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Sun Aug-30-09 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #63 |
| 75. So that proves what exactly? |
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Unknowing patsy = rightwing? Amorphous unproven and conjectural conspiracies = right wing?
My initial post was in response to immediately labeling all three as rightwing hate. That does not appear to be the case. Inserting conspiracy theories does nothing to disprove my retort.
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| -"The murder of JFK, MLK and RFK hit our generation like billy club, and we never really got back up" |
Taverner |
Aug-29-09 12:11 PM |
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Well, I got up but its difficult to stay standing these days! |
Raven |
Aug-29-09 12:12 PM |
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yes. It was the death of hope. You cannot know how gut wrenching |
roguevalley |
Aug-30-09 02:08 AM |
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Pretty much sums it up. |
BobRossi |
Aug-29-09 12:12 PM |
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Unfortunately, yes |
liberaltrucker |
Aug-29-09 12:14 PM |
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Agreed... |
wundermaus |
Aug-29-09 12:17 PM |
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For me, it was like being punched in the gut, very hard, three times. |
SeattleGirl |
Aug-29-09 12:14 PM |
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You're so right, SG |
SharonRB |
Aug-29-09 12:34 PM |
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I agree. |
GCP |
Aug-29-09 12:14 PM |
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I agree those were tragedies, but |
JonQ |
Aug-29-09 12:34 PM |
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nonsense |
pretzel4gore |
Aug-29-09 12:53 PM |
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That was a cogent point |
JonQ |
Aug-29-09 05:08 PM |
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More cogent than yours |
omega minimo |
Aug-30-09 12:53 AM |
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I know you are but what am I? |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 10:07 AM |
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JFK's assassination was not done by one person, nor were RFK or MLK's |
loudsue |
Aug-29-09 12:57 PM |
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My bad, I was dealing with facts |
JonQ |
Aug-29-09 05:07 PM |
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Me, too. And not all conspiracies are "theories". |
loudsue |
Aug-29-09 11:23 PM |
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No. You're not. |
omega minimo |
Aug-30-09 12:54 AM |
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Yes. I am. |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 10:05 AM |
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Who put up the "Wanted For Treason" posters? Liberals? |
Cetacea |
Aug-30-09 10:14 AM |
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And who shot him? |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 10:19 AM |
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Occams Razor. How many right-wingers have been wacked? |
Cetacea |
Aug-30-09 10:27 AM |
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Let's see |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 10:41 AM |
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Question: |
Cetacea |
Aug-30-09 11:02 AM |
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Probably of their own accord |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 11:04 AM |
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Interesting. Do you believe the hecklers aren't being coached? |
Cetacea |
Aug-30-09 11:07 AM |
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Nope |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 11:10 AM |
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How about the "Brooks Brothers" gang after the 2000 election? |
Cetacea |
Aug-30-09 11:12 AM |
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Sigh, |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 05:25 PM |
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Question: |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 11:12 AM |
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Who do you think you're fooling? |
omega minimo |
Aug-30-09 10:43 AM |
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No one |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 10:50 AM |
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Well stick around and get some education to support what you call truth. |
omega minimo |
Aug-30-09 11:01 AM |
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Sure, education is great |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 11:02 AM |
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ROFL |
omega minimo |
Aug-30-09 11:24 AM |
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Wow... A Texan That Believes Oswald Shot Kennedy... |
WillyT |
Aug-30-09 11:07 AM |
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Wow, a bigoted, condescending |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 11:09 AM |
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And Just How Many Books On The Assassination Have You Read ??? |
WillyT |
Aug-30-09 11:32 AM |
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Your verdict on Ray is at odds with what the King family believes |
RufusTFirefly |
Aug-29-09 01:04 PM |
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I didn't see a motive mentioned on that site |
JonQ |
Aug-29-09 05:08 PM |
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Sigh. Once again, from the King Center site |
RufusTFirefly |
Aug-29-09 10:23 PM |
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So that proves what exactly? |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 10:06 AM |
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Wow. Hey man, I've got some beachfront property in Arizona to sell ya! |
scarletwoman |
Aug-30-09 10:56 AM |
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You need to listen to the Nixon tapes. |
Doremus |
Aug-30-09 02:04 PM |
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I actually didn't realize |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 02:57 PM |
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Yes. There has always been a sense of loss, of what might have been. |
jaxx |
Aug-29-09 12:15 PM |
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I wasn't even born yet and I've felt it all my life. |
Iris |
Aug-30-09 02:51 AM |
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Yes, oh yes. It seemed like there was no point in trying to fix things, death would ensue. |
SharonAnn |
Aug-29-09 12:16 PM |
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ABSOLUTELY, I would. |
flor de jasmim |
Aug-29-09 12:16 PM |
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Yes, I would agree with that completely. |
Blue_In_AK |
Aug-29-09 12:16 PM |
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I'm a gen Xer ,, I feel your statement |
proud patriot |
Aug-29-09 12:17 PM |
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Yes. There was a sense that anyone who took on the biggest crooks would get a bullet eventually. |
valerief |
Aug-29-09 12:18 PM |
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I think that fear |
drmeow |
Aug-29-09 12:38 PM |
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I'd like to think you're wrong |
Taverner |
Aug-29-09 12:45 PM |
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I think it is purely subconscious |
drmeow |
Aug-29-09 12:58 PM |
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Yep... And The Democratic Convention In Chicago In 1968... |
WillyT |
Aug-29-09 12:18 PM |
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It's true. Every time a true leader popped up, they murdered him. |
Warpy |
Aug-29-09 12:19 PM |
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+1 |
Doremus |
Aug-30-09 01:57 PM |
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The smashing of newly raised hopes took an awful toll. |
JohnnyLib2 |
Aug-29-09 12:19 PM |
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I think there's something to that. nt |
LWolf |
Aug-29-09 12:20 PM |
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Yes lost of great hope - the ideals and values that matter most |
2Design |
Aug-29-09 12:21 PM |
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I grew up in that era in Boston and have always felt optimistic |
HughMoran |
Aug-29-09 12:22 PM |
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Um... It Took A While For Teddy To Do That... |
WillyT |
Aug-29-09 12:27 PM |
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Just sayin' - getting down or giving up isn't ultimately what Teddy was about |
HughMoran |
Aug-29-09 12:32 PM |
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Not A Sucker... A Rarity... And A Good One... |
WillyT |
Aug-29-09 12:42 PM |
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That pretty much sums it up |
Gman |
Aug-29-09 12:25 PM |
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You know what though? |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-29-09 12:25 PM |
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I remember every one of those murders...where I was, what I was doing.. |
truth2power |
Aug-29-09 12:26 PM |
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How optimistic, pessimistic one is is mostly a hard-wired thing |
AngryAmish |
Aug-29-09 12:28 PM |
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As Ted taught his son after the kid lost a leg: Even the worst tragedy is survivable. |
Hekate |
Aug-29-09 12:28 PM |
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Yes. |
PDJane |
Aug-29-09 12:28 PM |
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I was 4 months old when JFK was cut down. |
liberalmuse |
Aug-29-09 12:29 PM |
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Sean Lennon. |
Cetacea |
Aug-30-09 10:23 AM |
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Another assassination. |
omega minimo |
Aug-30-09 10:45 AM |
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PS |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-29-09 12:30 PM |
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well, it's certainly true that they made a lasting impression.... |
mike_c |
Aug-29-09 12:31 PM |
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Absolutely, |
mother earth |
Aug-29-09 12:31 PM |
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Got up but do not trust this government to protect this president. |
MichiganVote |
Aug-29-09 12:33 PM |
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I think to some degree it is true |
SharonRB |
Aug-29-09 12:34 PM |
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The Kennedy Generation - that's what someone called "us" |
October |
Aug-29-09 12:34 PM |
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October |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-29-09 12:45 PM |
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One can be both cynical AND optimistic |
Taverner |
Aug-29-09 12:52 PM |
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Very insightful |
October |
Aug-29-09 06:42 PM |
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Growing up in MA, the Kennedy's were and example to set your course by. |
graywarrior |
Aug-29-09 12:46 PM |
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Yup. The bad guys won |
RufusTFirefly |
Aug-29-09 12:57 PM |
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yes. they were the 1st in an unending series of billie clubs |
northernlights |
Aug-29-09 12:59 PM |
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I was fifteen when JFK was assassinated. |
man4allcats |
Aug-29-09 01:01 PM |
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when Bobby died, hope was gone |
riverwalker |
Aug-29-09 01:09 PM |
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NO!! most of us did not lay down & curl up in the fetal position. We got up again & began to work... |
Hekate |
Aug-29-09 01:09 PM |
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spurred me to stand up and fight on. |
Kip Humphrey |
Aug-29-09 01:13 PM |
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It wasn't just those assassinations though, |
Iterate |
Aug-29-09 01:14 PM |
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There's another thing, too, in that television was still new in the 60s. |
EFerrari |
Aug-29-09 06:01 PM |
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Lots of bad stuff happened from 1963 - 1979 |
FarCenter |
Aug-29-09 01:20 PM |
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I'd have to agree. In my case the hopes and dreams |
SaveOurDemocracy |
Aug-29-09 02:13 PM |
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I like it. It was either go low or go wild. Pre-boomers hit hard too. |
Festivito |
Aug-29-09 02:39 PM |
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True for me to a large extent |
laughingliberal |
Aug-29-09 02:45 PM |
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Agreed. Well Stated. (n/t) |
Paladin |
Aug-29-09 05:51 PM |
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It all started when I was 12 but I continued to hope until Iran-Contra. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-29-09 05:56 PM |
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Yes, and it was not just those good men, it was the death of the movement |
csziggy |
Aug-29-09 10:29 PM |
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Interesting idea, Taverner. I had never really thought of it that way because I was raised |
bertman |
Aug-29-09 11:31 PM |
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Man-O-Man... What You Said !!! + 1000 |
WillyT |
Aug-29-09 11:36 PM |
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Totally accurate assessment IMHO n/t |
laughingliberal |
Aug-30-09 02:57 AM |
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I'm recommending this thread for this reply |
Doctor_J |
Aug-30-09 10:33 AM |
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Thank you bertman. The best of DU, right here. |
omega minimo |
Aug-30-09 10:49 AM |
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in WW2 the 'greatest generation' felt empowered |
pretzel4gore |
Aug-30-09 01:10 PM |
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I was too young to absorb the pain surrounding the times |
mzmolly |
Aug-30-09 12:53 AM |
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Group psychology. |
H2O Man |
Aug-30-09 10:17 AM |
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It probably doesn't help that we've never fought back |
Doctor_J |
Aug-30-09 10:28 AM |
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Yes. |
Hansel |
Aug-30-09 10:36 AM |
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No, the war overshadowed all of that. |
rug |
Aug-30-09 10:47 AM |
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I was just a young girl when kennedy was shot.... |
winyanstaz |
Aug-30-09 11:22 AM |
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Yes and no - those deaths still hurt, but I look back and see all the changes |
hedgehog |
Aug-30-09 01:36 PM |
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My first memory in life was the JFK assassination......Tell me about it ! |
RagAss |
Aug-30-09 01:39 PM |
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I think if you add to those assasinations |
ohheckyeah |
Aug-30-09 01:53 PM |
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And who were behind these killings just one crazed lone gunman each time..... |
GreenTea |
Aug-30-09 01:56 PM |
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They were terrible blows |
TuxedoKat |
Aug-30-09 08:03 PM |
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