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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:42 PM
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22. And eventually, over many years on the bottom, she might become a sort of reef.
A home for marine wildlife.


That would be very karmically beautiful. I will send out some prayers for that (and some donations to the Sea Shepherd.)
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  -Whale Wars helicopter pilot tells about the Japanese Harpooning the Minke Whale Annces  Aug-21-09 02:43 PM   #0 
  - It has become more and more difficult to watch  grantcart   Aug-21-09 02:50 PM   #1 
  - Yes, I had watching whales die, but hopefully it will encourage people  Larkspur   Aug-21-09 02:57 PM   #3 
  - when will we finally BOYCOTT JAPANESE GOODS & SERVICES?  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:06 PM   #103 
  - Next campaign Watson will have a water cannon on the Steve Irwin plus  Larkspur   Aug-21-09 02:56 PM   #2 
  - And they need some kind of air cannon to shoot the bottles at them high enough to go over the nets.  Parker CA   Aug-21-09 03:08 PM   #5 
  - seems like wrist rockets would do the trick -- maybe there's a reason why they're not  nashville_brook   Aug-21-09 09:14 PM   #13 
  - I thought they were concerned about losing their registration is they did direct attacks from  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-21-09 07:15 PM   #7 
  - We have the nukes.  Cetacea   Aug-21-09 09:01 PM   #11 
  - That can play both ways. Didn't there used to be a vessel called the Rainbow Warrior?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-21-09 10:51 PM   #25 
     - Yep, and lots of people know  Pavulon   Aug-21-09 10:55 PM   #28 
     - Thank you for not taking my post literally.  Cetacea   Aug-23-09 03:25 AM   #163 
  - If it escalates japan will be unwilling  Pavulon   Aug-21-09 10:52 PM   # 
  - Australians? I was thinking between Watson and the Japanese  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-21-09 10:55 PM   #29 
     - Japan is on its own.  Pavulon   Aug-21-09 10:59 PM   #33 
  - Watson refrained for attacking directly from the Steve Irwin, but when  Larkspur   Aug-21-09 11:58 PM   #42 
     - I would hardly call the whalers actions hyper agressive.  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-22-09 09:21 AM   #49 
        - All who sail with Watson know the risks and they publicly admit that  Larkspur   Aug-22-09 11:51 PM   #141 
           - The so called shooting of Watson was never backed up by any investigating agency.  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-23-09 01:30 AM   #151 
  - earthrace:  Gabi Hayes   Aug-21-09 07:34 PM   #8 
  - "An animated music video directed by the late Heath Ledger has had it debut on the web......  Gabi Hayes   Aug-21-09 07:37 PM   #9 
     - This is a very powerful video. n/t  onestepforward   Aug-21-09 10:34 PM   #20 
     - They pulled it from your link. Here's one that's working still:  Doremus   Aug-21-09 11:24 PM   #39 
  - I think they need to redesign their prop fowlers too.  onestepforward   Aug-21-09 10:27 PM   #18 
     - Or...weight the whole thing so it settles just a couple feet under the surface  flvegan   Aug-21-09 10:33 PM   #19 
        - Good idea!  onestepforward   Aug-21-09 10:39 PM   #21 
        - Correct.  Pavulon   Aug-21-09 10:50 PM   #24 
  - A covert operation is needed to disable the ships  Submariner   Aug-21-09 03:01 PM   #4 
  - When "The Cove" goes to DVD, there will be outrage.  Cetacea   Aug-21-09 09:04 PM   #12 
  - The Nisshun Maru would look so peaceful sitting at the bottom of her harbor.  flvegan   Aug-21-09 03:12 PM   #6 
  - And eventually, over many years on the bottom, she might become a sort of reef.  Withywindle   Aug-21-09 10:42 PM   #22 
  - It would be beautiful.  flvegan   Aug-21-09 11:24 PM   #40 
     - I like pirates.  Withywindle   Aug-22-09 02:12 AM   #44 
  - +1  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:08 PM   #105 
  - while watching this season  Coexist   Aug-21-09 07:44 PM   #10 
  - i was trying not to get all emotionally involved in it -- trying to "watch" it from a distance...  nashville_brook   Aug-21-09 09:16 PM   #14 
  - I don't think it's the crew that's disorganized  XemaSab   Aug-21-09 09:34 PM   #15 
  - Its pretty poorly run and there is clearly a lot of playing to the cameras n/t  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-21-09 10:53 PM   #27 
     - so WHAT?  Gabi Hayes   Aug-21-09 10:56 PM   #30 
     - Because amateurs make mistakes, mistakes at sea can kill people, especially in those latitudes n/t  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-21-09 11:23 PM   #38 
     - Most of the crew are volunteers and may not have much sailing experience  Larkspur   Aug-21-09 11:51 PM   #41 
  - It was very hard to not cry at last week's episode  tammywammy   Aug-21-09 10:17 PM   #17 
  - Several lasers directed into the eyes of a harpooner might incapacitate him.  arcadian   Aug-21-09 09:48 PM   #16 
  - A technology waiting for regulation..  Pavulon   Aug-21-09 10:48 PM   #23 
  - We already know it works on pilots  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-21-09 10:52 PM   #26 
     - Those are guys with green laser toys.  Pavulon   Aug-21-09 10:57 PM   #31 
        - Seen similar videos. Its was a real problem with targeting lasers to make them eye safe.  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-21-09 11:06 PM   #35 
           - The best way to collapse a problem  Pavulon   Aug-21-09 11:12 PM   #36 
              - Watson or the Japanese?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-21-09 11:17 PM   #37 
              - A vessel. not people.  Pavulon   Aug-22-09 08:58 AM   #45 
                 - Any butchering is. Cow, horse, pigs, chickens, and whales  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-22-09 09:13 AM   #46 
                    - Exactly  spiritual_gunfighter   Aug-22-09 09:43 AM   #51 
                    - NO cows are raised on a farm..  Pavulon   Aug-22-09 02:21 PM   #57 
                       - An abattoir is never a pleasant place  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-23-09 02:31 AM   #153 
              - You don't even need all that shit.  arcadian   Aug-22-09 12:48 AM   #43 
                 - You must not know much about Japan and her people n/t  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-22-09 09:32 AM   #50 
                 - Know enough to get under their skin.  arcadian   Aug-22-09 11:42 AM   #52 
                    - Outside agitation & astroturfing will pull them together even tighter behind the whalers  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-22-09 11:55 AM   #53 
                       - See  tj2001   Aug-22-09 12:13 PM   #55 
                       - So that means they are already agitated.  arcadian   Aug-22-09 04:24 PM   #60 
                       - how about the Japanese racism against the highly intelligent whale race?  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:12 PM   #108 
                       - You choose your terms poorly  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-23-09 02:35 AM   #155 
                       - Arguably more advanced than humans. The Japanese gov. knows it, too.  Cetacea   Aug-23-09 02:42 AM   #156 
                       - ...+  Cetacea   Aug-23-09 02:50 AM   #159 
                       - You sound like a Japanese whaler or a spokesperson for their industry  Larkspur   Aug-23-09 12:05 AM   #142 
                          - You need a course in basic reading comprehension  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-23-09 01:25 AM   #150 
                             - You sound like a birther, not me  Larkspur   Aug-23-09 09:05 PM   #173 
                                - Birthers are characterized by blind devotion to a position, regardless of facts  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-23-09 10:20 PM   #174 
                                   - You have a blind devotion to defending the Japanese whalers illegal acts  Larkspur   Aug-24-09 12:14 PM   #180 
                                      - Miore binary thinking...it is possible to oppose whaling and Watson at the same time n/t  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-24-09 02:29 PM   #181 
                 - Psy-ops are less ethical than just sinking the Nisshin Maru.  BreweryYardRat   Aug-22-09 05:33 PM   #68 
                    - I don't think it's less ethical than killing a sentient living creature.  arcadian   Aug-22-09 08:42 PM   #138 
                       - I assume you are a vegetarian at some level  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-23-09 02:32 AM   #154 
                          - But they don't work for the Navy.  Cetacea   Aug-23-09 02:45 AM   #157 
                          - Which whales work for the USN?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-23-09 03:01 AM   #160 
                             - Can't name them individually. Google Navy, dolphins, whales.  Cetacea   Aug-23-09 03:11 AM   #161 
                          - You assumed wrong.  arcadian   Aug-24-09 02:36 PM   #182 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-21-09 10:57 PM   #32 
  - Just saying...  Pavulon   Aug-21-09 11:06 PM   #34 
  - Animal Planet needs to do more programs like "Whale Wars"  harvey007   Aug-22-09 09:14 AM   #47 
  - if I ever hit the lottery  backwoodsbob   Aug-22-09 09:15 AM   #48 
  - Is whaling at this rate going to cause whale extinction?  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 12:07 PM   #54 
  - Not according to the IWC  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-22-09 12:16 PM   #56 
  - What is wrong then?  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 03:17 PM   #58 
     - there is nothing wrong as such i believe  Bodhi BloodWave   Aug-22-09 04:17 PM   #59 
     - yeah, real enlightened of you there, Bodhi  arcadian   Aug-22-09 04:27 PM   #61 
     - +100000  flvegan   Aug-22-09 04:35 PM   #62 
        - + 1,000,000  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:16 PM   #111 
           - +10,000,000 nt  Lorien   Aug-23-09 12:14 AM   #144 
     - They really are eco-terrorists then  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 04:45 PM   #63 
     - And I donate to Sea Shepherd every year, so that must make me a eco-terrorist sympathizer  Larkspur   Aug-23-09 12:09 AM   #143 
     - Scientific research? Selling off their (large) brains for sushi?  Cetacea   Aug-23-09 02:46 AM   #158 
     - No...they are not eco-terrorists...they have the right to defend the whales:  Subdivisions   Aug-23-09 11:59 AM   #171 
     - I love when people parrot right wing memes.  LeftyMom   Aug-23-09 10:55 PM   #178 
     - It is not quick. It takes 20-25 agonizing minutes to kill a whale. n/t  onestepforward   Aug-22-09 04:50 PM   #64 
     - I don't believe there is a better way  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 05:03 PM   #65 
     - "as quickly and efficiently as possible"---chasing whales with modern ships & blowing them up with  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:16 PM   #109 
     - So was this video fast and efficient enough for you?  Shell Beau   Aug-22-09 07:35 PM   #123 
     - There is no responsible way to hunt whales...  S_E_Fudd   Aug-22-09 05:07 PM   #66 
     - People eat the whale meat  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 05:24 PM   #67 
     - Whale meat is a boutique food...wholly unnecessary for nutrition...  S_E_Fudd   Aug-22-09 05:36 PM   #69 
     - So you only eat and wear the bare minimum?  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 06:00 PM   #71 
        - Ahh...the tried and true tactic of moving the focus...  S_E_Fudd   Aug-22-09 06:11 PM   #73 
           - Except it is neither transient or ephemeral  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 06:26 PM   #76 
           - I can only come to the conclusion you are arguing for arguments sake...  S_E_Fudd   Aug-22-09 06:30 PM   #78 
              - I support the whalers and the seal hunters  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 06:45 PM   #88 
                 - Your profile says you hunt and fish.  flvegan   Aug-22-09 07:17 PM   #112 
                    - None just for the antlers  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 07:31 PM   #121 
                       - So you'd call yourself an ethical (or whatever) hunter, right?  flvegan   Aug-22-09 07:39 PM   #127 
                          - I don't "hunt to feed yourself"  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 07:50 PM   #129 
                             - Thanks for your straightforward answer.  flvegan   Aug-22-09 07:52 PM   #131 
                                - I guess I have nothing left to say to you  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 08:09 PM   #133 
           - Rennet (which is in many cheeses) is made from calf stomach  XemaSab   Aug-22-09 06:50 PM   #90 
              - Never claimed it was...  S_E_Fudd   Aug-22-09 06:59 PM   #97 
              - You're not a farm type, obviously.  boppers   Aug-23-09 12:38 AM   #147 
     - harvesting cotton is akin  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 05:43 PM   #70 
        - Harvesting cotton is akin to harvesting seals  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 06:04 PM   #72 
           - Ummm bullshit  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 06:13 PM   #74 
           - It is exactly the same  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 06:29 PM   #77 
              - Are you serious?  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 06:31 PM   #79 
              - Doesn't matter to me  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 06:37 PM   #82 
                 - Good for you.  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 06:40 PM   #84 
                    - I watched whale wars  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 06:44 PM   #87 
                    - why don't you have someone try it on you and get back to us on that, OK?  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:18 PM   #113 
                    - I don't think I'd mind being shot in the head with a cannon  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 07:22 PM   #117 
                       - and you think those harpoons always hit the whales right in the "painless" head? Yeah, right.  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:33 PM   #122 
                    - What more could they do??? Um..... Not kill it.  Shell Beau   Aug-22-09 07:39 PM   #126 
                    - It was over with MUCH FASTER than many animals die in the wild  XemaSab   Aug-22-09 06:53 PM   #91 
                       - Yeah.  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 06:57 PM   #94 
                       - Oh now stop  flvegan   Aug-22-09 07:02 PM   #99 
                       - Humans are natural predators. nt  ZombieHorde   Aug-23-09 10:48 PM   #177 
                       - Actually that is natural selection. Does not make the behavior ethical, but it is natural selection,  ZombieHorde   Aug-23-09 10:48 PM   #176 
                       - I saw a fox kill a gopher before  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 06:59 PM   #96 
                       - Wait... What?  Shell Beau   Aug-22-09 07:41 PM   #128 
                       - That fawn did not have a chance  XemaSab   Aug-22-09 07:50 PM   #130 
                          - All animals have somewhat of a chance against their predators.  Shell Beau   Aug-22-09 08:07 PM   #132 
                          - Natural selection.  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 08:24 PM   #134 
                          - Zema.  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 08:30 PM   #136 
                             - I'm a little short on pit bulls right now  XemaSab   Aug-22-09 08:35 PM   #137 
                       - But they don't have more nerves going to more brain cells than even humans do...  Cetacea   Aug-23-09 03:20 AM   #162 
              - Right, let's do everything like it was done in the past.  Chef Eric   Aug-22-09 07:38 PM   #124 
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                          - Sorry.  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 07:06 PM   #101 
                             - Obviously one is a plant and one is an animal  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 07:20 PM   #115 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-22-09 07:30 PM   #120 
                                   - Fancy doesn't make it not food  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 07:39 PM   #125 
                                   - bullshit.  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 08:29 PM   #135 
                                   - Just because it is a delicacy doesn't mean.....  Taitertots   Aug-22-09 08:42 PM   #139 
                          - +1  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:21 PM   #116 
                 - Is there isinglass in your wine?  XemaSab   Aug-22-09 06:55 PM   #92 
                    - xema. I really respect you  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 07:01 PM   #98 
                       - I know the difference between harvesting cotton and slaughtering a whale.  XemaSab   Aug-22-09 07:07 PM   #104 
                          - and you know what?  Texasgal   Aug-22-09 07:10 PM   #107 
                          - "ANY ANIMAL"?  boppers   Aug-23-09 12:51 AM   #148 
                             - Any animals except the ones they are inconvenienced by  Taitertots   Aug-23-09 01:13 AM   #149 
                                - I find it tends to vary.  boppers   Aug-23-09 01:33 AM   #152 
                          - Yes there is...  S_E_Fudd   Aug-22-09 07:23 PM   #118 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-22-09 07:19 PM   #114 
     - "there is no responsible way to make fur coats."  boppers   Aug-23-09 12:33 AM   #146 
        - I am perfectly happy to have fur companies...  S_E_Fudd   Aug-23-09 07:47 AM   #169 
           - Having seen animals die naturally in the wild  Taitertots   Aug-23-09 12:15 PM   #172 
           - I've looked. I know more than most people complaining about it.  boppers   Aug-24-09 03:00 AM   #179 
     - Every year the Japanese claim to harvest between 1/2 and 1/2 of a percent  XemaSab   Aug-22-09 06:41 PM   #85 
        - "Harvest" is an interesting word. n/t  flvegan   Aug-22-09 07:06 PM   #102 
        - flvegan, don't fear the reaper.  XemaSab   Aug-22-09 07:09 PM   #106 
        - Kind of like soldiers "engaging" the enemy  wtmusic   Aug-22-09 07:16 PM   #110 
           - same as "collateral damage" where "slaughter" = "research" of whales  wordpix   Aug-22-09 07:23 PM   #119 
        - Yeah and they also claim to do it for research  spoony   Aug-22-09 09:57 PM   #140 
  - I'm just as worried about the mile long Pollock nets that are hurting the salmon runs  XOKCowboy   Aug-22-09 06:31 PM   #80 
  - The crew of Sea Shepherd are amongst my many heroes.  Union Yes   Aug-23-09 12:28 AM   #145 
  - A peaceful and classic video: Carl Sagan on whale communication.  onestepforward   Aug-23-09 04:01 AM   #164 
  - Watching that whale die  AllenVanAllen   Aug-23-09 04:08 AM   #165 
  - Are we talking strictly about cruelty here? No endangerment issues?  DaveinJapan   Aug-23-09 04:10 AM   #166 
  - Some estimates put the whale population at 1% of it's former population.  Cetacea   Aug-23-09 05:55 AM   #167 
  - THANK YOU AGAIN  life long demo   Aug-23-09 07:00 AM   #168 
  - Forgot to post a Youtube video  life long demo   Aug-23-09 07:58 AM   #170 
  - Just so everyone knows, there are at least 10 countries which hunt whales.  ZombieHorde   Aug-23-09 10:41 PM   #175 
 

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