Hannah Bell
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Thu Sep-03-09 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #56 |
| 70. a cut in contracted salary = a CUT. |
| -Obama cuts pay for federal workers |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 12:36 AM |
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How much are we paying those Mercenaries in Afghanistan again? nt |
Mari333 |
Sep-03-09 12:40 AM |
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Kick and rec. |
abumbyanyothername |
Sep-03-09 12:42 AM |
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That's not a pay cut. It's a smaller raise. So obviously, we aren't serious yet. |
imdjh |
Sep-03-09 12:43 AM |
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it's a cut in their contracted cola, which per the regs is supposed to be 2.4%. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 01:04 AM |
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I'm with him no raise is not a pay cut. |
TxRider |
Sep-04-09 03:33 PM |
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By the same logic, inflation and deflation are also dishonest phenomenon. |
Trillo |
Sep-04-09 07:37 PM |
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this won't actually happen |
DaveinMD |
Sep-03-09 12:46 AM |
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This is the kind of stuff that gets us and labor branded ugly names. |
imdjh |
Sep-03-09 12:47 AM |
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Says who? |
abumbyanyothername |
Sep-03-09 12:56 AM |
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Can you sing that like a chipmunk? |
imdjh |
Sep-03-09 01:01 AM |
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I agree. |
ParkieDem |
Sep-03-09 01:43 PM |
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I think you are mis-reading the comparability formula |
hfojvt |
Sep-03-09 05:50 PM |
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Poor friggin' babies, only getting a 2% pay raise.............. |
Double T |
Sep-03-09 12:49 AM |
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I also have a somewhat decent health insurance plan too. |
Butch350 |
Sep-03-09 12:54 AM |
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Sure. You probably have fully paid 'congressional grade' health care. |
Double T |
Sep-03-09 01:02 AM |
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In the real world a 2 percent raise isn't a cut. nt |
subcomhd |
Sep-03-09 01:42 AM |
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Right. Many throughout this country are taking actual pay cuts and are required........ |
Double T |
Sep-03-09 02:02 AM |
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the banksters got raises & bonuses, but rank & file gov't employees don't get their |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 12:41 PM |
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It's all a matter of priorities.... |
blindpig |
Sep-04-09 10:18 AM |
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You do not know what you are talking about. |
GentryDixon |
Sep-03-09 05:38 PM |
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When Inflation is 3% |
AllentownJake |
Sep-03-09 07:49 AM |
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Then what would a 2% cut from current pay be? |
TxRider |
Sep-04-09 03:35 PM |
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in the real world inflation has averaged 2.9% per year since 1990. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 06:09 PM |
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fuck you man |
pimpbot |
Sep-03-09 03:53 PM |
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The government doesn't have the money to give anyone a raise. |
Double T |
Sep-04-09 04:12 PM |
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can you not bash feds? |
CreekDog |
Sep-03-09 04:00 PM |
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Your attitude sucks and reminds me of how much freepers hate Unions and anyone |
earth mom |
Sep-03-09 05:09 PM |
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In the REAL WORLD when revenues are down, no one gets a raise........ |
Double T |
Sep-04-09 04:18 PM |
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If the government really wants to "save" money they would get us out of the Middle East. |
earth mom |
Sep-05-09 12:05 AM |
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It's not a cut according to the article...it's a smaller increase in pay.. |
firedupdem |
Sep-03-09 12:53 AM |
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It's a cut in their contracted reguatory lincrease. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 01:51 AM |
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In other words, you are a manipulative liar. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-09 03:17 PM |
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i'm not lying, or manipulating, but you're violating DU rules pretty blatantly. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 04:24 PM |
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Maybe my literal-mindedness is showing, but It's a cut in the RAISE, not the WAGE. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-09 06:55 PM |
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It's a cut in the wage levels contracted for 2010, which contractually were supposed to be 2.4% |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 01:53 AM |
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Which is still not a pay cut. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-04-09 08:08 AM |
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it is a cut in their contracted pay. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 03:22 PM |
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It's a cut in the usual wage increase. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-04-09 07:55 PM |
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A 2% pay raise is NOT a pay cut |
taught_me_patience |
Sep-03-09 12:54 AM |
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it is, because minimum 2.4% increase is the current regulation. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 01:03 AM |
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Inflation is 0 because of the recession. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-09 08:45 AM |
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Keep dreaming... this one's a one-trick-pony. |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 09:11 AM |
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you know what the rate of inflation for all of 2009-10 will be already, nostradamus? |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 12:18 PM |
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If economists are worried about DEFLATION then inflation really isn't an issue. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-09 03:20 PM |
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i repeat: you don't know what the next year will bring. neither do "economists," |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 04:22 PM |
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Why are they getting ANY cost of living raise when social |
shraby |
Sep-03-09 12:55 AM |
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+1 nt |
SammyWinstonJack |
Sep-03-09 05:55 PM |
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ding! - don't wanna see congress giving themselves a raise @ 3am... |
bridgit |
Sep-05-09 12:12 AM |
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Great. Obama wants to follow the lead of teh Arnold?? |
Onceuponalife |
Sep-03-09 01:40 AM |
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LOL! I love it! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Sep-03-09 05:57 PM |
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Geezes....I'm crying for Federal Workers with health Care and paid vacation |
FrenchieCat |
Sep-03-09 03:02 AM |
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Me too. |
Kahuna |
Sep-03-09 07:34 AM |
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Still defending him no matter what I see |
AllentownJake |
Sep-03-09 07:47 AM |
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No matter what, is right. I don't get that, at all. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Sep-03-09 06:00 PM |
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There are numerous comments (the majority) here similar to mine, |
FrenchieCat |
Sep-04-09 01:26 AM |
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A smaller raise than usual is NOT a pay cut. Especially when there is no inflation. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-09 08:43 AM |
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Wow! Another train unrec as a result of Hannah Bull posting lies from WSWS! |
HamdenRice |
Sep-03-09 08:56 AM |
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Says one of the original THANK GAWD IT PASSED Bankster cheerleaders. |
earth mom |
Sep-03-09 05:14 PM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Sep-03-09 06:01 PM |
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Pretty amazing thread |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Sep-03-09 09:07 AM |
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Rofl! |
HamdenRice |
Sep-03-09 10:49 AM |
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A two 2% increase is not a pay cut. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-09 03:15 PM |
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Hell we said THE SAME THING when bush was in office |
The Straight Story |
Sep-03-09 06:02 PM |
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It easy to defend Obama when he is *HELPING* Federal workers |
yodoobo |
Sep-03-09 03:39 PM |
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he's not "giving" them anything. They *already* were scheduled for their mandated 2.4% raise. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 04:28 PM |
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A raise in salary is a raise in salary. |
yodoobo |
Sep-03-09 05:32 PM |
#56 |
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a cut in contracted salary = a CUT. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 06:06 PM |
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Would be wondeful if we could all get cut like that |
yodoobo |
Sep-03-09 07:35 PM |
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Presidents do this very often, and as we can |
DavidDvorkin |
Sep-03-09 12:45 PM |
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FEPCA mandated pay raises have been ignored for almost 20 years |
CreekDog |
Sep-03-09 03:20 PM |
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I goes back even further than that |
DavidDvorkin |
Sep-03-09 03:31 PM |
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"It goes" that should be. |
DavidDvorkin |
Sep-03-09 05:19 PM |
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They should thank Obama for a 2% **RAISE** |
yodoobo |
Sep-03-09 03:34 PM |
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Not only did I not get a raise this year, I got a %5 pay cut. |
crazyjoe |
Sep-03-09 03:35 PM |
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really? a 2% increase instead of a 2.4% increase will mean a "significant cut in real income"? |
cali |
Sep-03-09 03:43 PM |
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Like I said, it's emotionally manipulative lies on the part of the OP and the WSWS. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-09 04:48 PM |
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Well, when it comes to idiotic anti-Obama propaganda, why let the right have all the fun? |
redqueen |
Sep-03-09 04:53 PM |
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nice spin. but in fact, the "why should those federal workers/union workers get any cola when *I* |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 06:25 PM |
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It's not bullshit, it's a fact. It's tradition, and it works every time... sadly. |
redqueen |
Sep-04-09 09:51 AM |
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it's a cut of $40 of expected income per every $10K of current income. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 04:58 PM |
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Its a raise of $200 for every $10k of income. |
yodoobo |
Sep-03-09 05:34 PM |
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not with inflation running 1.99% so far in 2009 & who knows what in 2010. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 06:05 PM |
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Inflation hits everyone. including the vast majority |
yodoobo |
Sep-03-09 07:32 PM |
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so? the banksters are doing much better by far, let them take cuts. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 01:57 AM |
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by all means! lets cut the bankers pay. |
yodoobo |
Sep-04-09 07:31 AM |
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noted: the use of the denigrative "cry-baby" to describe workers who stick up for |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 03:21 PM |
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noted: the unappreciation of what is being provided. |
yodoobo |
Sep-04-09 03:45 PM |
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oooh, the workers are "unappreciative". you'll note the banksters got their contracted |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-05-09 12:08 AM |
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yes they are unappreciative |
yodoobo |
Sep-05-09 01:07 AM |
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So in other words, 4% annual inflation |
high density |
Sep-03-09 06:04 PM |
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oh for pity and reason's sake. this is too ridiculous. |
cali |
Sep-03-09 06:11 PM |
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CPI was 220 in Aug 2008, it bottomed out in Jan 2009. Rationally, fed. workers should take pay cuts |
Scarsdale Vibe |
Sep-03-09 06:13 PM |
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cpi is up 3.33 percent since 2007. why should workers take cuts? |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 06:30 PM |
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Ya' Know, This Is Absolutely Wrong, But I Must Admit... |
Toasterlad |
Sep-03-09 05:09 PM |
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It sure is interesting... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-03-09 05:21 PM |
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What would have mccain done? |
yodoobo |
Sep-03-09 05:38 PM |
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yeah, & if *stalin* were president, we'd all be in work camps, so by that measure, we're in gravy. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 06:31 PM |
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Stalin by virtue of being dead, had a slim chance of winning. |
yodoobo |
Sep-03-09 07:34 PM |
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"generous"? 2%? lol. some of the banksters got 200%. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 01:57 AM |
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yes generous. its 100000000% more than most people get |
yodoobo |
Sep-04-09 07:30 AM |
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can't do math, either, i see. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 03:25 PM |
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Coming from someone who mixes up raises and cuts. |
yodoobo |
Sep-04-09 03:53 PM |
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a cut in contracted pay is a cut, no matter how much you spin. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-05-09 12:05 AM |
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calling a raise a cut is spin that Rove would be proud of |
yodoobo |
Sep-05-09 01:08 AM |
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How...Reaganesque. Will the cuts and "compartability" include the military? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-03-09 05:41 PM |
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"With inflation?" |
high density |
Sep-03-09 06:03 PM |
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yes. see above. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 06:32 PM |
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Cut the fucking Pentagon budget! |
alarimer |
Sep-03-09 06:11 PM |
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oh yeah, unrecommended with the greatest of pleasure, dear. |
cali |
Sep-03-09 06:12 PM |
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oh, *dear,* i wouldn't expect anything else from you. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-03-09 06:34 PM |
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feel free. and you're in a very select group of people who post |
cali |
Sep-03-09 06:46 PM |
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lol. from you, high praise indeed. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 12:29 AM |
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Gosh, you seem to be fixated in posting shit from wsws.... |
Spazito |
Sep-03-09 07:18 PM |
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only for the benefit of my secret admirer here. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 12:30 AM |
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I'll take a minor raise cut over the 20% wage cut I have now. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Sep-03-09 07:26 PM |
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Workers of the world unite.... .well if it is to complain |
whistler162 |
Sep-03-09 07:37 PM |
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Poor folk have it worse than that.... We don't get any COLA AT ALL FOR TWO YEARS! |
bobbolink |
Sep-03-09 07:37 PM |
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Everybody's getting a paycut |
Liberal_in_LA |
Sep-03-09 08:07 PM |
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...except the banksters, the military, the military contractors, & big capital. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 12:31 AM |
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I wonder how many people here who are complaining about the miniscule pay "raise" |
Onceuponalife |
Sep-04-09 12:45 AM |
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Thank you! It's quite surprising how few "Democrats" understand the basic |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-04-09 01:59 AM |
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The elderly get NO pay increase for 3 YEARS! |
lbrtbell |
Sep-04-09 01:24 AM |
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If I can't have mine, nobody else should either! |
Bill McBlueState |
Sep-04-09 03:32 PM |
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They are still getting a raise. (nt) |
redqueen |
Sep-04-09 03:34 PM |
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Get me some tequila and triple sec... |
blindpig |
Sep-04-09 04:35 PM |
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"Obama copied, virtually verbatim, an order issued in the name of George W. " |
maryf |
Sep-04-09 07:06 PM |
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I recall President Obama saying that teacher performance should be measured by kids' grades... |
Deja Q |
Sep-05-09 12:25 PM |
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Unlike Bush, Obama is a smart man. |
maryf |
Sep-06-09 11:58 AM |
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That's not a pay cut. |
scrinmaster |
Sep-04-09 10:22 PM |
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And yet... People wonder why there are no regulators or food inspectors or CDC or Justice... etc |
Hugin |
Sep-04-09 10:44 PM |
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Definitions of "pay" lead directly to deceptions. |
Trillo |
Sep-05-09 12:20 PM |
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I agree with both sides; with some terminology it's a cut. With other terminology, it's not. |
Deja Q |
Sep-05-09 12:27 PM |
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Some guy on TV says the average public worker gets paid more than the average private worker. |
dkf |
Sep-05-09 12:56 PM |
#132 |
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