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37. It's not about "allowing" or "disallowing" someone on the air...
it's about holding them accountable for unacceptable slurs. What was Imus'point in the comment he made? That the Rutgers team was tough (I'm not really sure) ? Couldn't he have said "Wow!Those girls are one tough team!" Instead he chose a racial slur to make his point and THAT is what was so unacceptable. If he had called them a "tough team" how many people would happily today never know who Don Imus was?

I'm not "out to get" any broadcaster (although, I gotta' admit seeing Limbaugh get the ax would give me a fuzzy warm feeling). There are ways to make your point without being insulting and offensive. If you disagree with me, tell me why. Don't just call me names.

And incidentally, Limbaugh and Beck seem to be the most singled out on this forum but we all know (whether we want to admit it or not)it's not just the conservatives, there are plenty of left leaning radio and talk hosts that walk some pretty thin ice too.
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  -Which Conservatives should we allow on the air? bryant69  Apr-13-07 08:34 AM   #0 
  - The ones who comport themselves like responsible citizens.  ClassWarrior   Apr-13-07 08:36 AM   #1 
  - Who gets to make that determination?  atreides1   Apr-13-07 08:44 AM   #17 
     - Why do you ask? Is it really so hard for you to figure out...  ClassWarrior   Apr-13-07 08:52 AM   # 
     - Um, no offense but I don't want you or any one person  shadowknows69   Apr-13-07 09:54 AM   #58 
        - Society is a "mob," and standards and mores are a "witch hunt?"...  ClassWarrior   Apr-13-07 10:04 AM   #60 
        - Why should it be frightening?  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 10:27 AM   #70 
        - Considering how you have twisted my words, it's no wonder...  ClassWarrior   Apr-13-07 10:35 AM   #75 
        - Who's twisting words?  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 10:42 AM   #79 
        - Imus did all this?  shadowknows69   Apr-13-07 11:24 AM   #89 
           - I'm sorry to hear you might have a spot on your lung,  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 11:39 AM   #95 
        - I totally agree.  Frogger   Apr-15-07 10:20 AM   #128 
        - Do you think it is mob mentality to punish a child for wrong doing?  Toots   Apr-15-07 10:29 AM   #129 
     - Right now, it seems to be Al Sharpton. n/t  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 11:12 AM   #87 
     - I think blatantly racist/misogynistic remarks make the determination  ProgressiveAmPatriot   Apr-13-07 11:42 AM   #96 
        - He feasibly could, if only all his advertisers didn't want  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 12:00 PM   #101 
  - They're all liars  MessiahRp   Apr-13-07 08:36 AM   #2 
  - The problem is,  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 10:32 AM   #74 
  - Ed Shultz. That's it.  Deep13   Apr-13-07 08:37 AM   #3 
  - ..  Blue State Native   Apr-13-07 08:37 AM   #5 
  - The ones who don't use public airways for hate speech. duh n/t  terip64   Apr-13-07 08:37 AM   #4 
  - Isn't espousing conservatism by definition hate speech?  bryant69   Apr-13-07 08:38 AM   #7 
     - I have some 'conservative' acquaintences who don't use hate speech,  terip64   Apr-13-07 08:42 AM   #14 
     - Because they don't use it around you  atreides1   Apr-13-07 08:46 AM   #19 
     - You're right. They probably don't use it at work or in mixed company.  terip64   Apr-13-07 08:57 AM   #32 
     - If they're not advocating torture and genocide,  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 10:46 AM   #81 
     - Um, no  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 08:48 AM   #21 
     - Free speech for those who use it truthfully and honestly  bryant69   Apr-13-07 08:49 AM   #23 
        - "Lies, distortions, and deceptions"  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 08:53 AM   #29 
        - who said anything about absolute truth?  unpossibles   Apr-13-07 09:00 AM   #35 
           - An example of "shades of gray:"  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 09:08 AM   #39 
           - I think you are over-simplifying the stem cell situation too, honestly  unpossibles   Apr-13-07 09:43 AM   #56 
           - You've posted some things that I didn't know. Thank you.  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 09:52 AM   #57 
              - it's all good and honestly I prefer communication with anyone  unpossibles   Apr-13-07 10:15 AM   #65 
           - No grey areas,  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 11:28 AM   #90 
           - Censorship, this is a word often misunderstood...  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 11:10 AM   #86 
        - *ding*ding*ding*  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 10:57 AM   #82 
     - The "c" word is offensive,  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 10:37 AM   #77 
     - self-delete dupe n/t  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 10:38 AM   #78 
  - They're all allowed on the air, Imus included.  mainegreen   Apr-13-07 08:38 AM   #6 
  - We got him fired; we are now going to get Beck and Limbaugh fired  bryant69   Apr-13-07 08:39 AM   #9 
     - The goal isn't to get someone fired. The goal is to hold...  ClassWarrior   Apr-13-07 08:42 AM   #15 
     - Exactly. Reasonable and responsible broadcasters have nothing to fear  bryant69   Apr-13-07 08:51 AM   #26 
     - If Ben Stein or William Buckley Jr. had radio shows, I wouldn't want them off the public airwaves  cryingshame   Apr-13-07 11:37 AM   #92 
     - Wow, that's the pantheon of American fascism...  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 12:30 PM   #104 
     - Well, yeah. n/t.  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 12:14 PM   #102 
     - To hold responsible and accountable by government  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 12:46 PM   #105 
     - Big difference  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 08:46 AM   #18 
     - Because there's a chance he'll be back.  mainegreen   Apr-13-07 08:52 AM   #28 
     - It's not the government banning them for now,  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 11:52 AM   #100 
  - Maybe George Will  davhill   Apr-13-07 08:39 AM   #8 
  - Well, at least he knows who Vercingetorix was  Nikki Stone1   Apr-13-07 09:22 AM   #47 
     - As a political commentator, Will makes one hell of a  MN ChimpH8R   Apr-13-07 09:14 PM   #122 
  - Make a list of the ones that aren't liars, bigots or hypocrites for our  Sentinel Chicken   Apr-13-07 08:39 AM   #10 
  - THat's why I started this post  bryant69   Apr-13-07 09:10 AM   #40 
  - I'd say Lou Dobbs maybe  Truth Hurts A Lot   Apr-13-07 08:39 AM   #11 
  - "the power to get rid of voices we don't like"  QuestionAll   Apr-13-07 08:40 AM   #12 
  - The bill of rights only protects from Government intrustion on free speech  bryant69   Apr-13-07 08:43 AM   #16 
  - What a wonderful world that would be!  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 08:50 AM   #25 
  - fighting intolerance with intolerance...  QuestionAll   Apr-13-07 08:54 AM   #30 
  - That's right  joe_sixpack   Apr-13-07 09:20 AM   #45 
  - Exactly - so long as the Government doesn't do it  bryant69   Apr-13-07 09:20 AM   #46 
  - It's only Constitutional  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 01:21 PM   #107 
  - "Power to the People",  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 01:30 PM   #109 
  - You have it backwards...  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 01:08 PM   #106 
  - Great! When they stop marginalizing liberals I'll start fighting ...  Sentinel Chicken   Apr-13-07 08:46 AM   #20 
  - Bill of rights doesn't apply here  Touchdown   Apr-13-07 08:50 AM   #24 
     - what you REALLY need...  QuestionAll   Apr-13-07 08:59 AM   #33 
     - Great suggestion,  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 09:01 AM   #36 
     - I do. And I use them.  Touchdown   Apr-13-07 10:25 AM   #69 
        - and you apparently missed the point of civics.  QuestionAll   Apr-13-07 11:03 AM   #84 
           - No, I didn't, but you apparently did.  Touchdown   Apr-13-07 11:31 AM   #91 
              - if they pay for the time they have a right to use it as they see fit within the law...  QuestionAll   Apr-13-07 02:30 PM   #116 
                 - We're not talking about paying for time  Touchdown   Apr-13-07 02:51 PM   #117 
                    - imus had a job- he didn't own the microphone, or pay for the airtime.  QuestionAll   Apr-13-07 04:21 PM   #118 
                       - Then our conversation should've been a short one.  Touchdown   Apr-13-07 04:31 PM   #119 
                          - the main thing is- the opposing voice has as much right to the airwaves as our side.  QuestionAll   Apr-13-07 04:33 PM   #120 
                             - Of course they do.  Touchdown   Apr-14-07 04:45 PM   #123 
                                - i'd certainly agree. i'd also agree that bill clinton bears a big part of the responsibility.  QuestionAll   Apr-14-07 05:07 PM   #124 
     - Every issue has shades of gray  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 08:59 AM   #34 
  - The reinstatement of the fairness doctrine would do the trick  BOSSHOG   Apr-13-07 08:41 AM   #13 
  - I agree. Let them all on - along with an opposing point of view. ( n/t )  Make7   Apr-13-07 09:27 AM   #49 
  - I liked William F Buckley..Pompous and funny (emphasis on pompous).  formerrepuke   Apr-13-07 08:48 AM   #22 
  - exactly! not all conservatives are offensive, insulting filth-slingers.  cryingshame   Apr-13-07 11:38 AM   #93 
  - the ones who are not lying racist sexist America-hating scumbags  unpossibles   Apr-13-07 08:52 AM   #27 
  - It's Not The Politics, It's The Verbage  KharmaTrain   Apr-13-07 08:55 AM   #31 
  - It's not about "allowing" or "disallowing" someone on the air...  youthere   Apr-13-07 09:02 AM   #37 
  - Ummm....anyone of them who want to be on the air?  Sammy Pepys   Apr-13-07 09:04 AM   #38 
  - We've tried letting them take their views public  bryant69   Apr-13-07 09:12 AM   #41 
  - So you want to ban people from the airwaves because of their political views?  Sammy Pepys   Apr-13-07 09:16 AM   #42 
     - Is that the best response you have?  bryant69   Apr-13-07 09:19 AM   #44 
        - Again, I have to ask  Sadie4629   Apr-13-07 09:25 AM   #48 
        - If you assert, as Limbaugh and Coulter have, that we found WMDs  bryant69   Apr-13-07 10:05 AM   #61 
           - You are twisting the issue and I think you are doing it on purpose. The issue isn't their positions  cryingshame   Apr-13-07 11:39 AM   #94 
        - Can I get some assurance that you're serious?  Sammy Pepys   Apr-13-07 09:42 AM   #55 
           - You'll only bury good faith arguments?  bryant69   Apr-13-07 10:05 AM   #62 
              - No, I don't waste my time with bad faith ones....  Sammy Pepys   Apr-13-07 10:16 AM   #67 
                 - THe other point you neglect to put in  bryant69   Apr-13-07 10:27 AM   #71 
                    - Well, when you go fishing...  Sammy Pepys   Apr-13-07 10:43 AM   #80 
                       - it's not entirely  bryant69   Apr-13-07 11:02 AM   #83 
                          - How so?  Sammy Pepys   Apr-13-07 11:10 AM   #85 
                             - Ulterior motives?  bryant69   Apr-13-07 01:39 PM   #110 
                                - I'm not chargng you with having them...  Sammy Pepys   Apr-13-07 02:07 PM   #115 
  - Last week it was "nappy-headed hos",  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 01:45 PM   #111 
  - The market rules  gollygee   Apr-13-07 09:17 AM   #43 
  - Yes  sleebarker   Apr-13-07 09:29 AM   #51 
  - That brings to mind  joe_sixpack   Apr-13-07 09:31 AM   #52 
     - That's exactly what it was  gollygee   Apr-13-07 09:32 AM   #53 
     - Exactly!!  GTRMAN   Apr-13-07 09:58 AM   #59 
     - Yep  sleebarker   Apr-13-07 10:08 AM   #64 
        - Sadly, depending on the way you look at it, it does...  joe_sixpack   Apr-13-07 01:50 PM   #113 
  - Who decides what I listen to?  dogday   Apr-13-07 09:28 AM   #50 
  - You can get rid of ALL of them by noon today.  greendog   Apr-13-07 09:33 AM   #54 
  - Hmmmm. Battlestar Galactaca?  bryant69   Apr-13-07 10:06 AM   #63 
     - Well, I suppose I could buy a TV to watch the Simpsons...  greendog   Apr-13-07 10:35 AM   #76 
  - I could always listen to william buckley.  NCevilDUer   Apr-13-07 10:16 AM   #66 
  - I thought this was a poll at first...  Casper Alabaster   Apr-13-07 10:19 AM   #68 
  - A man after my own heart.  bryant69   Apr-13-07 10:29 AM   #73 
  - "...they can't be on the air in a free society."  QuestionAll   Apr-13-07 08:53 PM   #121 
  - All of them  WilliamPitt   Apr-13-07 10:27 AM   #72 
  - The question isn't what conservatives are allowed on the air  mmonk   Apr-13-07 11:15 AM   #88 
  - IIRC, the Capitalist owners get to decide whom to hire and fire.  WinkyDink   Apr-13-07 11:42 AM   #97 
  - I'm glad I have satellite radio!  Zywiec   Apr-13-07 11:42 AM   #98 
  - Hannity and O'Reilly are in the clear.  hnmnf   Apr-13-07 11:48 AM   #99 
  - Conservatives are people who love America.  baldguy   Apr-13-07 12:20 PM   #103 
  - Andrew Sullivan  terrya   Apr-13-07 01:24 PM   #108 
  - Agreed.  bliss_eternal   Apr-14-07 05:59 PM   #127 
  - Where was I when you guys were passing out  StinkyMcPinknose   Apr-13-07 01:47 PM   #112 
  - at the very least, some degree of factual accuracy should be required--but we can be more generous  yurbud   Apr-13-07 01:52 PM   #114 
  - How about people who repeatedly lie and use hate speech?  depakid   Apr-14-07 05:13 PM   #125 
  - The ones that don't need to stand on minority shoulders...  bliss_eternal   Apr-14-07 05:55 PM   #126 

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