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197. It's been like this all day. DU doesn't support the Democratic President.
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  -If Obama caves on public option: Who do you back in primary in 2012: Dean or Kucinich? ddeclue  Sep-03-09 01:07 PM   #0 
  - Obama.  Buzz Clik   Sep-03-09 01:07 PM   #1 
  - not an option in this poll  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:08 PM   #5 
  - Obama as neither of the poll's options will be options in 2012 either.  Hansel   Sep-03-09 01:28 PM   #76 
  - That's what I was told about Obama in 2005  WeDidIt   Sep-03-09 01:43 PM   #111 
     - Not by me you weren't. I expected Obama to be president if he ran. nt  Hansel   Sep-03-09 01:56 PM   #128 
  - But it will be an option outside of fantasy land  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 01:55 PM   #124 
  - Pres. Obama's problem here  wpelb   Sep-03-09 01:34 PM   #93 
  - I find that pretty simplistic and ignoring the stark realities of politics.  Buzz Clik   Sep-03-09 02:19 PM   #147 
  - No doubt...  NotThisTime   Sep-03-09 05:44 PM   #174 
  - What makes you think either would run?  Drunken Irishman   Sep-03-09 01:08 PM   #2 
  - I'm not sure why anyone would blame Obama? He isn't on the finance  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 01:08 PM   #3 
  - Why choose? I'll work to primary Bill Nelson here in Florida too!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:09 PM   #8 
  - Obama is the head of the party....  Yuugal   Sep-03-09 03:36 PM   #160 
  - But he's not a dictator.  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 04:07 PM   #161 
     - The president is the leader of the party.  Yuugal   Sep-03-09 04:29 PM   #162 
     - We live in a democracy. Obama is the President, not  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 07:19 PM   #188 
     - Well I'll be consistent and say if the Public Option dies Primary ALL of them!  MessiahRp   Sep-03-09 10:00 PM   #217 
  - same.  knixphan   Sep-03-09 07:50 PM   #203 
  - The minute Obama signs a shitty bill, he owns the failure outright.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 08:32 PM   #209 
     - I think the term "shitty" is subjective  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 10:17 PM   #218 
        - Anything short of a True Public Option  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 10:23 PM   #221 
           - According to many of us  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 10:56 PM   #222 
              - There is NO reform without the public option  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 11:20 PM   #223 
                 - Regulation  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 11:22 PM   #224 
                    - And everything that's happened to this country since 1980  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 11:37 PM   #226 
                       - True, but we needn't stop at regulation.  mzmolly   Sep-04-09 12:18 AM   #227 
  - Kucinich, all the way....  mike_c   Sep-03-09 01:08 PM   #4 
  - Why? A President Kucinich would get absolutely nothing done. Well, he'd certainly spout off  KittyWampus   Sep-03-09 01:16 PM   #28 
  - because even so, the first step toward getting any liberal policies enacted...  mike_c   Sep-03-09 01:22 PM   #50 
  - can't argue with that.  knixphan   Sep-03-09 07:52 PM   #205 
  - So , Kucinich wouldn't be ineffective.  suzie   Sep-04-09 06:43 AM   #232 
     - what part of...  mike_c   Sep-04-09 05:28 PM   #242 
  - +1. The strategy of loading up local offices with Progressives would be far more effective. nt  Hansel   Sep-03-09 01:30 PM   # 
  - If he were to be elected, that would signal a HUGE leftward swing in American poltics.  Kitty Herder   Sep-03-09 05:09 PM   #166 
  - I chose Kucinich, but ...  damntexdem   Sep-03-09 01:51 PM   #118 
  - Same here. If only...  Kitty Herder   Sep-03-09 05:05 PM   #165 
  - Go Create Your Own Party  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 01:09 PM   #6 
  - so is kicking the bastards out when they don't represent their constituents....  mike_c   Sep-03-09 01:10 PM   #11 
  - And than some n/t  Echo In Light   Sep-03-09 01:20 PM   #41 
  - Go to Arkansas and North Dakota  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 01:27 PM   #73 
     - that may be true, but I think there is a clear public mandate...  mike_c   Sep-03-09 01:38 PM   #101 
     - Those are Democratic Party states  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 03:13 PM   #156 
     - Then what's Wyden's excuse?  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 06:04 PM   #180 
        - They'll all vote for a public option  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 06:30 PM   #181 
  - This IS my party and I've been instrumental in getting a Congressman and several state reps elected  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:10 PM   #12 
  - Florida?? lol. You're fucking state is half the problem n/t  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 01:26 PM   #71 
     - Yeah right... we went blue this time..,.sorry but you've guessed wrong nt.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:29 PM   #80 
        - lol. Florida is all about single payer health care  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 03:15 PM   #157 
  - Nah, I'll work the primaries. It's faster.  WeDidIt   Sep-03-09 01:44 PM   #112 
  - This is getting boring  blogslut   Sep-03-09 01:09 PM   #7 
  - Tiresome.  LiberalAndProud   Sep-03-09 01:40 PM   #103 
  - I worked hard on the Dean campaign in '04  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 01:09 PM   #9 
  - I worked hard for Dean too. He has no chance against Obama.  Hansel   Sep-03-09 01:31 PM   #85 
     - Agreed. I read the question as hypothetically strictly Dean or Kucinich.  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 01:58 PM   #133 
  - Neither.nt  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-03-09 01:10 PM   #10 
  - Who will you back?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 01:11 PM   #13 
  - Howard Dean!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:11 PM   #14 
     - Dean's an Obama man.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 01:13 PM   #18 
        - He's been a strong supporter of public option - if he fails me then I'll back Kucinich.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:14 PM   #22 
        - Kucinich is also an Obama man.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 01:15 PM   #23 
        - he won't be if Obama caves - try harder yourself..  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:17 PM   #33 
           - Sure he will.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 01:19 PM   #38 
              - Disagree...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:19 PM   #40 
              - Nah.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 01:21 PM   #48 
                 - Well... they seem to think Kucinich would run against a Dem...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:23 PM   #55 
                    - Occam's razor.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 01:24 PM   #59 
                       - Aha...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:26 PM   #70 
              - we need to work to throw the blue dogs out on their ass  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:21 PM   #43 
                 - Well, I'll agree with you there.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 01:22 PM   #52 
        - lol  Drunken Irishman   Sep-03-09 01:16 PM   #27 
        - It's true that Dean did a lot to make Obama's election possible  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 01:23 PM   #56 
           - Sebastian, you'd believe anything.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 01:25 PM   #64 
           - I've never said one word about chemtrails.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 01:40 PM   #104 
           - Dean did a lot to make quite a few Blue Dogs' election possible  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 05:51 PM   #177 
              - Don't blame him for that travesty.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 06:01 PM   #179 
                 - So, Emmanuel and Schumer should get the credit for winning Congress instead of Dean?  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 06:43 PM   #183 
                    - Those two backstabbers shouldn't get credit for shit.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 06:52 PM   #187 
  - STUPID!!! post niether is running against Obama  bigdarryl   Sep-03-09 01:12 PM   #15 
  - "stewie! stewie! stewie!"  kid a   Sep-03-09 01:12 PM   #16 
  - Kucinich is the answer!  Davis_X_Machina   Sep-03-09 01:12 PM   #17 
  - Howard Dean would never run but I wouldn't put it past Kucinich.  KittyWampus   Sep-03-09 01:13 PM   #19 
  - Disagree... Kucinich is a solid Dem. (nt)  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:16 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-09 01:13 PM   #20 
  - +1.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 01:16 PM   #30 
  - Yeah! No one should have larger principles! Everyone should be loyal to one politician!!!!  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:20 PM   #42 
  - How about you try seeing reality?  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:22 PM   #49 
     - That's an excellent argument for settling for mediocrity  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:24 PM   #58 
        - Call Kucnich...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:27 PM   #74 
           - No need. I saw the Bush supporters give their guy a blank check.  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:29 PM   #81 
              - No, really. Ask him if he'd ever consider what you're proposing.  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:30 PM   #83 
                 - Oooooh, a dare.  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:33 PM   #91 
                    - Oh FFS... it's just a fucking saying...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:35 PM   #96 
                       - Yes, I know it's just a saying. And I know that you used it  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:37 PM   # 
                          - LOL... you know that I used it, do you?  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:13 PM   #145 
  - I don't know what you said, but I suspect I liked it.  BlooInBloo   Sep-03-09 07:28 PM   #190 
     - It was short, unsweet, and to the point.  redqueen   Sep-04-09 02:58 PM   #240 
  - Why choose between the two?  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 01:13 PM   #21 
  - Stupid poll.  lamp_shade   Sep-03-09 01:15 PM   #24 
  - Good lord.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 01:15 PM   #25 
  - The Dean vs. Obama meme is starting to wear on me already......  FrenchieCat   Sep-03-09 01:16 PM   #29 
  - It's hard for Obama to get legislation passed, so I doubt very seriously...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 01:16 PM   #31 
  - Obama is too busy caving to actually try..n/t  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:18 PM   #37 
     - Oh, I didn't know you had a special hook-up to the Whitehouse...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 01:23 PM   #54 
        - You'd be surprised...I don't dream... I do. nt  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:26 PM   #66 
           - Yeah, right... Well, my "do" is mightier than yours...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 01:30 PM   #82 
              - Blah blah.. whatever... I know what I've done I don't know many who have done as much.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:37 PM   #99 
  - I'll back Kucinich even if Obama doesn't cave.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-03-09 01:17 PM   #32 
  - Unrec. Our man in 2012 is Obama. Period. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:18 PM   #34 
  - He might be YOUR man but he won't be MINE if he screws us on healthcare.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:19 PM   #39 
  - Thanks for the preview of the "divide and conquer" tactic that will no doubt come up in 2012. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:22 PM   #51 
     - Doesn't have to be that way if Obama will actually stand up for Democratic principles on this issue.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:25 PM   #60 
        - Last I heard, neither has Obama. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:25 PM   #65 
  - That's the kind of blank check the hard-core Bush supporters gave their guy.  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:21 PM   #46 
     - Yeah, a fractured Democratic Party in 2012. That's a winner! nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:23 PM   #57 
        - All for the party. Party over everything.  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:25 PM   #62 
        - Compared to what? President Palin? Because that's what a fractured party will deliver. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:26 PM   #68 
           - How much did that crystal ball cost you?  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:29 PM   #78 
              - You seemed stunned to find a loyal Democrat on DemocraticUnderground.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:32 PM   #86 
                 - I'm always stunned by people who are loyal to a party at any cost.  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:35 PM   #94 
                    - Over a Republican, any day. I'm not fooling myself that a primary challenge would benefit Dems.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:37 PM   #98 
                       - Oh, I know. I just wanted to clarify that there is nothing he could do to lose your support.  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:38 PM   #100 
                          - You seem to be confusing party with candidate.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:42 PM   #109 
                             - No, not when the party has a sitting President.  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:45 PM   #114 
                                - There's a subtler distinction.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:54 PM   #122 
                                   - I'll stick with principles over party or individual politicians.  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:02 PM   #135 
                                      - Thanks. And I'll stick to ensuring we have a Democratic administration rather than GOP. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:07 PM   #139 
                                         - If a "Democratic" administration is acting like a Republican administration  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 06:45 PM   #184 
                                            - Amidst all the profanity, what is your real-world alternative?  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 07:43 PM   #195 
                                               - In the REAL world (i.e. every industrialized country EXCEPT the United Corporations of AmeriKKKa)  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 08:14 PM   #206 
                                                  - Why don't we stick to winning U.S. elections. Because that's where we are in the real world.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 08:19 PM   #207 
                                                  - We won the last two elections (2006 & 2008)  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 08:30 PM   #208 
                                                  - No argument with that! nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 08:34 PM   #210 
                                                  - Dupe. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 09:37 PM   #212 
                                                  - Dupe. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 09:38 PM   #213 
                                                  - Dupe. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 09:38 PM   #214 
                                                  - No argument with that! (on your "We won" post) nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 09:40 PM   #215 
        - I think that's their intent. Fracture the party and the Repukes win. nt  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 01:26 PM   #67 
        - Yep. It's a conspiracy!  dem629   Sep-03-09 01:27 PM   #72 
        - I have no doubt the GOP will attempt to do this in the leadup to 2012. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:33 PM   #90 
        - The party is already fractured. The damn DLC fractured it!  Individualist   Sep-03-09 01:32 PM   #87 
           - No, I don't agree with that. There aren't huge Evan Bayh crowds out there. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:34 PM   #92 
  - Neither, the US of the Corporations, by the Corps and for the Corps  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 01:18 PM   #35 
  - why do you even bother to still participate in the process  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 01:21 PM   #44 
     - Local politics where I can still make a difference, perhaps  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 01:25 PM   #61 
     - In the bigger pic, I suspect many espousing the heterodox view already have one foot out the door  Echo In Light   Sep-03-09 01:35 PM   #95 
     - there is no real point in participating in the process  datasuspect   Sep-03-09 05:42 PM   #173 
  - Man, some people just don't get the concept of hypothetical. /nt  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 01:18 PM   #36 
  - Cheerleaders feeling the inevitable bearing down? n/t  Echo In Light   Sep-03-09 01:21 PM   #45 
     - I fear you may be right /nt  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 01:22 PM   #53 
  - Wes Clark.  Kalyke   Sep-03-09 01:21 PM   #47 
  - Dean has lied too much shilling for this "reform"  Oregone   Sep-03-09 01:25 PM   #63 
  - The President doesn't have a vote in the Senate  DefenseLawyer   Sep-03-09 01:26 PM   #69 
  - Actually NO - I'm a Democratic Precinct Committeeman in Orange County FL  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:31 PM   #84 
     - Ohhhh! Now, that turned out well, now didn't it???  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 01:37 PM   #97 
     - Actually it HAS but of course YOU wouldn't know the first thing about it.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:40 PM   #105 
        - No, I can't, but I'm sure all of us OBAMA supporters will do our part...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 01:54 PM   #121 
           - yeah right... I'm not so impressed with "the team"..  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:56 PM   #127 
              - You might not be impressed, but thank goodness it's not all about you.  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 02:10 PM   #143 
     - That's wonderful  DefenseLawyer   Sep-03-09 01:42 PM   #108 
     - Actually YES - a number of them - I've put about 5000 dollars and 5000 hours into the party  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:49 PM   #116 
     - and YES it is a PROTEST but NO it is NOT futile.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:52 PM   #119 
     - Then, instead of tearing down a Democratic president, why don't you help?  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 01:49 PM   #117 
        - Here's the point: Either the electeds do what you want or you vote them out!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:54 PM   #123 
           - There's also something called: timing.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:00 PM   #134 
           - Yawn... time is NOT on our side and this is the classic excuse.. "be patient"  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 05:46 PM   #175 
              - You're quite the expert at projections, aren't you, Doug D.?  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 07:48 PM   #200 
           - Other than Bill Nelson, who's a high level member of The Family, a blue dog's blue dog  suzie   Sep-04-09 06:54 AM   #233 
  - neither of them, nor anyone else will run in 2012 from teh dems at any rate  La Lioness Priyanka   Sep-03-09 01:28 PM   #75 
  - I may just not vote for the first time  FreeState   Sep-04-09 12:53 AM   #228 
  - Pathetic, truly pathetic n/t  Spazito   Sep-03-09 01:28 PM   #77 
  - The enemy already thinks that Obama is a Far Left wing loony Libril now.  RC   Sep-03-09 01:29 PM   #79 
  - OMG..talk about defeatist excuses...this is OUR country not the RW nut jobs.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:32 PM   #88 
  - Teddy ran against Carter in 1980...it didn't work and it didn't help the party  Jennicut   Sep-03-09 01:32 PM   #89 
  - President Obama in 2012  VAliberal   Sep-03-09 01:40 PM   #102 
  - Most likely ex-President Obama in 2013 if he screws us on healthcare.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:41 PM   #107 
  - Why is it so absolutely essential?  treestar   Sep-03-09 01:41 PM   #106 
  - Because anything less will end up being a total sellout to the insurance thieves.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:43 PM   #110 
  - Actually no... it'll save lives too... but hey, it's not good enough for you, I get it.  redqueen   Sep-03-09 01:45 PM   #113 
  - No it won't and you can stop interjecting your fantasies any time you like.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:56 PM   #129 
     - I think this all YOUR fantasy. You want Obama out so you can have  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 02:12 PM   #144 
     - I have subsidized insurance  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 06:31 PM   #182 
  - But we've done without it so far, so how would we be any worse off?  treestar   Sep-03-09 02:23 PM   #148 
  - The public option is the compromise  WeDidIt   Sep-03-09 01:45 PM   #115 
     - Thank you YES! If I REALLY got what I wanted it would be HR676!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:57 PM   #130 
     - Who wants to kill it? Nothing has happened to change anything.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 02:06 PM   #138 
  - kucinich? a loss in a landslide that would make reagans landslide look neck in neck.  dionysus   Sep-03-09 01:53 PM   #120 
  - When's the last time a same-party challenger has won the nomination  Common Sense Party   Sep-03-09 01:55 PM   #125 
  - Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated....no thanks!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:58 PM   #131 
  - Ha ha very cute. But has it EVER happened?  Common Sense Party   Sep-03-09 02:44 PM   #151 
  - Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated....no thanks!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 01:58 PM   #132 
  - LOL! Oh Noes!  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-03-09 02:09 PM   #141 
  - Yes, Franklin Pierce, who is a contender with Buchanan and Harding for worst president ever  Marsala   Sep-04-09 12:57 AM   #230 
     - Thank you for the answer! I didn't know if it had ever happened.  Common Sense Party   Sep-04-09 10:54 AM   #236 
  - Obama  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 01:55 PM   #126 
  - Poll: If Aliens invade Earth, who will lead the resistance?  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-03-09 02:02 PM   #136 
  - That's easy -- Torchwood -- oh wait... maybe not . nt :)  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:04 PM   #137 
  - Sookie Stackhouse and Eric Northman to the rescue!  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 02:07 PM   #140 
  - Obama  NeedleCast   Sep-03-09 02:09 PM   #142 
  - Obama. Dean and kucinich have both run and lost. No thanks..  Kahuna   Sep-03-09 02:19 PM   #146 
  - You will get Romney as President if Obama continues to CAVE in on Health Care.  Kansas Wyatt   Sep-03-09 06:00 PM   #178 
     - Then you will get what YOU deserve. I know what choice to make. nt  Kahuna   Sep-04-09 06:13 AM   #231 
        - It has nothing to do with 'me getting what I deserve'  Kansas Wyatt   Sep-04-09 11:03 AM   #237 
  - Idea! How about a woman on the list? Since we have never had a woman in oval office  Captain_Nemo   Sep-03-09 02:23 PM   #149 
  - You left out HRC  pscot   Sep-03-09 02:26 PM   #150 
  - Don't consider her a liberal so I left her out. nt  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:47 PM   #152 
     - Our party doesn't nominate liberals for President any more. Only moderates  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 06:46 PM   #185 
  - I'm 100% sure Obama will be re-elected  Generator   Sep-03-09 02:56 PM   #153 
  - Dean will not challenge Obama, and if DK does he will come in third in Ohio again.  WI_DEM   Sep-03-09 02:58 PM   #154 
  - I think Kucinich is quite capable of coming in a distant second in Ohio  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 06:51 PM   #186 
  - What some of you people don't seem to grasp is that Obama is going to get more on health care that  WI_DEM   Sep-03-09 02:59 PM   #155 
  - I'm Voting for Kucinich Regardless.  Toasterlad   Sep-03-09 03:27 PM   #158 
  - Well, even if he doesn't cave, I'm already looking for a primary option.....  joeybee12   Sep-03-09 03:29 PM   #159 
  - Eh... the GOP will have Congress in 2012.. hardly matters... nt  Blasphemer   Sep-03-09 04:32 PM   #163 
  - In that case, either of them would be preferable to me.  Vidar   Sep-03-09 04:44 PM   #164 
  - Gore with Kucinich or RFK Jr as VP. nt  earth mom   Sep-03-09 05:20 PM   #167 
  - They are both great! Include an "undecided" option n/t  Becky72   Sep-03-09 05:21 PM   #168 
  - Hey mom, lookit me!!! I'm postin' in a thread! w00t!!!  flvegan   Sep-03-09 05:23 PM   #169 
  - ...  tjwash   Sep-03-09 05:33 PM   #172 
  - Do You Know How Hard It Is To Mount A Serious Primary Challenge To An Incumbent President  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-03-09 05:26 PM   #170 
  - I want OBAMA  Raine   Sep-03-09 05:29 PM   #171 
  - Apparently we are in the minority here.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 07:44 PM   # 
  - I'd prefer Kuccinich, but Dean would certainly be better than Obama - less of a centrist  EndElectoral   Sep-03-09 05:47 PM   #176 
  - Which means he'd be unlikely to be elected by the general public.  Common Sense Party   Sep-03-09 07:33 PM   #193 
  - lololol!  BlooInBloo   Sep-03-09 07:24 PM   #189 
  - It's kinda magical.  WilliamPitt   Sep-03-09 07:46 PM   #198 
  - Neither, my choice is current Secretary of State  Thothmes   Sep-03-09 07:28 PM   #191 
  - You can smell the fear here. n/t  Greyhound   Sep-03-09 07:28 PM   #192 
  - What you smell is racism, pure and simple.  suzie   Sep-04-09 07:49 AM   #234 
     - LOL!  Greyhound   Sep-04-09 10:25 AM   #235 
        - I wasn't around DU for the early part of the primary season.  suzie   Sep-04-09 11:06 AM   #238 
           - We all lost a very long time ago.  Greyhound   Sep-04-09 02:57 PM   #239 
              - Then why are you here taking up space and whining about Obama everyday?  suzie   Sep-05-09 09:50 AM   #243 
  - where's neither  TheWebHead   Sep-03-09 07:41 PM   #194 
  - (facepalm)  WilliamPitt   Sep-03-09 07:44 PM   #196 
  - It's been like this all day. DU doesn't support the Democratic President.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 07:45 PM   #197 
  - DU is not America.  WilliamPitt   Sep-03-09 07:47 PM   #199 
     - And it may not be a place for Democrats who actually like the President, either.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 07:48 PM   #201 
        - Hello! nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 07:51 PM   #204 
  - Lol -- you rock, Will! nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 07:49 PM   #202 
  - Do these people think we'll ever forget these posts?  HughMoran   Sep-03-09 11:23 PM   #225 
  - Obama wins two terms.  saltpoint   Sep-03-09 09:04 PM   #211 
  - I back the President  krawhitham   Sep-03-09 09:49 PM   #216 
  - None of the above. We have a good president and whatever happens happens for the best.  wisteria   Sep-03-09 10:21 PM   #219 
  - Pfft. They won't even dump REID, let alone Obama.  donco6   Sep-03-09 10:22 PM   #220 
  - I leave all the 'what ifs' to Chris Matthews ~  bridgit   Sep-04-09 12:56 AM   #229 
  - I am hoping that he doesn't cave.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-04-09 03:02 PM   #241 
 

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