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dropkickpa

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Fri Aug-21-09 02:22 AM
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58. Sad to say, it's not an insult, but the truh in a lot of cases

American universities are training shit engineers. My dad works in rail transit planning, has for 30 years, and he's seen the result of US universities engineering programs. Most of them are diploma mills in traffic engineering, not training people for what his field needs at all, so that they NEED to hire from outside of the country to get people who actually know what the fuck they are doing. My dad has worked all over the world, so he's seen the caliber of engineers from all corners of the globe first hand.

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- Like you, I live in Arizona	Hello_Kitty	Aug-20-09 04:19 PM	#1
- Thanks. So they rely on foreign engineers...	AzNick	Aug-20-09 04:34 PM	#6
- Let me get this straight	Hello_Kitty	Aug-20-09 04:38 PM	#9
- No I do not.	AzNick	Aug-20-09 04:39 PM	#11
- That, and a lot of them want to have workers they can pay less and abuse	Hello_Kitty	Aug-20-09 04:44 PM	#15
- Dude I live in Tucson, and the level of idiocy is shocking	Indenturedebtor	Aug-21-09 02:00 AM	#55
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- I don't think that	PSzymeczek	Aug-21-09 01:26 AM	#53
- Bill Gates has gotten a shitload of tax breaks.	Hello_Kitty	Aug-21-09 02:03 AM	#56
- The last fifty years have witnessed the rapid decline of the American worker.	Romulox	Aug-20-09 04:21 PM	#2
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- The success of America has depended on Americans making enough to buy stuff.	Hello_Kitty	Aug-20-09 05:30 PM	#26
- The reason that wages were high in the US was that labor was scarce relative to natural resources	FarCenter	Aug-20-09 05:52 PM	#27
- We celebrate the stoopid.	lapfog_1	Aug-20-09 04:26 PM	#3
- I don't believe that Americans are dumber	AzNick	Aug-20-09 04:51 PM	#18
- In other words, there's profits for multinationals to exploit pay differentials.	Romulox	Aug-20-09 04:56 PM	#20
- What statistics are you citing?	Cessna Invesco Palin	Aug-20-09 10:20 PM	#36
- What country is the best for STEM graduates to go to?	FarCenter	Aug-20-09 04:27 PM	#4
- Less and less the US, that is my point	AzNick	Aug-20-09 04:41 PM	#14
- Actually, I should have also framed the question in terms of metro areas.	FarCenter	Aug-20-09 04:58 PM	#21
- Unfortunately, it's no longer just the Republicans who say "Good, less immigrants!"	pampango	Aug-20-09 04:31 PM	#5
- But it's totally okay to insult American engineers like the OP did, right?	Hello_Kitty	Aug-20-09 04:35 PM	#7
- When did I do that, seriously?	AzNick	Aug-20-09 04:38 PM	#10
- Jesus Christ. You not only did it in the OP, you did it in your other response to me.	Hello_Kitty	Aug-20-09 04:40 PM	#12
- Yes but even... there would still be a need for foreign engineers	AzNick	Aug-20-09 04:50 PM	#17
- Domestic. And yes I realize it has parts made in other countries.	Hello_Kitty	Aug-20-09 05:03 PM	#23
- "It's just that this country does not train enough engineers (or should I say GOOD engineers..."	Romulox	Aug-20-09 04:40 PM	#13
- I stand by this statement	AzNick	Aug-20-09 04:48 PM	#16
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- You don't seem to understand...	Deja Q	Aug-20-09 10:26 PM	#40
- Quite. I've read this ENTIRE thread with interest and I have but one conclusion:	Deja Q	Aug-20-09 10:09 PM	#31
- Sad to say, it's not an insult, but the truh in a lot of cases	dropkickpa	Aug-21-09 02:22 AM	#58
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- "It's just that this country does not train enough engineers (or should I say GOOD engineers "	OhioChick	Aug-20-09 06:10 PM	#28
- Get over it!!! Maybe I criticized the education system?!?	AzNick	Aug-20-09 10:02 PM	#30
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- I've never worked at a tech company that was unwilling to hire recent grads...	Cessna Invesco Palin	Aug-20-09 10:24 PM	#39
- How many companies might that be? Care to list names? Ever read job ads too?	Deja Q	Aug-20-09 10:30 PM	#42
- No I will not be your monkey.	Cessna Invesco Palin	Aug-20-09 10:51 PM	#49
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- ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##	DU GrovelBot	Aug-20-09 10:11 PM	#33
- Until you started insulting people, I was prepared to take you at face value.	Deja Q	Aug-20-09 10:12 PM	#34
- A non-American on the moon would have still been an accomplishment for humanity	RB TexLa	Aug-20-09 10:23 PM	#38
- Listen buddy, it works both ways. People should work on that too.	Deja Q	Aug-20-09 10:27 PM	#41
- Thank you.	Hello_Kitty	Aug-20-09 10:40 PM	#43
- I don't think you know what "Brain Drain" means.	VenusRising	Aug-20-09 10:41 PM	#44
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- The fallacies and insinuations in your post are nearly the perfect example of why we are so screwed.	Greyhound	Aug-21-09 02:40 AM	#59
- The entire 'Education' issue is a red herring	mule_train	Aug-21-09 10:42 AM	#60
- A glimpse at the brilliance rampant in Arizona ... The Daily Show visits Arizona State	Arugula Latte	Aug-21-09 10:50 AM	#61

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