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Of rationing health care, death camps, Kaiser Permenente, and my 80+ year old mother . . . [View All]

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Sep-04-09 08:37 PM
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Of rationing health care, death camps, Kaiser Permenente, and my 80+ year old mother . . .
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I talked to my Mom today and she said she went for her checkup recently and the doc ordered a colonoscopy- since she's had polyps there before they like to keep an eye on that. BUT - the insurance wouldn't cover it. Why? She's over 80.

She went for a mammogram today but said she had to BEG the insurance company to cover it. Why? She's over 80

SO:

I GUESS that Kaiser Permenente figures that if you're over 80 and you get cancer - you can just DROP DEAD.

TALK ABOUT YOUR RATIONING AND DEATH PANELS. THERE YA GO - and it's NOT the big, bad "government" doing this in some skeery future scenario - it's the private for-profit insurance companies DOING IT NOW.

KAISER PERMENENTE apparently decided that Mom can just DIE if she gets cancer because it's not worth a few hundred of their precious MILLIONS to test her regularly.

If the insurance won't cover it because THEY'RE RATIONING HEALTH CARE AND DECIDING FOR HER THAT SHE SHOULD DIE IF SHE GETS CANCER ...

:wtf: is someone like Mom supposed to DO?

Answer:

DROP DEAD!

Pfft!

:mad:

:grr:

THERE'S YA "DEATH PANELS" folks - we haz dem NOW.
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  Of rationing health care, death camps, Kaiser Permenente, and my 80+ year old mother . . . Triana  Sep-04-09 08:37 PM   #0 
   What about Medicare? nt  valerief   Sep-04-09 08:40 PM   #1 
   Kaiser and Trickie put us in this boat over 30 yrs ago!  orpupilofnature57   Sep-04-09 08:41 PM   #2 
   This is what cut them loose, thanksTrick Dick  orpupilofnature57   Sep-04-09 09:18 PM   #11 
   Yep they did! Rotten bastards!  SammyWinstonJack   Sep-04-09 09:56 PM   #18 
   Our benevolent private insurance overlords would NEVER do something like that...n/t  Duke Newcombe   Sep-04-09 08:41 PM   #3 
   I'm not 80 yet, but  Suich   Sep-04-09 08:43 PM   #4 
   She said she had to fight to get it covered because of her age...  Triana   Sep-04-09 09:07 PM   #9 
   In the case of an HMO`  mitchtv   Sep-04-09 11:15 PM   #23 
      !  Triana   Sep-04-09 11:23 PM   #25 
      I'm on Medicare and I don't know what that means,  Suich   Sep-04-09 11:56 PM   #27 
         Kaiser makes the decisions, no appeal to MC  mitchtv   Sep-05-09 12:01 AM   #29 
            Kaiser needs to GO.  Triana   Sep-05-09 12:40 AM   #31 
   Wow, KP has changed since I was a member. My biggest problem was  Cleita   Sep-04-09 08:46 PM   #5 
   She needs to get away from Kaiser...  Triana   Sep-04-09 09:08 PM   #10 
      I am on Medicare have HEALTHNET hmo  mitchtv   Sep-04-09 11:59 PM   #28 
   I know nothing about Kaiser but isn't she on Medicare?  virgogal   Sep-04-09 08:48 PM   #6 
   She has said they won't cover it...  Triana   Sep-04-09 09:06 PM   #8 
      There is certainly nothing about age in the book I have.  virgogal   Sep-04-09 09:18 PM   #12 
         I will pass this on to her...thanks. n/t  Triana   Sep-04-09 09:24 PM   #13 
   there will always be a claims adjuster  excess_3   Sep-04-09 09:05 PM   #7 
   That doesn't sound right; I'm KP with Medicare and there's no age exclusion in my coverage  REP   Sep-04-09 09:26 PM   #14 
   I think her doctor and KP are acting like asses  Triana   Sep-04-09 09:38 PM   #15 
      Good luck, Triana!  Suich   Sep-04-09 09:46 PM   #16 
         I hope it does - however Kaiser has treated her like sh*t since she got on it  Triana   Sep-04-09 09:54 PM   #17 
   Why is your Mom, at 80, not using Medicare first and insurance to plug gaps?  Stinky The Clown   Sep-04-09 09:58 PM   #19 
   That's supposed to be what she has (I think) but  Triana   Sep-04-09 10:20 PM   #20 
      Having been there (caring for an aged parenet) more than once ......  Stinky The Clown   Sep-04-09 10:52 PM   #21 
   If your mom wants these tests she should get them  dflprincess   Sep-04-09 11:10 PM   #22 
   Well they aren't fun tests..  Triana   Sep-04-09 11:22 PM   #24 
   I think your mom is confused -- we have Kaiser Senior Advantage too - please read  SmileyRose   Sep-04-09 11:26 PM   #26 
   So what's happening is the primary care Dr. is simply NOT ordering tests  Triana   Sep-05-09 12:39 AM   #30 
      If the tests are listed on a sheet  SmileyRose   Sep-05-09 10:02 AM   #32 
         I live on the other side of the country from her so..  Triana   Sep-05-09 10:20 AM   #33 
            Medicare has it's quirks too.  SmileyRose   Sep-05-09 10:53 AM   #34 
   Kaiser does ration care. It would be good to see comparisons  WeCanWorkItOut   Sep-05-09 11:39 AM   #35 
   I forgot (it was so obvious): Kaiser also rations access to specialists  WeCanWorkItOut   Sep-05-09 01:51 PM   #36 
   Sounds like your mom is on a "Medicare Advantage" program (Medicare Part C), not traditional MedC.  Justitia   Sep-05-09 02:01 PM   #37 
      she can also write Kiaser and complain  Epiphany4z   Sep-06-09 01:57 PM   #38 
 

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