Reply #62: yes...and I'm sad to say that. But, at some point Democrats need to take a stand

[KoKo]

to fight for a real movement and not caving into Repugs time after time.

Some will say "half a loaf" will help millions get health insurance who would be denied it. I say, that congress can do legislation ON THEIR OWN to stop Insurance Companies from denying folks with pre-existing conditions to be denied health insurance and they can force insurance companies by legislating changes about "co-pays" and "portability." They can even force companies through clever legislation to extend insurance to needy families by expanding Medicaid through a "back door." They managed to get S-Chip through to cover the neediest of children.

What Obama's deals with Insurance Companies will do will be a massive give away to the worst of the worst and we won't know what's in the bill until after it's passed when the dreaded "Conference Committee" gets through putting their restrictions and perks to the Insurance Companies in there.

We are better off letting it go down...and Congress to make the changes I said above and then fight like hell for Medicare for All...Single Payer.

Yeah...I know this is a downer for most DU'ers who will think I'm a troll for saying this. But, Obama/Rahm botched it all. I don't trust anything they would pass given the "Tea Party Antics" and rest by the Repugs who will shred the bill so bad that it will come back on Obama/Rahm for the 2010 Election.

Let it go down now. If he's serious he can bring it back early next year.