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Reply #3: I read Holder's statement and it says this [View All]

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Aug-24-09 03:23 PM
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3. I read Holder's statement and it says this
Edited on Mon Aug-24-09 03:26 PM by Solly Mack
"...information known to me warrants opening a preliminary review into whether federal laws were violated in connection with the interrogation of specific detainees at overseas locations. The Department regularly uses preliminary reviews to gather information to determine whether there is sufficient predication to warrant a full investigation of a matter..."

So it's a preliminary review to see if laws were violated, as a means to gather information to determine if there will be a full investigation...


http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/testimony/2009/ag-testimony-090...
Holder goes on to say:

"I want to emphasize that neither the opening of a preliminary review nor, if evidence warrants it, the commencement of a full investigation, means that charges will necessarily follow."


Which doesn't mean there won't eventually be some kind of prosecutions... but if people want to be fair, his statement doesn't say "we will prosecute"...it does say it is a review to determine if there will be a full investigation though

If people want to be fair, that is
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  Check in and apologize if you posted that Obama/Holder would NEVER prosecute Bush crimes!! HamdenRice  Aug-24-09 03:17 PM   #0 
   you mean, as in MEANINGFUL, far-reaching,comprehensive and worthwhile?  niyad   Aug-24-09 03:19 PM   #1 
   This Thread Doesn't Apply To Me But...  ConnorMarc   Aug-24-09 03:21 PM   #2 
   I read Holder's statement and it says this  Solly Mack   Aug-24-09 03:23 PM   #3 
   Naw, the blind cheerleader brigade doesn't believe in fair...  joeybee12   Aug-24-09 04:11 PM   #27 
   "If people want to be fair, that is" +1000 n/t  slipslidingaway   Aug-24-09 06:23 PM   #38 
   Actually, this isn't about prosecuting Bush/Cheney crimes...  polichick   Aug-24-09 03:24 PM   #4 
   I see the unrec'ing crew is slinking in anonymously!  HamdenRice   Aug-24-09 03:30 PM   #5 
   Crickets was exactly what I was thinking. nt  Cant trust em   Aug-24-09 03:30 PM   #6 
   Don't worry. There will still be plenty for the complainophiles to whine about. nt  Cant trust em   Aug-24-09 03:31 PM   #7 
   "complainophiles"?  HamdenRice   Aug-24-09 03:38 PM   #8 
   Hmmm,  cwydro   Aug-24-09 03:39 PM   #9 
   wow this is one idiotic post  endarkenment   Aug-24-09 03:40 PM   #10 
   Not as idiotic as people who are already saying, "too little, too late." nt  HamdenRice   Aug-24-09 03:48 PM   #14 
   Why are you ignoring the fact that this doesn't address Bush/Cheney crimes? nt  polichick   Aug-24-09 03:56 PM   #23 
      Another seer, predicting the future. But past predictions of the future didn't work out so well  HamdenRice   Aug-24-09 03:59 PM   #24 
         THIS investigation only allows for a narrow scope...  polichick   Aug-24-09 04:10 PM   #26 
   I know...it's a development that means nothing right now...  joeybee12   Aug-24-09 04:12 PM   #28 
   I spent 15 months of my life at a most impressionable time  madokie   Aug-24-09 03:41 PM   #11 
   Just to temper this nice post with realism -- how long did Iran Contra take? Watergate?  HamdenRice   Aug-24-09 03:47 PM   #12 
      Watergate and Iran/Contra were investigated at the times they occurred. There is no Independent  omega minimo   Aug-24-09 03:56 PM   #19 
      Sometimes I have to check to make sure I'm at the right place with all the Obama bashing and all  madokie   Aug-24-09 06:15 PM   #30 
   When were there prosecutions of Bush* or any in his Cabal?  Winterblues   Aug-24-09 03:48 PM   #13 
   The goal post will be moved, you know...  JuniperLea   Aug-24-09 03:49 PM   #15 
   Where does Holder say anything about prosecution  Orwellian_Ghost   Aug-24-09 03:49 PM   #16 
   So you are demanding prosecutions before investigations?  HamdenRice   Aug-24-09 03:52 PM   #18 
      No. But I AM demanding prosecutions before  Truth2Tell   Aug-24-09 03:56 PM   #22 
      This particular post is absolutely hysterically laughable in light of:  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-24-09 06:23 PM   #37 
   I don't know that I ever said that  gratuitous   Aug-24-09 03:51 PM   #17 
   I didn't mean this as a particularly serious OP, but thanks for the serious answer! nt  HamdenRice   Aug-24-09 03:56 PM   #20 
   i'll check in and apologize when that actually happens..  frylock   Aug-24-09 03:56 PM   # 
   is it hot in here, or is it just me...  Soylent Brice   Aug-24-09 03:56 PM   #21 
   I would love to be able to apologize for my doubts.  damntexdem   Aug-24-09 04:00 PM   #25 
   Shouldn't there be an investigation to see if crimes have been committed...  Cant trust em   Aug-24-09 04:19 PM   #29 
   What are you, 10?  Forkboy   Aug-24-09 06:17 PM   #31 
   Just checking in to post that President Obama/ AG Holder STILL HAVEN'T prosecuted * crimes.  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-24-09 06:18 PM   #32 
   I will begin a preliminary investigation to determine whether such an action is warranted.  rug   Aug-24-09 06:20 PM   #33 
   Here I am.. The executive branch cannot request legal arguments from his OLC  mmonk   Aug-24-09 06:20 PM   #34 
   I didnt hear, when's the trial start?  NightWatcher   Aug-24-09 06:20 PM   #35 
   Holder's "preliminary review" is very far from a prosecution.  librechik   Aug-24-09 06:21 PM   #36 
   How about Obama checks in and apologizes for having to be forced into doing the right thing all the  ddeclue   Aug-24-09 06:23 PM   #39 
   Hasn't happened yet, not even close.  nc4bo   Aug-24-09 06:27 PM   #40 
   As soon as an indictment of IFB, Cheney, or Turd Blossom is handed down for their crimes,  Greyhound   Aug-24-09 06:28 PM   #41 
   Who has been prosecuted?  bermudat   Aug-24-09 06:29 PM   #42 
 

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