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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:58 PM
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11. Most of them.
#1) Doctors who have quit practices because of our effed up system, will probably go back into medicine now that they know they will be paid. Doctors and nurses who work for insurance companies will be given new jobs to meet the demand. Sure it will be a little heavy at first as people who should have gotten health care but couldn't will now go to the doctor. In other countries, this leveled out over the course of a year or two until they have the same or even lesser wait time than we do. Doctors will probably move into rural areas who didn't before seeing patients that had to go to the city, easing the load on the city doctors.

#2) It won't hurt seniors as long as they don't cut back Medicare and I have seen nothing like that in any of the bills offered. Some even improve Medicare.

#3) The waste being talked about being cut in Medicare is money given to the private insurers for Medicare Advantage plans, which should be cut out. The private insurers are a big drain on Medicare and they don't really offer any advantage because most doctors don't want to take them.

#4)Rationing would probably be less than it is now. I get Medicare and pretty much have gotten what I needed unlike the hurdles I have had to jump with private health plans.

#5)I have never been limited in my medication except in affordability. When I had private insurance I was denied medicine that I was allowed under Medicare.

#6)Our own Andy Stephenson is a testimony on denial when he had a cancer that could have been operated on if he had only had the money to do it in time. If he had Medicare the operation would have been done and paid for.

As for the ancedotal incidents, a little research often shows that there were other factors in play. In one instance touted as an example of the failure of Canadian medicine, it turns out the patient was delaying the surgery he needed and finally agreed to have it a little too late.
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  -The anti-Obama healthcare plan ad that networks are refusing to air: MercutioATC  Aug-27-09 03:33 PM   #0 
  - I see more than half truths. Some of those allegations are out and out  Cleita   Aug-27-09 03:37 PM   #1 
  - Which allegations are lies?  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 03:40 PM   #4 
     - that the UK system in any way resembles what is being proposed. It Doesn't  Motown_Johnny   Aug-27-09 03:42 PM   #6 
     - That's a matter of degree.  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 03:45 PM   #8 
        - Wrong, the UK has nationalized health care. The providers are government employees  Motown_Johnny   Aug-27-09 08:29 PM   #19 
     - Most of them.  Cleita   Aug-27-09 03:58 PM   #11 
        - By the numbers:  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 05:46 PM   #12 
           - Of course it stays just on the right side of the line, but it doesn't make  Cleita   Aug-27-09 07:04 PM   #13 
              - I think we're just disagreeing on the definition of the word "lie".  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 07:32 PM   #15 
                 - I think it's a lie.  Usrename   Aug-27-09 08:08 PM   #17 
                    - I really don't know how to respond to that.  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 08:25 PM   #18 
  - America has THE BEST HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD™!!!!  baldguy   Aug-27-09 03:39 PM   #2 
  - I agree. Decent care for those who can pay.  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 03:42 PM   #7 
  - the U.K.. has nationalized health care, the proposed system in no way resembles this  Motown_Johnny   Aug-27-09 03:39 PM   #3 
  - "Networks should not be forced to air propaganda"???  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 03:47 PM   #9 
     - you asked if it should be banned .... after starting with the fact that networks are refusing to air  Motown_Johnny   Aug-27-09 08:34 PM   #20 
  - it will hurt our seniors is subjective?  Uzybone   Aug-27-09 03:41 PM   #5 
  - It DOES cut $200B from Medicare over 10 years.  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 03:49 PM   #10 
  - What networks refused to air liberal ads and when?  Emit   Aug-27-09 07:26 PM   #14 
     - Here are a couple:  MercutioATC   Aug-27-09 07:50 PM   #16 
 

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