Romulox
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Thu Aug-20-09 04:21 PM
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| 2. The last fifty years have witnessed the rapid decline of the American worker. |
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Your "technological golden age" was really string after string of war abroad and the ascendance of the monied class at home.
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| -Bye-Bye Brain Drain, Bye-Bye technological leadership. |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 04:07 PM |
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Like you, I live in Arizona |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 04:19 PM |
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Thanks. So they rely on foreign engineers... |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 04:34 PM |
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Let me get this straight |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 04:38 PM |
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No I do not. |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 04:39 PM |
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That, and a lot of them want to have workers they can pay less and abuse |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 04:44 PM |
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Dude I live in Tucson, and the level of idiocy is shocking |
Indenturedebtor |
Aug-21-09 02:00 AM |
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So lets give more tax breaks to corporations! |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-21-09 02:05 AM |
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Yep - our local solution to our failing economy is... TAX BREAKS |
Indenturedebtor |
Aug-22-09 11:55 AM |
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I don't think that |
PSzymeczek |
Aug-21-09 01:26 AM |
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Bill Gates has gotten a shitload of tax breaks. |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-21-09 02:03 AM |
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The last fifty years have witnessed the rapid decline of the American worker. |
Romulox |
Aug-20-09 04:21 PM |
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There never really wa an American "technological golden age" |
FarCenter |
Aug-20-09 05:19 PM |
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The success of America has depended on Americans making enough to buy stuff. |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 05:30 PM |
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The reason that wages were high in the US was that labor was scarce relative to natural resources |
FarCenter |
Aug-20-09 05:52 PM |
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We celebrate the stoopid. |
lapfog_1 |
Aug-20-09 04:26 PM |
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I don't believe that Americans are dumber |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 04:51 PM |
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In other words, there's profits for multinationals to exploit pay differentials. |
Romulox |
Aug-20-09 04:56 PM |
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What statistics are you citing? |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Aug-20-09 10:20 PM |
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What country is the best for STEM graduates to go to? |
FarCenter |
Aug-20-09 04:27 PM |
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Less and less the US, that is my point |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 04:41 PM |
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Actually, I should have also framed the question in terms of metro areas. |
FarCenter |
Aug-20-09 04:58 PM |
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Unfortunately, it's no longer just the Republicans who say "Good, less immigrants!" |
pampango |
Aug-20-09 04:31 PM |
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But it's totally okay to insult American engineers like the OP did, right? |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 04:35 PM |
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When did I do that, seriously? |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 04:38 PM |
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Jesus Christ. You not only did it in the OP, you did it in your other response to me. |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 04:40 PM |
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Yes but even... there would still be a need for foreign engineers |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 04:50 PM |
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Domestic. And yes I realize it has parts made in other countries. |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 05:03 PM |
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"It's just that this country does not train enough engineers (or should I say GOOD engineers..." |
Romulox |
Aug-20-09 04:40 PM |
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I stand by this statement |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 04:48 PM |
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There's little incentive to train new engineers, or for students to choose such a path |
Romulox |
Aug-20-09 04:51 PM |
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One thing we got going for us is that the cheap labor lobby has some suck-tastic talking points |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 05:07 PM |
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You don't seem to understand... |
Deja Q |
Aug-20-09 10:26 PM |
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Quite. I've read this ENTIRE thread with interest and I have but one conclusion: |
Deja Q |
Aug-20-09 10:09 PM |
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Sad to say, it's not an insult, but the truh in a lot of cases |
dropkickpa |
Aug-21-09 02:22 AM |
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LOL. I noticed you bailed on the last immigration thread. |
Romulox |
Aug-20-09 04:37 PM |
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Our immigration system is so broken |
treestar |
Aug-20-09 05:00 PM |
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"It's just that this country does not train enough engineers (or should I say GOOD engineers " |
OhioChick |
Aug-20-09 06:10 PM |
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Get over it!!! Maybe I criticized the education system?!? |
AzNick |
Aug-20-09 10:02 PM |
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WTF are you talking about with this "3 times here" shit? |
OhioChick |
Aug-20-09 10:45 PM |
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ROFLMAO |
ChromeFoundry |
Aug-20-09 10:48 PM |
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Yes, I wish we trained more people to come here with our enthusiast. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Aug-21-09 12:19 AM |
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It's really sad how many people haven't figured that out yet... |
Deja Q |
Aug-20-09 10:11 PM |
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Sometimes, |
OhioChick |
Aug-20-09 10:48 PM |
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Recent college grads are cheap, too. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Aug-20-09 10:13 PM |
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Companies hiring want x years of experience. For new grads, x=0 and therefore unemployable. |
Deja Q |
Aug-20-09 10:22 PM |
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I've never worked at a tech company that was unwilling to hire recent grads... |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Aug-20-09 10:24 PM |
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How many companies might that be? Care to list names? Ever read job ads too? |
Deja Q |
Aug-20-09 10:30 PM |
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No I will not be your monkey. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Aug-20-09 10:51 PM |
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Is that you, Harris Miller? - nt |
mule_train |
Aug-20-09 07:49 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-20-09 10:11 PM |
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Until you started insulting people, I was prepared to take you at face value. |
Deja Q |
Aug-20-09 10:12 PM |
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A non-American on the moon would have still been an accomplishment for humanity |
RB TexLa |
Aug-20-09 10:23 PM |
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Listen buddy, it works both ways. People should work on that too. |
Deja Q |
Aug-20-09 10:27 PM |
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Thank you. |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-20-09 10:40 PM |
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I don't think you know what "Brain Drain" means. |
VenusRising |
Aug-20-09 10:41 PM |
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The only reason we had the technological lead in the 50's and 60's in the first place... |
tjwash |
Aug-20-09 10:44 PM |
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that's true, but for WWII, the telephone (Bell), Electricity (Edison) auto industry (Ford) avaiation |
mule_train |
Aug-21-09 11:31 AM |
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what is your healthcare coverage like in the u.s....? |
dysfunctional press |
Aug-20-09 11:03 PM |
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One could read your post as blaming the Dems for pointing out how bad our healthcare is |
HughMoran |
Aug-20-09 11:32 PM |
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Who is Herbert Von Braun? Is he related to Wernher? |
Morning Dew |
Aug-21-09 01:46 AM |
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The fallacies and insinuations in your post are nearly the perfect example of why we are so screwed. |
Greyhound |
Aug-21-09 02:40 AM |
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The entire 'Education' issue is a red herring |
mule_train |
Aug-21-09 10:42 AM |
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A glimpse at the brilliance rampant in Arizona ... The Daily Show visits Arizona State |
Arugula Latte |
Aug-21-09 10:50 AM |
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