Reply #164: I think that's a simplistic way to look at it.

[redqueen]

There is no pre-decision... the OP is a question.

Whatever one's views, there is progress, and then there is lack of progress. We get to have a choice, which is more than a lot of people in this world get. Yes, it's very sad that we don't live in a country as progressive as some others, but what good does all the posturing and drama do? IMO it's embarrassing... at least we have a chance here. Some would say that chance is illusory... but if so I'd wonder why they waste their time here, if they truly believe it's all a set up and a game.