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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 06:57 PM
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29. "Tort Reform" is a GOP propaganda scam.
They've used it the past 25 years or so, and it has always been a propaganda theme for the GOP and two of its favorite business sectors - insurance companies and big businesses.

It is propaganda, put out to argue that those bad old plaintiffs' personal injury lawyers are creating cases out of thin air, and making the insurers and their business customers pay money they don't really owe. They argue that the only real reason for such lawsuits is to make more money for the Democratic personal injury lawyers.

The reality is that the insurance and business sectors oppose any concept that would allow plaintiffs who are successful to recover their attorney's fees as part of their recovery, as is the practice in contract cases.

In most cases in law, there is the potential for an award of attorneys fees. But in tort cases, that is not available in most states. That's how the insurance industry likes it, because they can force a plaintiff to have a contingency fee lawyer or none at all, and then they can wail mightily about it, so they can complain about the fee the plaintiff's lawyer gets on contingency.

The solution is simple. Make the insurance industry pay the winner's attorney's fees in such cases, and add that number to the recovery. That way, the plaintiff who is getting less than his or her full recovery under the current system would be paid in full their recovery.

I have long favored that approach, because the current one vastly favors the insurance industry.

Being a lawyer representing civil defendants and their insurance company pays a lot better than being a lawyer for the personal injury plaintiff, in all but a handful of cases. It's only the big recoveries, which are a very, very small percentage of the total, in which the plaintiff's attorney pulls down more cash than the lawyer for the civil defendant makes.
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  -Can anyone exolain "tort reform to me? I believe if someone is napi21  Aug-25-09 05:03 PM   #0 
  - my issue is when the injured guy gets a small percentage and the lawyer walks with millions  vadawg   Aug-25-09 05:05 PM   #1 
  - It's a standard third. If he asks for more, get another lawyer.  aquart   Aug-25-09 05:07 PM   #3 
  - What aquart said. Seriously, a good lawyer earns it and if s/he asks for more than that, run, don't  blondeatlast   Aug-25-09 05:10 PM   #7 
  - It varies.  Laelth   Aug-25-09 06:35 PM   #27 
  - Actually, the lawyer generally gets a third or so of the haul  Warpy   Aug-25-09 05:10 PM   #6 
  - Yeah, That Situation is Common in Stockholder Suits  On the Road   Aug-25-09 05:33 PM   #19 
  - Hiccup  Warpy   Aug-25-09 05:10 PM   #8 
  - Then you don't have an issue.  The Stranger   Aug-25-09 05:11 PM   #9 
  - A soution to that would be for the Federal government to actually enforce the laws  depakid   Aug-25-09 08:25 PM   #34 
  - yea, but repukes like to complain about "liberal lawyers" to ignorant folks  NightWatcher   Aug-25-09 05:05 PM   #2 
  - Ugh. I call that narrator "marble mouth guy" - you know you're in for a crock of shit when you hear  Maru Kitteh   Aug-25-09 05:19 PM   #13 
  - Most of the outrageous awards are remedied (usually reduc on appeal; note that I didn't say "many,"  blondeatlast   Aug-25-09 05:08 PM   #4 
  - You're watching spin by large corporate interests  taterguy   Aug-25-09 05:09 PM   #5 
  - Here is one example that blows my mind.  napi21   Aug-25-09 05:36 PM   #20 
     - How much money has the plaintiff collected?  taterguy   Aug-25-09 06:25 PM   #26 
        - I read that aetickle and the 3rd court said $28MM  napi21   Aug-25-09 07:58 PM   #30 
  - Ideally, the plaintiff should still be compensated for the monies lost for  no_hypocrisy   Aug-25-09 05:12 PM   #10 
  - I see two problems with how punitive damages are allocated  ParkieDem   Aug-25-09 05:56 PM   #22 
  - Nebraska and Texas have the most restrictive medical tort law in the country and it has NOT brought  Maru Kitteh   Aug-25-09 05:14 PM   #11 
  - The McDonald's coffee case is a perfect example of how the media spins  WCGreen   Aug-25-09 05:18 PM   #12 
  - And as I mention upthread, the case was appealed and the award reduced--which is quite typical. nt  blondeatlast   Aug-25-09 05:21 PM   #14 
  - But the fact that Mickey D's paid off so many others in order to  WCGreen   Aug-25-09 05:33 PM   #18 
     - Oh, hell yes. She still won almost $500k and was entitled to every penny, lawyers' fees, and then  blondeatlast   Aug-25-09 06:52 PM   #28 
  - Yes. I had personal knowledge of the facts in this case, but in  marybourg   Aug-25-09 05:56 PM   #23 
  - Would people have understood better if it was a man whose penis and scrotum needed skin grafts?  SharonAnn   Aug-25-09 06:25 PM   #25 
  - I have never known a person to receive a large sum of money.  theoldman   Aug-25-09 05:23 PM   #15 
  - Tort law works on this principle: someone will pay for every injury.  Laelth   Aug-25-09 05:28 PM   #16 
  - It's a rich vs. poor issue.  Eric J in MN   Aug-25-09 05:31 PM   #17 
  - It's sort of like voter fraud reform.  Uncle Joe   Aug-25-09 05:46 PM   #21 
  - It's something people who get sued alot advocate. n/t  rucky   Aug-25-09 05:57 PM   #24 
  - "Tort Reform" is a GOP propaganda scam.  TexasObserver   Aug-25-09 06:57 PM   #29 
  - Tort reform surely is propaganda  laughingliberal   Aug-25-09 08:09 PM   #32 
     - If they really want tort reform, eliminate the biggest item of monetary damages: health care costs.  TexasObserver   Aug-26-09 12:45 AM   #35 
  - "but I've heard of insane compensations in some cases too."  Warren Stupidity   Aug-25-09 08:07 PM   #31 
  - So called "tort reform" means no recourse against abusive corporations  depakid   Aug-25-09 08:15 PM   #33 
 

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