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Poll question: If Obama caves on public option: Who do you back in primary in 2012: Dean or Kucinich?
It appears likely that we are going to get screwed by fake reform which forces us all to buy a policy from the insurance thieves that won't be worth the paper it's printed on but we will NOT get a REAL public option - it will be held off for years and even then only with a trigger that only the insurance thieves have control over.

If this happens, if Obama sells us out, my question is who do we back to primary Obama in 2012:

Dean or Kucinich?

Poll result (188 votes)
Howard Dean (129 votes, 69%)Vote
Dennis Kucinich (59 votes, 31%)Vote

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  If Obama caves on public option: Who do you back in primary in 2012: Dean or Kucinich? ddeclue  Sep-03-09 02:07 PM   #0 
   Obama.  Buzz Clik   Sep-03-09 02:07 PM   #1 
   not an option in this poll  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:08 PM   #5 
   Obama as neither of the poll's options will be options in 2012 either.  Hansel   Sep-03-09 02:28 PM   #76 
   That's what I was told about Obama in 2005  WeDidIt   Sep-03-09 02:43 PM   #111 
      Not by me you weren't. I expected Obama to be president if he ran. nt  Hansel   Sep-03-09 02:56 PM   #128 
   But it will be an option outside of fantasy land  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 02:55 PM   #124 
   Pres. Obama's problem here  wpelb   Sep-03-09 02:34 PM   #93 
   I find that pretty simplistic and ignoring the stark realities of politics.  Buzz Clik   Sep-03-09 03:19 PM   #147 
   No doubt...  NotThisTime   Sep-03-09 06:44 PM   #174 
   What makes you think either would run?  Drunken Irishman   Sep-03-09 02:08 PM   #2 
   I'm not sure why anyone would blame Obama? He isn't on the finance  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 02:08 PM   #3 
   Why choose? I'll work to primary Bill Nelson here in Florida too!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:09 PM   #8 
   Obama is the head of the party....  Yuugal   Sep-03-09 04:36 PM   #160 
   But he's not a dictator.  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 05:07 PM   #161 
      The president is the leader of the party.  Yuugal   Sep-03-09 05:29 PM   #162 
      We live in a democracy. Obama is the President, not  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 08:19 PM   #188 
      Well I'll be consistent and say if the Public Option dies Primary ALL of them!  MessiahRp   Sep-03-09 11:00 PM   #217 
   same.  knixphan   Sep-03-09 08:50 PM   #203 
   The minute Obama signs a shitty bill, he owns the failure outright.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 09:32 PM   #209 
      I think the term "shitty" is subjective  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 11:17 PM   #218 
         Anything short of a True Public Option  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 11:23 PM   #221 
            According to many of us  mzmolly   Sep-03-09 11:56 PM   #222 
               There is NO reform without the public option  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-04-09 12:20 AM   #223 
                  Regulation  mzmolly   Sep-04-09 12:22 AM   #224 
                     And everything that's happened to this country since 1980  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-04-09 12:37 AM   #226 
                        True, but we needn't stop at regulation.  mzmolly   Sep-04-09 01:18 AM   #227 
   Kucinich, all the way....  mike_c   Sep-03-09 02:08 PM   #4 
   Why? A President Kucinich would get absolutely nothing done. Well, he'd certainly spout off  KittyWampus   Sep-03-09 02:16 PM   #28 
   because even so, the first step toward getting any liberal policies enacted...  mike_c   Sep-03-09 02:22 PM   #50 
   can't argue with that.  knixphan   Sep-03-09 08:52 PM   #205 
   So , Kucinich wouldn't be ineffective.  suzie   Sep-04-09 07:43 AM   #232 
      what part of...  mike_c   Sep-04-09 06:28 PM   #242 
   +1. The strategy of loading up local offices with Progressives would be far more effective. nt  Hansel   Sep-03-09 02:30 PM   # 
   If he were to be elected, that would signal a HUGE leftward swing in American poltics.  Kitty Herder   Sep-03-09 06:09 PM   #166 
   I chose Kucinich, but ...  damntexdem   Sep-03-09 02:51 PM   #118 
   Same here. If only...  Kitty Herder   Sep-03-09 06:05 PM   #165 
   Go Create Your Own Party  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 02:09 PM   #6 
   so is kicking the bastards out when they don't represent their constituents....  mike_c   Sep-03-09 02:10 PM   #11 
   And than some n/t  Echo In Light   Sep-03-09 02:20 PM   #41 
   Go to Arkansas and North Dakota  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 02:27 PM   #73 
      that may be true, but I think there is a clear public mandate...  mike_c   Sep-03-09 02:38 PM   #101 
      Those are Democratic Party states  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 04:13 PM   #156 
      Then what's Wyden's excuse?  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 07:04 PM   #180 
         They'll all vote for a public option  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 07:30 PM   #181 
   This IS my party and I've been instrumental in getting a Congressman and several state reps elected  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:10 PM   #12 
   Florida?? lol. You're fucking state is half the problem n/t  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 02:26 PM   #71 
      Yeah right... we went blue this time..,.sorry but you've guessed wrong nt.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:29 PM   #80 
         lol. Florida is all about single payer health care  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 04:15 PM   #157 
   Nah, I'll work the primaries. It's faster.  WeDidIt   Sep-03-09 02:44 PM   #112 
   This is getting boring  blogslut   Sep-03-09 02:09 PM   #7 
   Tiresome.  LiberalAndProud   Sep-03-09 02:40 PM   #103 
   I worked hard on the Dean campaign in '04  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 02:09 PM   #9 
   I worked hard for Dean too. He has no chance against Obama.  Hansel   Sep-03-09 02:31 PM   #85 
      Agreed. I read the question as hypothetically strictly Dean or Kucinich.  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 02:58 PM   #133 
   Neither.nt  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-03-09 02:10 PM   #10 
   Who will you back?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 02:11 PM   #13 
   Howard Dean!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:11 PM   #14 
      Dean's an Obama man.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 02:13 PM   #18 
         He's been a strong supporter of public option - if he fails me then I'll back Kucinich.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:14 PM   #22 
         Kucinich is also an Obama man.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 02:15 PM   #23 
         he won't be if Obama caves - try harder yourself..  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:17 PM   #33 
            Sure he will.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 02:19 PM   #38 
               Disagree...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:19 PM   #40 
               Nah.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 02:21 PM   #48 
                  Well... they seem to think Kucinich would run against a Dem...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:23 PM   #55 
                     Occam's razor.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 02:24 PM   #59 
                        Aha...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:26 PM   #70 
               we need to work to throw the blue dogs out on their ass  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:21 PM   #43 
                  Well, I'll agree with you there.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 02:22 PM   #52 
         lol  Drunken Irishman   Sep-03-09 02:16 PM   #27 
         It's true that Dean did a lot to make Obama's election possible  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 02:23 PM   #56 
            Sebastian, you'd believe anything.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-03-09 02:25 PM   #64 
            I've never said one word about chemtrails.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 02:40 PM   #104 
            Dean did a lot to make quite a few Blue Dogs' election possible  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 06:51 PM   #177 
               Don't blame him for that travesty.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 07:01 PM   #179 
                  So, Emmanuel and Schumer should get the credit for winning Congress instead of Dean?  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 07:43 PM   #183 
                     Those two backstabbers shouldn't get credit for shit.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 07:52 PM   #187 
   STUPID!!! post niether is running against Obama  bigdarryl   Sep-03-09 02:12 PM   #15 
   "stewie! stewie! stewie!"  kid a   Sep-03-09 02:12 PM   #16 
   Kucinich is the answer!  Davis_X_Machina   Sep-03-09 02:12 PM   #17 
   Howard Dean would never run but I wouldn't put it past Kucinich.  KittyWampus   Sep-03-09 02:13 PM   #19 
   Disagree... Kucinich is a solid Dem. (nt)  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:16 PM   #26 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-09 02:13 PM   #20 
   +1.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 02:16 PM   #30 
   Yeah! No one should have larger principles! Everyone should be loyal to one politician!!!!  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:20 PM   #42 
   How about you try seeing reality?  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:22 PM   #49 
      That's an excellent argument for settling for mediocrity  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:24 PM   #58 
         Call Kucnich...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:27 PM   #74 
            No need. I saw the Bush supporters give their guy a blank check.  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:29 PM   #81 
               No, really. Ask him if he'd ever consider what you're proposing.  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:30 PM   #83 
                  Oooooh, a dare.  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:33 PM   #91 
                     Oh FFS... it's just a fucking saying...  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:35 PM   #96 
                        Yes, I know it's just a saying. And I know that you used it  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:37 PM   # 
                           LOL... you know that I used it, do you?  redqueen   Sep-03-09 03:13 PM   #145 
   I don't know what you said, but I suspect I liked it.  BlooInBloo   Sep-03-09 08:28 PM   #190 
      It was short, unsweet, and to the point.  redqueen   Sep-04-09 03:58 PM   #240 
   Why choose between the two?  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 02:13 PM   #21 
   Stupid poll.  lamp_shade   Sep-03-09 02:15 PM   #24 
   Good lord.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 02:15 PM   #25 
   The Dean vs. Obama meme is starting to wear on me already......  FrenchieCat   Sep-03-09 02:16 PM   #29 
   It's hard for Obama to get legislation passed, so I doubt very seriously...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 02:16 PM   #31 
   Obama is too busy caving to actually try..n/t  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:18 PM   #37 
      Oh, I didn't know you had a special hook-up to the Whitehouse...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 02:23 PM   #54 
         You'd be surprised...I don't dream... I do. nt  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:26 PM   #66 
            Yeah, right... Well, my "do" is mightier than yours...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 02:30 PM   #82 
               Blah blah.. whatever... I know what I've done I don't know many who have done as much.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:37 PM   #99 
   I'll back Kucinich even if Obama doesn't cave.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-03-09 02:17 PM   #32 
   Unrec. Our man in 2012 is Obama. Period. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:18 PM   #34 
   He might be YOUR man but he won't be MINE if he screws us on healthcare.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:19 PM   #39 
   Thanks for the preview of the "divide and conquer" tactic that will no doubt come up in 2012. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:22 PM   #51 
      Doesn't have to be that way if Obama will actually stand up for Democratic principles on this issue.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:25 PM   #60 
         Last I heard, neither has Obama. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:25 PM   #65 
   That's the kind of blank check the hard-core Bush supporters gave their guy.  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:21 PM   #46 
      Yeah, a fractured Democratic Party in 2012. That's a winner! nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:23 PM   #57 
         All for the party. Party over everything.  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:25 PM   #62 
         Compared to what? President Palin? Because that's what a fractured party will deliver. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:26 PM   #68 
            How much did that crystal ball cost you?  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:29 PM   #78 
               You seemed stunned to find a loyal Democrat on DemocraticUnderground.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:32 PM   #86 
                  I'm always stunned by people who are loyal to a party at any cost.  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:35 PM   #94 
                     Over a Republican, any day. I'm not fooling myself that a primary challenge would benefit Dems.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:37 PM   #98 
                        Oh, I know. I just wanted to clarify that there is nothing he could do to lose your support.  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:38 PM   #100 
                           You seem to be confusing party with candidate.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:42 PM   #109 
                              No, not when the party has a sitting President.  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:45 PM   #114 
                                 There's a subtler distinction.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:54 PM   #122 
                                    I'll stick with principles over party or individual politicians.  dem629   Sep-03-09 03:02 PM   #135 
                                       Thanks. And I'll stick to ensuring we have a Democratic administration rather than GOP. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 03:07 PM   #139 
                                          If a "Democratic" administration is acting like a Republican administration  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 07:45 PM   #184 
                                             Amidst all the profanity, what is your real-world alternative?  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 08:43 PM   #195 
                                                In the REAL world (i.e. every industrialized country EXCEPT the United Corporations of AmeriKKKa)  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 09:14 PM   #206 
                                                   Why don't we stick to winning U.S. elections. Because that's where we are in the real world.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 09:19 PM   #207 
                                                   We won the last two elections (2006 & 2008)  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-03-09 09:30 PM   #208 
                                                   No argument with that! nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 09:34 PM   #210 
                                                   Dupe. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 10:37 PM   #212 
                                                   Dupe. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 10:38 PM   #213 
                                                   Dupe. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 10:38 PM   #214 
                                                   No argument with that! (on your "We won" post) nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 10:40 PM   #215 
         I think that's their intent. Fracture the party and the Repukes win. nt  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 02:26 PM   #67 
         Yep. It's a conspiracy!  dem629   Sep-03-09 02:27 PM   #72 
         I have no doubt the GOP will attempt to do this in the leadup to 2012. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:33 PM   #90 
         The party is already fractured. The damn DLC fractured it!  Individualist   Sep-03-09 02:32 PM   #87 
            No, I don't agree with that. There aren't huge Evan Bayh crowds out there. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:34 PM   #92 
   Neither, the US of the Corporations, by the Corps and for the Corps  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 02:18 PM   #35 
   why do you even bother to still participate in the process  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 02:21 PM   #44 
      Local politics where I can still make a difference, perhaps  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 02:25 PM   #61 
      In the bigger pic, I suspect many espousing the heterodox view already have one foot out the door  Echo In Light   Sep-03-09 02:35 PM   #95 
      there is no real point in participating in the process  datasuspect   Sep-03-09 06:42 PM   #173 
   Man, some people just don't get the concept of hypothetical. /nt  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 02:18 PM   #36 
   Cheerleaders feeling the inevitable bearing down? n/t  Echo In Light   Sep-03-09 02:21 PM   #45 
      I fear you may be right /nt  MindPilot   Sep-03-09 02:22 PM   #53 
   Wes Clark.  Kalyke   Sep-03-09 02:21 PM   #47 
   Dean has lied too much shilling for this "reform"  Oregone   Sep-03-09 02:25 PM   #63 
   The President doesn't have a vote in the Senate  DefenseLawyer   Sep-03-09 02:26 PM   #69 
   Actually NO - I'm a Democratic Precinct Committeeman in Orange County FL  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:31 PM   #84 
      Ohhhh! Now, that turned out well, now didn't it???  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 02:37 PM   #97 
      Actually it HAS but of course YOU wouldn't know the first thing about it.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:40 PM   #105 
         No, I can't, but I'm sure all of us OBAMA supporters will do our part...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 02:54 PM   #121 
            yeah right... I'm not so impressed with "the team"..  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:56 PM   #127 
               You might not be impressed, but thank goodness it's not all about you.  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 03:10 PM   #143 
      That's wonderful  DefenseLawyer   Sep-03-09 02:42 PM   #108 
      Actually YES - a number of them - I've put about 5000 dollars and 5000 hours into the party  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:49 PM   #116 
      and YES it is a PROTEST but NO it is NOT futile.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:52 PM   #119 
      Then, instead of tearing down a Democratic president, why don't you help?  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 02:49 PM   #117 
         Here's the point: Either the electeds do what you want or you vote them out!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:54 PM   #123 
            There's also something called: timing.  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 03:00 PM   #134 
            Yawn... time is NOT on our side and this is the classic excuse.. "be patient"  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 06:46 PM   #175 
               You're quite the expert at projections, aren't you, Doug D.?  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 08:48 PM   #200 
            Other than Bill Nelson, who's a high level member of The Family, a blue dog's blue dog  suzie   Sep-04-09 07:54 AM   #233 
   neither of them, nor anyone else will run in 2012 from teh dems at any rate  La Lioness Priyanka   Sep-03-09 02:28 PM   #75 
   I may just not vote for the first time  FreeState   Sep-04-09 01:53 AM   #228 
   Pathetic, truly pathetic n/t  Spazito   Sep-03-09 02:28 PM   #77 
   The enemy already thinks that Obama is a Far Left wing loony Libril now.  RC   Sep-03-09 02:29 PM   #79 
   OMG..talk about defeatist excuses...this is OUR country not the RW nut jobs.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:32 PM   #88 
   Teddy ran against Carter in 1980...it didn't work and it didn't help the party  Jennicut   Sep-03-09 02:32 PM   #89 
   President Obama in 2012  VAliberal   Sep-03-09 02:40 PM   #102 
   Most likely ex-President Obama in 2013 if he screws us on healthcare.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:41 PM   #107 
   Why is it so absolutely essential?  treestar   Sep-03-09 02:41 PM   #106 
   Because anything less will end up being a total sellout to the insurance thieves.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:43 PM   #110 
   Actually no... it'll save lives too... but hey, it's not good enough for you, I get it.  redqueen   Sep-03-09 02:45 PM   #113 
   No it won't and you can stop interjecting your fantasies any time you like.  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:56 PM   #129 
      I think this all YOUR fantasy. You want Obama out so you can have  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 03:12 PM   #144 
      I have subsidized insurance  sandnsea   Sep-03-09 07:31 PM   #182 
   But we've done without it so far, so how would we be any worse off?  treestar   Sep-03-09 03:23 PM   #148 
   The public option is the compromise  WeDidIt   Sep-03-09 02:45 PM   #115 
      Thank you YES! If I REALLY got what I wanted it would be HR676!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:57 PM   #130 
      Who wants to kill it? Nothing has happened to change anything.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 03:06 PM   #138 
   kucinich? a loss in a landslide that would make reagans landslide look neck in neck.  dionysus   Sep-03-09 02:53 PM   #120 
   When's the last time a same-party challenger has won the nomination  Common Sense Party   Sep-03-09 02:55 PM   #125 
   Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated....no thanks!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:58 PM   #131 
   Ha ha very cute. But has it EVER happened?  Common Sense Party   Sep-03-09 03:44 PM   #151 
   Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated....no thanks!  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 02:58 PM   #132 
   LOL! Oh Noes!  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-03-09 03:09 PM   #141 
   Yes, Franklin Pierce, who is a contender with Buchanan and Harding for worst president ever  Marsala   Sep-04-09 01:57 AM   #230 
      Thank you for the answer! I didn't know if it had ever happened.  Common Sense Party   Sep-04-09 11:54 AM   #236 
   Obama  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 02:55 PM   #126 
   Poll: If Aliens invade Earth, who will lead the resistance?  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-03-09 03:02 PM   #136 
   That's easy -- Torchwood -- oh wait... maybe not . nt :)  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 03:04 PM   #137 
   Sookie Stackhouse and Eric Northman to the rescue!  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 03:07 PM   #140 
   Obama  NeedleCast   Sep-03-09 03:09 PM   #142 
   Obama. Dean and kucinich have both run and lost. No thanks..  Kahuna   Sep-03-09 03:19 PM   #146 
   You will get Romney as President if Obama continues to CAVE in on Health Care.  Kansas Wyatt   Sep-03-09 07:00 PM   #178 
      Then you will get what YOU deserve. I know what choice to make. nt  Kahuna   Sep-04-09 07:13 AM   #231 
         It has nothing to do with 'me getting what I deserve'  Kansas Wyatt   Sep-04-09 12:03 PM   #237 
   Idea! How about a woman on the list? Since we have never had a woman in oval office  Captain_Nemo   Sep-03-09 03:23 PM   #149 
   You left out HRC  pscot   Sep-03-09 03:26 PM   #150 
   Don't consider her a liberal so I left her out. nt  ddeclue   Sep-03-09 03:47 PM   #152 
      Our party doesn't nominate liberals for President any more. Only moderates  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 07:46 PM   #185 
   I'm 100% sure Obama will be re-elected  Generator   Sep-03-09 03:56 PM   #153 
   Dean will not challenge Obama, and if DK does he will come in third in Ohio again.  WI_DEM   Sep-03-09 03:58 PM   #154 
   I think Kucinich is quite capable of coming in a distant second in Ohio  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-03-09 07:51 PM   #186 
   What some of you people don't seem to grasp is that Obama is going to get more on health care that  WI_DEM   Sep-03-09 03:59 PM   #155 
   I'm Voting for Kucinich Regardless.  Toasterlad   Sep-03-09 04:27 PM   #158 
   Well, even if he doesn't cave, I'm already looking for a primary option.....  joeybee12   Sep-03-09 04:29 PM   #159 
   Eh... the GOP will have Congress in 2012.. hardly matters... nt  Blasphemer   Sep-03-09 05:32 PM   #163 
   In that case, either of them would be preferable to me.  Vidar   Sep-03-09 05:44 PM   #164 
   Gore with Kucinich or RFK Jr as VP. nt  earth mom   Sep-03-09 06:20 PM   #167 
   They are both great! Include an "undecided" option n/t  Becky72   Sep-03-09 06:21 PM   #168 
   Hey mom, lookit me!!! I'm postin' in a thread! w00t!!!  flvegan   Sep-03-09 06:23 PM   #169 
   ...  tjwash   Sep-03-09 06:33 PM   #172 
   Do You Know How Hard It Is To Mount A Serious Primary Challenge To An Incumbent President  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-03-09 06:26 PM   #170 
   I want OBAMA  Raine   Sep-03-09 06:29 PM   #171 
   Apparently we are in the minority here.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 08:44 PM   # 
   I'd prefer Kuccinich, but Dean would certainly be better than Obama - less of a centrist  EndElectoral   Sep-03-09 06:47 PM   #176 
   Which means he'd be unlikely to be elected by the general public.  Common Sense Party   Sep-03-09 08:33 PM   #193 
   lololol!  BlooInBloo   Sep-03-09 08:24 PM   #189 
   It's kinda magical.  WilliamPitt   Sep-03-09 08:46 PM   #198 
   Neither, my choice is current Secretary of State  Thothmes   Sep-03-09 08:28 PM   #191 
   You can smell the fear here. n/t  Greyhound   Sep-03-09 08:28 PM   #192 
   What you smell is racism, pure and simple.  suzie   Sep-04-09 08:49 AM   #234 
      LOL!  Greyhound   Sep-04-09 11:25 AM   #235 
         I wasn't around DU for the early part of the primary season.  suzie   Sep-04-09 12:06 PM   #238 
            We all lost a very long time ago.  Greyhound   Sep-04-09 03:57 PM   #239 
               Then why are you here taking up space and whining about Obama everyday?  suzie   Sep-05-09 10:50 AM   #243 
   where's neither  TheWebHead   Sep-03-09 08:41 PM   #194 
   (facepalm)  WilliamPitt   Sep-03-09 08:44 PM   #196 
   It's been like this all day. DU doesn't support the Democratic President.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 08:45 PM   #197 
   DU is not America.  WilliamPitt   Sep-03-09 08:47 PM   #199 
      And it may not be a place for Democrats who actually like the President, either.  DevonRex   Sep-03-09 08:48 PM   #201 
         Hello! nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 08:51 PM   #204 
   Lol -- you rock, Will! nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-09 08:49 PM   #202 
   Do these people think we'll ever forget these posts?  HughMoran   Sep-04-09 12:23 AM   #225 
   Obama wins two terms.  saltpoint   Sep-03-09 10:04 PM   #211 
   I back the President  krawhitham   Sep-03-09 10:49 PM   #216 
   None of the above. We have a good president and whatever happens happens for the best.  wisteria   Sep-03-09 11:21 PM   #219 
   Pfft. They won't even dump REID, let alone Obama.  donco6   Sep-03-09 11:22 PM   #220 
   I leave all the 'what ifs' to Chris Matthews ~  bridgit   Sep-04-09 01:56 AM   #229 
   I am hoping that he doesn't cave.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-04-09 04:02 PM   #241 
 

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