ddeclue
(1000+ posts)
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Thu Sep-03-09 02:07 PM
Original message |
| Poll question: If Obama caves on public option: Who do you back in primary in 2012: Dean or Kucinich? |
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It appears likely that we are going to get screwed by fake reform which forces us all to buy a policy from the insurance thieves that won't be worth the paper it's printed on but we will NOT get a REAL public option - it will be held off for years and even then only with a trigger that only the insurance thieves have control over. If this happens, if Obama sells us out, my question is who do we back to primary Obama in 2012: Dean or Kucinich?
| Poll result (188 votes) | | Howard Dean | (129 votes, 69%) | Vote | | Dennis Kucinich | (59 votes, 31%) | Vote |
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If Obama caves on public option: Who do you back in primary in 2012: Dean or Kucinich? |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:07 PM |
#0 |

Obama. |
Buzz Clik |
Sep-03-09 02:07 PM |
#1 |
 
not an option in this poll |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:08 PM |
#5 |
  
Obama as neither of the poll's options will be options in 2012 either. |
Hansel |
Sep-03-09 02:28 PM |
#76 |
   
That's what I was told about Obama in 2005 |
WeDidIt |
Sep-03-09 02:43 PM |
#111 |
  
Not by me you weren't. I expected Obama to be president if he ran. nt |
Hansel |
Sep-03-09 02:56 PM |
#128 |
  
But it will be an option outside of fantasy land |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-03-09 02:55 PM |
#124 |
 
Pres. Obama's problem here |
wpelb |
Sep-03-09 02:34 PM |
#93 |
  
I find that pretty simplistic and ignoring the stark realities of politics. |
Buzz Clik |
Sep-03-09 03:19 PM |
#147 |
 
No doubt... |
NotThisTime |
Sep-03-09 06:44 PM |
#174 |

What makes you think either would run? |
Drunken Irishman |
Sep-03-09 02:08 PM |
#2 |

I'm not sure why anyone would blame Obama? He isn't on the finance |
mzmolly |
Sep-03-09 02:08 PM |
#3 |
 
Why choose? I'll work to primary Bill Nelson here in Florida too! |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:09 PM |
#8 |
 
Obama is the head of the party.... |
Yuugal |
Sep-03-09 04:36 PM |
#160 |
  
But he's not a dictator. |
mzmolly |
Sep-03-09 05:07 PM |
#161 |
 
The president is the leader of the party. |
Yuugal |
Sep-03-09 05:29 PM |
#162 |
  
We live in a democracy. Obama is the President, not |
mzmolly |
Sep-03-09 08:19 PM |
#188 |
 
Well I'll be consistent and say if the Public Option dies Primary ALL of them! |
MessiahRp |
Sep-03-09 11:00 PM |
#217 |
 
same. |
knixphan |
Sep-03-09 08:50 PM |
#203 |
 
The minute Obama signs a shitty bill, he owns the failure outright. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 09:32 PM |
#209 |

I think the term "shitty" is subjective |
mzmolly |
Sep-03-09 11:17 PM |
#218 |

Anything short of a True Public Option |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 11:23 PM |
#221 |

According to many of us |
mzmolly |
Sep-03-09 11:56 PM |
#222 |

There is NO reform without the public option |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-04-09 12:20 AM |
#223 |

Regulation |
mzmolly |
Sep-04-09 12:22 AM |
#224 |

And everything that's happened to this country since 1980 |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-04-09 12:37 AM |
#226 |

True, but we needn't stop at regulation. |
mzmolly |
Sep-04-09 01:18 AM |
#227 |

Kucinich, all the way.... |
mike_c |
Sep-03-09 02:08 PM |
#4 |
 
Why? A President Kucinich would get absolutely nothing done. Well, he'd certainly spout off |
KittyWampus |
Sep-03-09 02:16 PM |
#28 |
  
because even so, the first step toward getting any liberal policies enacted... |
mike_c |
Sep-03-09 02:22 PM |
#50 |
   
can't argue with that. |
knixphan |
Sep-03-09 08:52 PM |
#205 |
   
So , Kucinich wouldn't be ineffective. |
suzie |
Sep-04-09 07:43 AM |
#232 |
  
what part of... |
mike_c |
Sep-04-09 06:28 PM |
#242 |
  
+1. The strategy of loading up local offices with Progressives would be far more effective. nt |
Hansel |
Sep-03-09 02:30 PM |
# |
  
If he were to be elected, that would signal a HUGE leftward swing in American poltics. |
Kitty Herder |
Sep-03-09 06:09 PM |
#166 |
 
I chose Kucinich, but ... |
damntexdem |
Sep-03-09 02:51 PM |
#118 |
 
Same here. If only... |
Kitty Herder |
Sep-03-09 06:05 PM |
#165 |

Go Create Your Own Party |
sandnsea |
Sep-03-09 02:09 PM |
#6 |
 
so is kicking the bastards out when they don't represent their constituents.... |
mike_c |
Sep-03-09 02:10 PM |
#11 |
  
And than some n/t |
Echo In Light |
Sep-03-09 02:20 PM |
#41 |
  
Go to Arkansas and North Dakota |
sandnsea |
Sep-03-09 02:27 PM |
#73 |
 
that may be true, but I think there is a clear public mandate... |
mike_c |
Sep-03-09 02:38 PM |
#101 |
  
Those are Democratic Party states |
sandnsea |
Sep-03-09 04:13 PM |
#156 |
 
Then what's Wyden's excuse? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 07:04 PM |
#180 |
 
They'll all vote for a public option |
sandnsea |
Sep-03-09 07:30 PM |
#181 |
 
This IS my party and I've been instrumental in getting a Congressman and several state reps elected |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:10 PM |
#12 |
  
Florida?? lol. You're fucking state is half the problem n/t |
sandnsea |
Sep-03-09 02:26 PM |
#71 |
 
Yeah right... we went blue this time..,.sorry but you've guessed wrong nt. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:29 PM |
#80 |
 
lol. Florida is all about single payer health care |
sandnsea |
Sep-03-09 04:15 PM |
#157 |
 
Nah, I'll work the primaries. It's faster. |
WeDidIt |
Sep-03-09 02:44 PM |
#112 |

This is getting boring |
blogslut |
Sep-03-09 02:09 PM |
#7 |
 
Tiresome. |
LiberalAndProud |
Sep-03-09 02:40 PM |
#103 |

I worked hard on the Dean campaign in '04 |
MindPilot |
Sep-03-09 02:09 PM |
#9 |
 
I worked hard for Dean too. He has no chance against Obama. |
Hansel |
Sep-03-09 02:31 PM |
#85 |

Agreed. I read the question as hypothetically strictly Dean or Kucinich. |
MindPilot |
Sep-03-09 02:58 PM |
#133 |

Neither.nt |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-03-09 02:10 PM |
#10 |

Who will you back? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 02:11 PM |
#13 |
 
Howard Dean! |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:11 PM |
#14 |

Dean's an Obama man. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 02:13 PM |
#18 |

He's been a strong supporter of public option - if he fails me then I'll back Kucinich. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:14 PM |
#22 |
 
Kucinich is also an Obama man. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 02:15 PM |
#23 |
  
he won't be if Obama caves - try harder yourself.. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:17 PM |
#33 |
 
Sure he will. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 02:19 PM |
#38 |
 
Disagree... |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:19 PM |
#40 |
  
Nah. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 02:21 PM |
#48 |
 
Well... they seem to think Kucinich would run against a Dem... |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:23 PM |
#55 |
 
Occam's razor. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 02:24 PM |
#59 |
 
Aha... |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:26 PM |
#70 |
 
we need to work to throw the blue dogs out on their ass |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:21 PM |
#43 |
 
Well, I'll agree with you there. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 02:22 PM |
#52 |
 
lol |
Drunken Irishman |
Sep-03-09 02:16 PM |
#27 |

It's true that Dean did a lot to make Obama's election possible |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 02:23 PM |
#56 |

Sebastian, you'd believe anything. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 02:25 PM |
#64 |
 
I've never said one word about chemtrails. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 02:40 PM |
#104 |

Dean did a lot to make quite a few Blue Dogs' election possible |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-03-09 06:51 PM |
#177 |

Don't blame him for that travesty. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 07:01 PM |
#179 |

So, Emmanuel and Schumer should get the credit for winning Congress instead of Dean? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-03-09 07:43 PM |
#183 |

Those two backstabbers shouldn't get credit for shit. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 07:52 PM |
#187 |

STUPID!!! post niether is running against Obama |
bigdarryl |
Sep-03-09 02:12 PM |
#15 |

"stewie! stewie! stewie!" |
kid a |
Sep-03-09 02:12 PM |
#16 |

Kucinich is the answer! |
Davis_X_Machina |
Sep-03-09 02:12 PM |
#17 |

Howard Dean would never run but I wouldn't put it past Kucinich. |
KittyWampus |
Sep-03-09 02:13 PM |
#19 |
 
Disagree... Kucinich is a solid Dem. (nt) |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:16 PM |
#26 |

Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-03-09 02:13 PM |
#20 |
 
+1. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 02:16 PM |
#30 |
 
Yeah! No one should have larger principles! Everyone should be loyal to one politician!!!! |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:20 PM |
#42 |
  
How about you try seeing reality? |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:22 PM |
#49 |
 
That's an excellent argument for settling for mediocrity |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:24 PM |
#58 |
 
Call Kucnich... |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:27 PM |
#74 |
 
No need. I saw the Bush supporters give their guy a blank check. |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:29 PM |
#81 |
 
No, really. Ask him if he'd ever consider what you're proposing. |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:30 PM |
#83 |
 
Oooooh, a dare. |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:33 PM |
#91 |
 
Oh FFS... it's just a fucking saying... |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:35 PM |
#96 |
 
Yes, I know it's just a saying. And I know that you used it |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:37 PM |
# |
 
LOL... you know that I used it, do you? |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 03:13 PM |
#145 |
 
I don't know what you said, but I suspect I liked it. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-03-09 08:28 PM |
#190 |

It was short, unsweet, and to the point. |
redqueen |
Sep-04-09 03:58 PM |
#240 |

Why choose between the two? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 02:13 PM |
#21 |

Stupid poll. |
lamp_shade |
Sep-03-09 02:15 PM |
#24 |

Good lord. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 02:15 PM |
#25 |

The Dean vs. Obama meme is starting to wear on me already...... |
FrenchieCat |
Sep-03-09 02:16 PM |
#29 |

It's hard for Obama to get legislation passed, so I doubt very seriously... |
kjackson227 |
Sep-03-09 02:16 PM |
#31 |
 
Obama is too busy caving to actually try..n/t |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:18 PM |
#37 |

Oh, I didn't know you had a special hook-up to the Whitehouse... |
kjackson227 |
Sep-03-09 02:23 PM |
#54 |

You'd be surprised...I don't dream... I do. nt |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:26 PM |
#66 |

Yeah, right... Well, my "do" is mightier than yours... |
kjackson227 |
Sep-03-09 02:30 PM |
#82 |

Blah blah.. whatever... I know what I've done I don't know many who have done as much. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:37 PM |
#99 |

I'll back Kucinich even if Obama doesn't cave. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-03-09 02:17 PM |
#32 |

Unrec. Our man in 2012 is Obama. Period. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:18 PM |
#34 |
 
He might be YOUR man but he won't be MINE if he screws us on healthcare. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:19 PM |
#39 |
  
Thanks for the preview of the "divide and conquer" tactic that will no doubt come up in 2012. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:22 PM |
#51 |
 
Doesn't have to be that way if Obama will actually stand up for Democratic principles on this issue. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:25 PM |
#60 |
 
Last I heard, neither has Obama. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:25 PM |
#65 |
 
That's the kind of blank check the hard-core Bush supporters gave their guy. |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:21 PM |
#46 |

Yeah, a fractured Democratic Party in 2012. That's a winner! nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:23 PM |
#57 |

All for the party. Party over everything. |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:25 PM |
#62 |
 
Compared to what? President Palin? Because that's what a fractured party will deliver. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:26 PM |
#68 |

How much did that crystal ball cost you? |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:29 PM |
#78 |

You seemed stunned to find a loyal Democrat on DemocraticUnderground. |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:32 PM |
#86 |

I'm always stunned by people who are loyal to a party at any cost. |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:35 PM |
#94 |

Over a Republican, any day. I'm not fooling myself that a primary challenge would benefit Dems. |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:37 PM |
#98 |

Oh, I know. I just wanted to clarify that there is nothing he could do to lose your support. |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:38 PM |
#100 |

You seem to be confusing party with candidate. |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:42 PM |
#109 |

No, not when the party has a sitting President. |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:45 PM |
#114 |

There's a subtler distinction. |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:54 PM |
#122 |

I'll stick with principles over party or individual politicians. |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 03:02 PM |
#135 |

Thanks. And I'll stick to ensuring we have a Democratic administration rather than GOP. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 03:07 PM |
#139 |

If a "Democratic" administration is acting like a Republican administration |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 07:45 PM |
#184 |

Amidst all the profanity, what is your real-world alternative? |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 08:43 PM |
#195 |

In the REAL world (i.e. every industrialized country EXCEPT the United Corporations of AmeriKKKa) |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 09:14 PM |
#206 |

Why don't we stick to winning U.S. elections. Because that's where we are in the real world. |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 09:19 PM |
#207 |

We won the last two elections (2006 & 2008) |
Sebastian Doyle |
Sep-03-09 09:30 PM |
#208 |

No argument with that! nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 09:34 PM |
#210 |

Dupe. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 10:37 PM |
#212 |

Dupe. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 10:38 PM |
#213 |

Dupe. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 10:38 PM |
#214 |

No argument with that! (on your "We won" post) nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 10:40 PM |
#215 |

I think that's their intent. Fracture the party and the Repukes win. nt |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 02:26 PM |
#67 |
 
Yep. It's a conspiracy! |
dem629 |
Sep-03-09 02:27 PM |
#72 |
 
I have no doubt the GOP will attempt to do this in the leadup to 2012. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:33 PM |
#90 |

The party is already fractured. The damn DLC fractured it! |
Individualist |
Sep-03-09 02:32 PM |
#87 |

No, I don't agree with that. There aren't huge Evan Bayh crowds out there. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:34 PM |
#92 |

Neither, the US of the Corporations, by the Corps and for the Corps |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-03-09 02:18 PM |
#35 |
 
why do you even bother to still participate in the process |
MindPilot |
Sep-03-09 02:21 PM |
#44 |

Local politics where I can still make a difference, perhaps |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-03-09 02:25 PM |
#61 |

In the bigger pic, I suspect many espousing the heterodox view already have one foot out the door |
Echo In Light |
Sep-03-09 02:35 PM |
#95 |

there is no real point in participating in the process |
datasuspect |
Sep-03-09 06:42 PM |
#173 |

Man, some people just don't get the concept of hypothetical. /nt |
MindPilot |
Sep-03-09 02:18 PM |
#36 |
 
Cheerleaders feeling the inevitable bearing down? n/t |
Echo In Light |
Sep-03-09 02:21 PM |
#45 |

I fear you may be right /nt |
MindPilot |
Sep-03-09 02:22 PM |
#53 |

Wes Clark. |
Kalyke |
Sep-03-09 02:21 PM |
#47 |

Dean has lied too much shilling for this "reform" |
Oregone |
Sep-03-09 02:25 PM |
#63 |

The President doesn't have a vote in the Senate |
DefenseLawyer |
Sep-03-09 02:26 PM |
#69 |
 
Actually NO - I'm a Democratic Precinct Committeeman in Orange County FL |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:31 PM |
#84 |

Ohhhh! Now, that turned out well, now didn't it??? |
kjackson227 |
Sep-03-09 02:37 PM |
#97 |
 
Actually it HAS but of course YOU wouldn't know the first thing about it. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:40 PM |
#105 |

No, I can't, but I'm sure all of us OBAMA supporters will do our part... |
kjackson227 |
Sep-03-09 02:54 PM |
#121 |

yeah right... I'm not so impressed with "the team".. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:56 PM |
#127 |

You might not be impressed, but thank goodness it's not all about you. |
kjackson227 |
Sep-03-09 03:10 PM |
#143 |

That's wonderful |
DefenseLawyer |
Sep-03-09 02:42 PM |
#108 |
 
Actually YES - a number of them - I've put about 5000 dollars and 5000 hours into the party |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:49 PM |
#116 |
 
and YES it is a PROTEST but NO it is NOT futile. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:52 PM |
#119 |

Then, instead of tearing down a Democratic president, why don't you help? |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 02:49 PM |
#117 |

Here's the point: Either the electeds do what you want or you vote them out! |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:54 PM |
#123 |

There's also something called: timing. |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 03:00 PM |
#134 |
 
Yawn... time is NOT on our side and this is the classic excuse.. "be patient" |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 06:46 PM |
#175 |

You're quite the expert at projections, aren't you, Doug D.? |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 08:48 PM |
#200 |

Other than Bill Nelson, who's a high level member of The Family, a blue dog's blue dog |
suzie |
Sep-04-09 07:54 AM |
#233 |

neither of them, nor anyone else will run in 2012 from teh dems at any rate |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Sep-03-09 02:28 PM |
#75 |
 
I may just not vote for the first time |
FreeState |
Sep-04-09 01:53 AM |
#228 |

Pathetic, truly pathetic n/t |
Spazito |
Sep-03-09 02:28 PM |
#77 |

The enemy already thinks that Obama is a Far Left wing loony Libril now. |
RC |
Sep-03-09 02:29 PM |
#79 |
 
OMG..talk about defeatist excuses...this is OUR country not the RW nut jobs. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:32 PM |
#88 |

Teddy ran against Carter in 1980...it didn't work and it didn't help the party |
Jennicut |
Sep-03-09 02:32 PM |
#89 |

President Obama in 2012 |
VAliberal |
Sep-03-09 02:40 PM |
#102 |
 
Most likely ex-President Obama in 2013 if he screws us on healthcare. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:41 PM |
#107 |

Why is it so absolutely essential? |
treestar |
Sep-03-09 02:41 PM |
#106 |
 
Because anything less will end up being a total sellout to the insurance thieves. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:43 PM |
#110 |
  
Actually no... it'll save lives too... but hey, it's not good enough for you, I get it. |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 02:45 PM |
#113 |
   
No it won't and you can stop interjecting your fantasies any time you like. |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:56 PM |
#129 |
  
I think this all YOUR fantasy. You want Obama out so you can have |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 03:12 PM |
#144 |
  
I have subsidized insurance |
sandnsea |
Sep-03-09 07:31 PM |
#182 |
  
But we've done without it so far, so how would we be any worse off? |
treestar |
Sep-03-09 03:23 PM |
#148 |
 
The public option is the compromise |
WeDidIt |
Sep-03-09 02:45 PM |
#115 |

Thank you YES! If I REALLY got what I wanted it would be HR676! |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:57 PM |
#130 |

Who wants to kill it? Nothing has happened to change anything. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 03:06 PM |
#138 |

kucinich? a loss in a landslide that would make reagans landslide look neck in neck. |
dionysus |
Sep-03-09 02:53 PM |
#120 |

When's the last time a same-party challenger has won the nomination |
Common Sense Party |
Sep-03-09 02:55 PM |
#125 |
 
Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated....no thanks! |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:58 PM |
#131 |
  
Ha ha very cute. But has it EVER happened? |
Common Sense Party |
Sep-03-09 03:44 PM |
#151 |
 
Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated....no thanks! |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 02:58 PM |
#132 |
  
LOL! Oh Noes! |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Sep-03-09 03:09 PM |
#141 |
 
Yes, Franklin Pierce, who is a contender with Buchanan and Harding for worst president ever |
Marsala |
Sep-04-09 01:57 AM |
#230 |

Thank you for the answer! I didn't know if it had ever happened. |
Common Sense Party |
Sep-04-09 11:54 AM |
#236 |

Obama |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-03-09 02:55 PM |
#126 |

Poll: If Aliens invade Earth, who will lead the resistance? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Sep-03-09 03:02 PM |
#136 |
 
That's easy -- Torchwood -- oh wait... maybe not . nt :) |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 03:04 PM |
#137 |
 
Sookie Stackhouse and Eric Northman to the rescue! |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 03:07 PM |
#140 |

Obama |
NeedleCast |
Sep-03-09 03:09 PM |
#142 |

Obama. Dean and kucinich have both run and lost. No thanks.. |
Kahuna |
Sep-03-09 03:19 PM |
#146 |
 
You will get Romney as President if Obama continues to CAVE in on Health Care. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-03-09 07:00 PM |
#178 |

Then you will get what YOU deserve. I know what choice to make. nt |
Kahuna |
Sep-04-09 07:13 AM |
#231 |

It has nothing to do with 'me getting what I deserve' |
Kansas Wyatt |
Sep-04-09 12:03 PM |
#237 |

Idea! How about a woman on the list? Since we have never had a woman in oval office |
Captain_Nemo |
Sep-03-09 03:23 PM |
#149 |

You left out HRC |
pscot |
Sep-03-09 03:26 PM |
#150 |
 
Don't consider her a liberal so I left her out. nt |
ddeclue |
Sep-03-09 03:47 PM |
#152 |

Our party doesn't nominate liberals for President any more. Only moderates |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-03-09 07:46 PM |
#185 |

I'm 100% sure Obama will be re-elected |
Generator |
Sep-03-09 03:56 PM |
#153 |

Dean will not challenge Obama, and if DK does he will come in third in Ohio again. |
WI_DEM |
Sep-03-09 03:58 PM |
#154 |
 
I think Kucinich is quite capable of coming in a distant second in Ohio |
Freddie Stubbs |
Sep-03-09 07:51 PM |
#186 |

What some of you people don't seem to grasp is that Obama is going to get more on health care that |
WI_DEM |
Sep-03-09 03:59 PM |
#155 |

I'm Voting for Kucinich Regardless. |
Toasterlad |
Sep-03-09 04:27 PM |
#158 |

Well, even if he doesn't cave, I'm already looking for a primary option..... |
joeybee12 |
Sep-03-09 04:29 PM |
#159 |

Eh... the GOP will have Congress in 2012.. hardly matters... nt |
Blasphemer |
Sep-03-09 05:32 PM |
#163 |

In that case, either of them would be preferable to me. |
Vidar |
Sep-03-09 05:44 PM |
#164 |

Gore with Kucinich or RFK Jr as VP. nt |
earth mom |
Sep-03-09 06:20 PM |
#167 |

They are both great! Include an "undecided" option n/t |
Becky72 |
Sep-03-09 06:21 PM |
#168 |

Hey mom, lookit me!!! I'm postin' in a thread! w00t!!! |
flvegan |
Sep-03-09 06:23 PM |
#169 |
 
... |
tjwash |
Sep-03-09 06:33 PM |
#172 |

Do You Know How Hard It Is To Mount A Serious Primary Challenge To An Incumbent President |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-03-09 06:26 PM |
#170 |

I want OBAMA |
Raine |
Sep-03-09 06:29 PM |
#171 |
 
Apparently we are in the minority here. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 08:44 PM |
# |

I'd prefer Kuccinich, but Dean would certainly be better than Obama - less of a centrist |
EndElectoral |
Sep-03-09 06:47 PM |
#176 |
 
Which means he'd be unlikely to be elected by the general public. |
Common Sense Party |
Sep-03-09 08:33 PM |
#193 |

lololol! |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-03-09 08:24 PM |
#189 |
 
It's kinda magical. |
WilliamPitt |
Sep-03-09 08:46 PM |
#198 |

Neither, my choice is current Secretary of State |
Thothmes |
Sep-03-09 08:28 PM |
#191 |

You can smell the fear here. n/t |
Greyhound |
Sep-03-09 08:28 PM |
#192 |
 
What you smell is racism, pure and simple. |
suzie |
Sep-04-09 08:49 AM |
#234 |

LOL! |
Greyhound |
Sep-04-09 11:25 AM |
#235 |

I wasn't around DU for the early part of the primary season. |
suzie |
Sep-04-09 12:06 PM |
#238 |

We all lost a very long time ago. |
Greyhound |
Sep-04-09 03:57 PM |
#239 |

Then why are you here taking up space and whining about Obama everyday? |
suzie |
Sep-05-09 10:50 AM |
#243 |

where's neither |
TheWebHead |
Sep-03-09 08:41 PM |
#194 |

(facepalm) |
WilliamPitt |
Sep-03-09 08:44 PM |
#196 |
 
It's been like this all day. DU doesn't support the Democratic President. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 08:45 PM |
#197 |
  
DU is not America. |
WilliamPitt |
Sep-03-09 08:47 PM |
#199 |
 
And it may not be a place for Democrats who actually like the President, either. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-09 08:48 PM |
#201 |
 
Hello! nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 08:51 PM |
#204 |
 
Lol -- you rock, Will! nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-09 08:49 PM |
#202 |
 
Do these people think we'll ever forget these posts? |
HughMoran |
Sep-04-09 12:23 AM |
#225 |

Obama wins two terms. |
saltpoint |
Sep-03-09 10:04 PM |
#211 |

I back the President |
krawhitham |
Sep-03-09 10:49 PM |
#216 |

None of the above. We have a good president and whatever happens happens for the best. |
wisteria |
Sep-03-09 11:21 PM |
#219 |

Pfft. They won't even dump REID, let alone Obama. |
donco6 |
Sep-03-09 11:22 PM |
#220 |

I leave all the 'what ifs' to Chris Matthews ~ |
bridgit |
Sep-04-09 01:56 AM |
#229 |

I am hoping that he doesn't cave. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Sep-04-09 04:02 PM |
#241 |