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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 03:29 PM
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72. Even suburbanites in Santa Barbara can tell you where to bring your horses: Earl Warren Show Grounds
I don't know where folks go if they live in Santa Ynez Valley, but I'm sure every schoolchild who lives there knows.

I hope those 5 fools survive intact -- and I hope they learn their lesson. Firefighters will do everything humanly possible to save lives and property, but they can and do die themselves and it's wrong to ask them to do so stupidly.

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  -5 People Who Refused To Evacuate Won't Be Rescued SoCalDem  Aug-31-09 06:12 PM   #0 
  - Sucks, but are you going to risk other lives if people are stubbron? n/t  joeybee12   Aug-31-09 06:14 PM   #1 
  - people always think someone will come back for them.  SoCalDem   Aug-31-09 06:16 PM   #8 
     - See below...apparently the fire changed course, which is good news for them. n/t  joeybee12   Aug-31-09 06:31 PM   #21 
     - Similar to mountain climbers who ignore warning  question everything   Sep-01-09 02:56 PM   #63 
        - and snowboarders/skiiers who insist on going off-trail  SoCalDem   Sep-01-09 02:58 PM   #64 
  - And they shouldn't be.  virgogal   Aug-31-09 06:15 PM   #2 
  - I guess the Sheriff has to weigh his options  madokie   Aug-31-09 06:15 PM   #3 
  - Burning sounds like a horrific way to die.  babylonsister   Aug-31-09 06:15 PM   #4 
  - Most don't burn but die of smoke inhalation. Choices/Consequences. n/t  elocs   Aug-31-09 06:25 PM   #16 
  - It's only horriffic if you survive  Warpy   Aug-31-09 06:27 PM   #17 
     - Good point. I always think of the folks  babylonsister   Aug-31-09 06:29 PM   #18 
  - Sometimes you wait to late and help can't come - that seems to be the case here  stray cat   Aug-31-09 06:15 PM   #5 
  - That's a tough call to make.  tekisui   Aug-31-09 06:15 PM   #6 
  - it is hard indeed  Skittles   Aug-31-09 06:31 PM   #20 
  - Sucks to be them  XemaSab   Aug-31-09 06:15 PM   #7 
  - I feel sorry for them, but they should have evacuated.  Creena   Aug-31-09 06:16 PM   #9 
  - especially if there is little to no hope a potential rescuer will survive.  stray cat   Aug-31-09 06:17 PM   #11 
  - Now watch them try to sue the Sheriff's Dept.  kestrel91316   Aug-31-09 06:16 PM   #10 
  - I don't think that would "wash".. if they even survive  SoCalDem   Aug-31-09 06:17 PM   #12 
     - They will try, if they survive (and if they don't their next of kin will) -  kestrel91316   Aug-31-09 06:18 PM   #14 
        - If we could some how air drop masses of these attorneys on the fires  semillama   Sep-01-09 03:49 PM   #75 
  - Now here's where personal responsibility should play a role. These  valerief   Aug-31-09 06:18 PM   #13 
  - According to a caller to the Ron Reagan show  lapfog_1   Aug-31-09 06:23 PM   #15 
  - That's good news....and I hope this serves as a lesson for others! n/t  joeybee12   Aug-31-09 06:30 PM   #19 
  - sadly, probably more will think they too could "make it"..  SoCalDem   Aug-31-09 07:16 PM   #23 
  - Excellent -good for them- its got to be scary to know you are beyond help  stray cat   Aug-31-09 07:31 PM   #25 
  - "Teh Stupid- It Burns"...  NYC_SKP   Aug-31-09 06:33 PM   #22 
  - That's sad, but it happens all the time. People won't leave their homes until the danger is there  aikoaiko   Aug-31-09 07:23 PM   #24 
  - I don't know what has changed over the years, I don't know why  merh   Aug-31-09 07:34 PM   #26 
  - Some people think they can 'ride it out', because the media always  SoCalDem   Sep-01-09 01:26 PM   #27 
  - That's not what I am talking about.  merh   Sep-01-09 03:00 PM   #67 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-01-09 03:21 PM   #70 
  - If you are poor, without insurance, will be homeless if you lose everything,  benEzra   Sep-01-09 04:08 PM   #78 
  - I think part of it is distrust of government  gratuitous   Sep-01-09 02:49 PM   #58 
  - And in 1980 when Mt. St. Helen erupted  question everything   Sep-01-09 03:00 PM   #66 
  - whoops  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-01-09 01:28 PM   #28 
  - i am hoping they make it.... lesson learned. they say go, go. nt  seabeyond   Sep-01-09 02:02 PM   #29 
  - Maybe the Gubernator they voted for will fly in with guns blazing and rescue them like the movies  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:04 PM   #30 
  - You know, whether or not you approve of their decision to stay,  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:06 PM   #31 
     - No one said it was funny.  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:13 PM   #33 
        - Oh please. The self-satisfied smirks in some of the posts on this thread  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:28 PM   #36 
           - I only made one post. I acknowledge my comments callousness. I am disgusted listening to Ahnolt  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:34 PM   #40 
              - You extended your disgust for the governor to people you don't even know.  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:37 PM   #43 
                 - I understand how upset you are. I'm sorry I contributed to that.  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:41 PM   #45 
  - I nominate this thread  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:09 PM   #32 
  - Just like Arnold Schwarzenegger  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:14 PM   #34 
     - Quick! When called on bad behavior, point to a conservative!  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:35 PM   #41 
        - I dis that phony asshole every time I have to listen to his disgusting voice on the news.  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:42 PM   #47 
           - Except you weren't just dissing "that phony asshole."  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:43 PM   #50 
              - especially in tragedies like this. Please read my other post and consider yourself acknowledged  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:46 PM   #53 
  - Self-absorbed children.  Dogtown   Sep-01-09 02:21 PM   #35 
  - Does posting this make you feel all grown-up and smart?  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:29 PM   #37 
     - Did your snippy response make you feel all warm and fuzzy in self-righteous indignation?  Dogtown   Sep-01-09 02:53 PM   #62 
  - There's a lesson to be learned from this.  BlooInBloo   Sep-01-09 02:30 PM   #38 
  - One that, given some of the posts here, is more about the nature of  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:33 PM   #39 
     - Heh. I was thinking more along the lines of : Glibertarians, either their hypocrites...  BlooInBloo   Sep-01-09 02:36 PM   #42 
        - So you assume that they must not only have voted for Schwarzenegger,  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:39 PM   #44 
           - (shrug) True - it's possible they were simply stupid....  BlooInBloo   Sep-01-09 02:42 PM   #46 
              - Riiight. The fact that they might have died from smoke inhalation instead  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:43 PM   #48 
                 - If it's just as revolting and callous, why did you deliberately choose the unlikely possibilitiy?  BlooInBloo   Sep-01-09 02:45 PM   #51 
                    - Because I can remember the Oakland fire here in the Bay Area  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:47 PM   #54 
                       - Yes, that is theoretically possible.  BlooInBloo   Sep-01-09 02:51 PM   #61 
  - Very little information to bash the 5 people  JonLP24   Sep-01-09 02:43 PM   #49 
  - FACTS:  SoCalDem   Sep-01-09 02:46 PM   #52 
  - Thank Goodness.  Pamela Troy   Sep-01-09 02:48 PM   #56 
  - Very good. Thank you.  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:49 PM   #57 
  - I can understand why they wouldn't go in there  JonLP24   Sep-01-09 02:51 PM   #60 
  - Certainly if it's possible for firefighters to reach them they will. Those staying know what the  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 02:48 PM   #55 
  - You're judging a Sheriff negatively because of another Sheriff  treestar   Sep-01-09 04:02 PM   #76 
     - Actually I did not  JonLP24   Sep-01-09 04:14 PM   #79 
  - Maybe they had animals. But I swear I'd drag the animals kicking and screaming...  xultar   Sep-01-09 02:51 PM   #59 
  - Possible, but unlikely.  Creena   Sep-01-09 02:59 PM   #65 
  - That may well have been part of the reason  SoCalDem   Sep-01-09 03:02 PM   #68 
  - People who have horses are generally planned and prepared for evacuation in  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 03:16 PM   #69 
     - So very true.  Creena   Sep-01-09 03:22 PM   #71 
     - Even suburbanites in Santa Barbara can tell you where to bring your horses: Earl Warren Show Grounds  Hekate   Sep-01-09 03:29 PM   #72 
        - The folks in Ojai are very coordinated as a community to get the horses out.  omega minimo   Sep-01-09 03:34 PM   #73 
  - this is a perfect analogy of our current health care reform debacle  Soylent Brice   Sep-01-09 03:41 PM   #74 
  - It's called "cracking the whip".  cornermouse   Sep-01-09 04:05 PM   #77 
 

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