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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:15 PM
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6. Yes. There has always been a sense of loss, of what might have been.
Today I have hope again that we'll make it and come out on top.
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  -"The murder of JFK, MLK and RFK hit our generation like billy club, and we never really got back up" Taverner  Aug-29-09 12:11 PM   #0 
  - Well, I got up but its difficult to stay standing these days!  Raven   Aug-29-09 12:12 PM   #1 
  - yes. It was the death of hope. You cannot know how gut wrenching  roguevalley   Aug-30-09 02:08 AM   #71 
  - Pretty much sums it up.  BobRossi   Aug-29-09 12:12 PM   #2 
  - Unfortunately, yes  liberaltrucker   Aug-29-09 12:14 PM   #3 
  - Agreed...  wundermaus   Aug-29-09 12:17 PM   #10 
  - For me, it was like being punched in the gut, very hard, three times.  SeattleGirl   Aug-29-09 12:14 PM   #4 
  - You're so right, SG  SharonRB   Aug-29-09 12:34 PM   #34 
  - I agree.  GCP   Aug-29-09 12:14 PM   #5 
  - I agree those were tragedies, but  JonQ   Aug-29-09 12:34 PM   # 
     - nonsense  pretzel4gore   Aug-29-09 12:53 PM   #41 
     - That was a cogent point  JonQ   Aug-29-09 05:08 PM   #58 
        - More cogent than yours  omega minimo   Aug-30-09 12:53 AM   #68 
           - I know you are but what am I?  JonQ   Aug-30-09 10:07 AM   #76 
     - JFK's assassination was not done by one person, nor were RFK or MLK's  loudsue   Aug-29-09 12:57 PM   #42 
     - My bad, I was dealing with facts  JonQ   Aug-29-09 05:07 PM   #56 
        - Me, too. And not all conspiracies are "theories".  loudsue   Aug-29-09 11:23 PM   #65 
        - No. You're not.  omega minimo   Aug-30-09 12:54 AM   #70 
           - Yes. I am.  JonQ   Aug-30-09 10:05 AM   #74 
              - Who put up the "Wanted For Treason" posters? Liberals?  Cetacea   Aug-30-09 10:14 AM   #77 
              - And who shot him?  JonQ   Aug-30-09 10:19 AM   #79 
                 - Occams Razor. How many right-wingers have been wacked?  Cetacea   Aug-30-09 10:27 AM   #81 
                    - Let's see  JonQ   Aug-30-09 10:41 AM   #85 
                       - Question:  Cetacea   Aug-30-09 11:02 AM   #93 
                          - Probably of their own accord  JonQ   Aug-30-09 11:04 AM   #95 
                          - Interesting. Do you believe the hecklers aren't being coached?  Cetacea   Aug-30-09 11:07 AM   #96 
                             - Nope  JonQ   Aug-30-09 11:10 AM   #99 
                                - How about the "Brooks Brothers" gang after the 2000 election?  Cetacea   Aug-30-09 11:12 AM   #100 
                                   - Sigh,  JonQ   Aug-30-09 05:25 PM   #113 
                          - Question:  JonQ   Aug-30-09 11:12 AM   #101 
              - Who do you think you're fooling?  omega minimo   Aug-30-09 10:43 AM   #86 
                 - No one  JonQ   Aug-30-09 10:50 AM   #90 
                    - Well stick around and get some education to support what you call truth.  omega minimo   Aug-30-09 11:01 AM   #92 
                    - Sure, education is great  JonQ   Aug-30-09 11:02 AM   #94 
                       - ROFL  omega minimo   Aug-30-09 11:24 AM   #103 
                    - Wow... A Texan That Believes Oswald Shot Kennedy...  WillyT   Aug-30-09 11:07 AM   #97 
                       - Wow, a bigoted, condescending  JonQ   Aug-30-09 11:09 AM   #98 
                          - And Just How Many Books On The Assassination Have You Read ???  WillyT   Aug-30-09 11:32 AM   #104 
     - Your verdict on Ray is at odds with what the King family believes  RufusTFirefly   Aug-29-09 01:04 PM   #47 
     - I didn't see a motive mentioned on that site  JonQ   Aug-29-09 05:08 PM   #57 
        - Sigh. Once again, from the King Center site  RufusTFirefly   Aug-29-09 10:23 PM   #63 
           - So that proves what exactly?  JonQ   Aug-30-09 10:06 AM   #75 
     - Wow. Hey man, I've got some beachfront property in Arizona to sell ya!  scarletwoman   Aug-30-09 10:56 AM   #91 
     - You need to listen to the Nixon tapes.  Doremus   Aug-30-09 02:04 PM   #111 
        - I actually didn't realize  JonQ   Aug-30-09 02:57 PM   #112 
  - Yes. There has always been a sense of loss, of what might have been.  jaxx   Aug-29-09 12:15 PM   #6 
  - I wasn't even born yet and I've felt it all my life.  Iris   Aug-30-09 02:51 AM   #72 
  - Yes, oh yes. It seemed like there was no point in trying to fix things, death would ensue.  SharonAnn   Aug-29-09 12:16 PM   #7 
  - ABSOLUTELY, I would.  flor de jasmim   Aug-29-09 12:16 PM   #8 
  - Yes, I would agree with that completely.  Blue_In_AK   Aug-29-09 12:16 PM   #9 
  - I'm a gen Xer ,, I feel your statement  proud patriot   Aug-29-09 12:17 PM   #11 
  - Yes. There was a sense that anyone who took on the biggest crooks would get a bullet eventually.  valerief   Aug-29-09 12:18 PM   #12 
  - I think that fear  drmeow   Aug-29-09 12:38 PM   #35 
     - I'd like to think you're wrong  Taverner   Aug-29-09 12:45 PM   #37 
        - I think it is purely subconscious  drmeow   Aug-29-09 12:58 PM   #44 
  - Yep... And The Democratic Convention In Chicago In 1968...  WillyT   Aug-29-09 12:18 PM   #13 
  - It's true. Every time a true leader popped up, they murdered him.  Warpy   Aug-29-09 12:19 PM   #14 
  - +1  Doremus   Aug-30-09 01:57 PM   #110 
  - The smashing of newly raised hopes took an awful toll.  JohnnyLib2   Aug-29-09 12:19 PM   #15 
  - I think there's something to that. nt  LWolf   Aug-29-09 12:20 PM   #16 
  - Yes lost of great hope - the ideals and values that matter most  2Design   Aug-29-09 12:21 PM   #17 
  - I grew up in that era in Boston and have always felt optimistic  HughMoran   Aug-29-09 12:22 PM   #18 
  - Um... It Took A While For Teddy To Do That...  WillyT   Aug-29-09 12:27 PM   #22 
     - Just sayin' - getting down or giving up isn't ultimately what Teddy was about  HughMoran   Aug-29-09 12:32 PM   #30 
        - Not A Sucker... A Rarity... And A Good One...  WillyT   Aug-29-09 12:42 PM   #36 
  - That pretty much sums it up  Gman   Aug-29-09 12:25 PM   #19 
  - You know what though?  JustAnotherGen   Aug-29-09 12:25 PM   #20 
  - I remember every one of those murders...where I was, what I was doing..  truth2power   Aug-29-09 12:26 PM   #21 
  - How optimistic, pessimistic one is is mostly a hard-wired thing  AngryAmish   Aug-29-09 12:28 PM   #23 
  - As Ted taught his son after the kid lost a leg: Even the worst tragedy is survivable.  Hekate   Aug-29-09 12:28 PM   #24 
  - Yes.  PDJane   Aug-29-09 12:28 PM   #25 
  - I was 4 months old when JFK was cut down.  liberalmuse   Aug-29-09 12:29 PM   #26 
  - Sean Lennon.  Cetacea   Aug-30-09 10:23 AM   #80 
     - Another assassination.  omega minimo   Aug-30-09 10:45 AM   #87 
  - PS  JustAnotherGen   Aug-29-09 12:30 PM   #27 
  - well, it's certainly true that they made a lasting impression....  mike_c   Aug-29-09 12:31 PM   #28 
  - Absolutely,  mother earth   Aug-29-09 12:31 PM   #29 
  - Got up but do not trust this government to protect this president.  MichiganVote   Aug-29-09 12:33 PM   #31 
  - I think to some degree it is true  SharonRB   Aug-29-09 12:34 PM   #32 
  - The Kennedy Generation - that's what someone called "us"  October   Aug-29-09 12:34 PM   #33 
  - October  JustAnotherGen   Aug-29-09 12:45 PM   #38 
     - One can be both cynical AND optimistic  Taverner   Aug-29-09 12:52 PM   #40 
     - Very insightful  October   Aug-29-09 06:42 PM   #62 
  - Growing up in MA, the Kennedy's were and example to set your course by.  graywarrior   Aug-29-09 12:46 PM   #39 
  - Yup. The bad guys won  RufusTFirefly   Aug-29-09 12:57 PM   #43 
  - yes. they were the 1st in an unending series of billie clubs  northernlights   Aug-29-09 12:59 PM   #45 
  - I was fifteen when JFK was assassinated.  man4allcats   Aug-29-09 01:01 PM   #46 
  - when Bobby died, hope was gone  riverwalker   Aug-29-09 01:09 PM   #48 
  - NO!! most of us did not lay down & curl up in the fetal position. We got up again & began to work...  Hekate   Aug-29-09 01:09 PM   #49 
  - spurred me to stand up and fight on.  Kip Humphrey   Aug-29-09 01:13 PM   #50 
  - It wasn't just those assassinations though,  Iterate   Aug-29-09 01:14 PM   #51 
  - There's another thing, too, in that television was still new in the 60s.  EFerrari   Aug-29-09 06:01 PM   #61 
  - Lots of bad stuff happened from 1963 - 1979  FarCenter   Aug-29-09 01:20 PM   #52 
  - I'd have to agree. In my case the hopes and dreams  SaveOurDemocracy   Aug-29-09 02:13 PM   #53 
  - I like it. It was either go low or go wild. Pre-boomers hit hard too.  Festivito   Aug-29-09 02:39 PM   #54 
  - True for me to a large extent  laughingliberal   Aug-29-09 02:45 PM   #55 
  - Agreed. Well Stated. (n/t)  Paladin   Aug-29-09 05:51 PM   #59 
  - It all started when I was 12 but I continued to hope until Iran-Contra.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-29-09 05:56 PM   #60 
  - Yes, and it was not just those good men, it was the death of the movement  csziggy   Aug-29-09 10:29 PM   #64 
  - Interesting idea, Taverner. I had never really thought of it that way because I was raised  bertman   Aug-29-09 11:31 PM   #66 
  - Man-O-Man... What You Said !!! + 1000  WillyT   Aug-29-09 11:36 PM   #67 
  - Totally accurate assessment IMHO n/t  laughingliberal   Aug-30-09 02:57 AM   #73 
  - I'm recommending this thread for this reply  Doctor_J   Aug-30-09 10:33 AM   #83 
  - Thank you bertman. The best of DU, right here.  omega minimo   Aug-30-09 10:49 AM   #89 
  - in WW2 the 'greatest generation' felt empowered  pretzel4gore   Aug-30-09 01:10 PM   #105 
  - I was too young to absorb the pain surrounding the times  mzmolly   Aug-30-09 12:53 AM   #69 
  - Group psychology.  H2O Man   Aug-30-09 10:17 AM   #78 
  - It probably doesn't help that we've never fought back  Doctor_J   Aug-30-09 10:28 AM   #82 
  - Yes.  Hansel   Aug-30-09 10:36 AM   #84 
  - No, the war overshadowed all of that.  rug   Aug-30-09 10:47 AM   #88 
  - I was just a young girl when kennedy was shot....  winyanstaz   Aug-30-09 11:22 AM   #102 
  - Yes and no - those deaths still hurt, but I look back and see all the changes  hedgehog   Aug-30-09 01:36 PM   #106 
  - My first memory in life was the JFK assassination......Tell me about it !  RagAss   Aug-30-09 01:39 PM   #107 
  - I think if you add to those assasinations  ohheckyeah   Aug-30-09 01:53 PM   #108 
  - And who were behind these killings just one crazed lone gunman each time.....  GreenTea   Aug-30-09 01:56 PM   #109 
  - They were terrible blows  TuxedoKat   Aug-30-09 08:03 PM   #114 
 

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