02:48 PM   #54 
  - Biking has been banned at our middle school for years  Ms. Toad   Sep-06-09 03:02 PM   #57 
  - How could it be any of a school's business what mode of transportation a child  RB TexLa   Sep-06-09 03:35 PM   #61 
  - If the school can be held liable over it, whose business should it be?  LisaL   Sep-06-09 03:37 PM   #62 
     - Then the child should just tell them, "No, I didn't ride my bike to school"  RB TexLa   Sep-06-09 03:39 PM   #63 
  - Liability...? What the hell?  DireStrike   Sep-06-09 03:42 PM   #68 
  - In a lot of places...  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 03:46 PM   #73 
  - I don't understand the reasoning at ALL  DireStrike   Sep-06-09 03:53 PM   #83 
     - Most school administrators *are* terrified  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 03:59 PM   #87 
        - Sounds like we need some new laws  DireStrike   Sep-06-09 04:20 PM   #96 
  - Are schools held liable for the bullies that run around on the bus, belittling and beating others?  Deja Q   Sep-06-09 04:06 PM   #91 
     - Depends on the district, doesn't it?  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 04:22 PM   #97 
  - Portland is an incredibly bike-friendly city otherwise.  Quantess   Sep-06-09 03:51 PM   #78 
  - Lawyers, it's always the goddamn lawyers.  Odin2005   Sep-06-09 03:53 PM   #81 
  - Do you understand that juries decide tort cases?  Romulox   Sep-08-09 01:44 PM   #137 
  - Lawyers always have clients  treestar   Sep-09-09 11:02 AM   #144 
  - If a parent is driving their kid to school and they get into an accident  flvegan   Sep-06-09 03:57 PM   #86 
  - The basic idea of in loco parentis rules...  Posteritatis   Sep-06-09 04:29 PM   #99 
  - Logical. When I walked to school circa 5th grade (2 miles from home), mum and dad had reservations  Deja Q   Sep-06-09 04:04 PM   #90 
  - Just the first step into socialzing children into the car lifestyle.  Jkid   Sep-06-09 06:48 PM   #106 
  - This is terrible news. Fat children are such an eyesore. n/t  BOG PERSON   Sep-06-09 08:21 PM   #108 
  - That's why there are so many fat kids.  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Sep-06-09 08:31 PM   #110 
  - And coming back for my second bachelor's, I'm just dusting off my bike and riding it.  backscatter712   Sep-06-09 08:40 PM   #112 
  - When our kids were younger they biked every day to school.  Dappleganger   Sep-06-09 08:44 PM   #113 
  - Are they going to bus them? Do they have the money to bus them? No. nt  Ilsa   Sep-06-09 08:56 PM   #115 
  - More..  theorys   Sep-06-09 11:20 PM   #119 
  - Well, this is asinine  krispos42   Sep-07-09 12:38 AM   #121 
  - O.F.F.S.  cliffordu   Sep-07-09 12:40 AM   #122 
  - Well in defense of what happened in NJ - their drivers are CRAZY  LynneSin   Sep-08-09 08:50 AM   #134 
  - I'm waiting for the day when safety bubbles are required school equipment. nt  Javaman   Sep-08-09 10:24 AM   #135 
  - Can't get too fired up over this.  AngryOldDem   Sep-09-09 09:52 AM   #140 
  - True, it just depends on the area, and some of these posts saying  treestar   Sep-09-09 11:11 AM   #149 
  - Our elementary school (Portland, Ore.) has been making a big push FOR walking/biking  Arugula Latte   Sep-09-09 10:53 AM   #142 
  - the lawsuit excuse is to hide some other reason  treestar   Sep-09-09 11:05 AM   #145 
  - Christ on a crutch, we are some stupid fucking people!  rd_kent   Sep-09-09 11:20 AM   #153 
  - Makes sense...gotta get 'em into our car-centered society when they're still young  Kievan Rus   Sep-09-09 11:29 AM   #154 
  - Sue happy? Nah...the problem seems to be parents needing an outlet for blame  TheKentuckian   Sep-09-09 11:33 AM   #155 
  - Theoretical question...  Xithras   Sep-09-09 12:02 PM   #157 
  - Ban cars too! ... and buses! ... ban poor people who can't afford jack! ... ban this! ... ban that!  Swamp Rat   Sep-09-09 05:46 PM   #159 
 

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