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131. The generational arrogance was you..
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 12:38 PM by Peacetrain
"Your generation did a bang up job at accelerating corporate influence and holding on to any position of power with a death grip while potentially being more antagonistic to the younger generations than any previously.

Yeah, my generation (Y) doesn't have the mass movements that your gen did, but you happened to make the world a far more authoritarian place after you sold out and abandoned the peace and love for money and power. So I really can't blame the X and Y gen for being so complacent, the game was rigged by you guys when we started."

If you can't handle the heat of a defense, than you are in the wrong game with me. No generation can do everything right or everything wrong.. Each one has its own agenda to deal with.

The game was not "rigged" by us.. You get to step up to the plate with a different set of needs and issues than we had. But guess what.. you are not alone.. we are still here with you..

Whether you like it or not.. we are all in this together pal..
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  -Okay, let me get this straight...we're fighting about WOODSTOCK on DU? Atman  Aug-17-09 09:32 PM   #0 
  - yeah, enough of Woodstock already nt  crazy_vanilla   Aug-17-09 09:34 PM   #1 
  - I think we're all stressed out.  madmax   Aug-17-09 09:35 PM   #2 
  - if you lived thru the 60's you get woodstock...there's really no way to convey it  spanone   Aug-17-09 09:35 PM   #3 
  - That's right.  Blue_In_AK   Aug-17-09 09:37 PM   #4 
  - It's all context -  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-17-09 09:41 PM   #12 
  - True.  Joanne98   Aug-18-09 07:52 AM   #92 
  - And so--the stupidity continues in yet another thread. I'm Switzerland here.  blondeatlast   Aug-17-09 09:37 PM   #5 
  - Switzerland wouldn't have interjected.  Atman   Aug-17-09 09:38 PM   #8 
  - That's today's DU for you (n/t)  Catch22Dem   Aug-17-09 09:38 PM   #6 
  - These "Woodstock was the best thing ever" threads are fucking priceless.  Avalux   Aug-17-09 09:38 PM   #7 
  - I didn't say Woodstock was "the best thing ever."  Atman   Aug-17-09 09:39 PM   #9 
     - LOL!  Avalux   Aug-17-09 09:41 PM   #13 
  - Atman? Yo, Atman?  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-17-09 09:40 PM   #10 
  - Absolutely, literally, laughing out loud.  Atman   Aug-17-09 09:41 PM   #11 
  - Figured you'd get it -  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-17-09 09:43 PM   #15 
  - What TL Said, Baby !!!  WillyT   Aug-17-09 09:42 PM   #14 
  - Bravo. (Seconded.)  TahitiNut   Aug-17-09 09:50 PM   #19 
  - Really? You seriously support and respect how Atman communicated  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 06:35 AM   #62 
     - My "message to youth?" I'm not the Pope, I made a freaking message board post!  Atman   Aug-18-09 07:11 AM   #69 
     - "Hey old dudes, Woodstock sucked ass!"  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 07:29 AM   #74 
     - Gee, that's a tough question -  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-18-09 10:47 AM   #112 
  - Thanks, Atman....K and R  femrap   Aug-17-09 09:45 PM   #16 
  - You seriously support and respect how Atman communicated and his message to youth?  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 06:44 AM   #64 
     - Atman spoke the Truth....  femrap   Aug-18-09 10:25 AM   #105 
  - The kids are home from school and they're bored  Lorien   Aug-17-09 09:48 PM   #17 
  - Even -- or especially -- for those too young to be there  omega minimo   Aug-17-09 09:48 PM   #18 
  - i never attended outdoor concerts during those years  madrchsod   Aug-17-09 09:50 PM   #20 
  - so what?  HughMoran   Aug-17-09 09:55 PM   #22 
  - The seeming inability of those who weren't alive to at least let those who were reminisce  HughMoran   Aug-17-09 09:54 PM   #21 
  - recommend ... because this fire needs more gasoline!  TexasObserver   Aug-17-09 09:57 PM   #23 
  - We didn't start the was always burnin' since...oh shoot me NOW!  Atman   Aug-17-09 09:59 PM   #24 
     - Yeah, and, of course, was a rip off of what song?  TexasObserver   Aug-17-09 10:05 PM   #27 
  - The guy who owns The Olive Garden taught his Israeli pitbull to smoke at Woodstock. n/t  Ian David   Aug-17-09 10:01 PM   #25 
  - bah hahhah. you title alone, makes me giggle. didnt read your post cause....  seabeyond   Aug-17-09 10:02 PM   #26 
  - That's the many of you think it "was a concert."  Atman   Aug-17-09 10:07 PM   #28 
     - Those things exist precicely BECAUSE of Woodstock.  ContinentalOp   Aug-17-09 10:12 PM   #31 
     - Which brings us back to...  Atman   Aug-17-09 10:14 PM   #35 
     - The kids depend on them, though and expect them to be there. And don't notice the omnipresent logos  omega minimo   Aug-18-09 12:21 AM   #56 
        - "the kids" "depend" "don't notice...anything odd"  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 06:43 AM   #63 
           - "paranoid" "mistaken" "narcissistic" "illiterate" "paranoid" "misinterpreting"  omega minimo   Aug-18-09 11:42 AM   #121 
              - It's fine; it's completely hypocritical of you, naturally, but it is fine.  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 12:03 PM   #122 
                 - Before you get yourself in trouble  omega minimo   Aug-18-09 12:11 PM   #124 
                    - As succinct as ever, OM.  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 12:20 PM   #126 
                       - LOL  omega minimo   Aug-18-09 12:31 PM   #130 
                          - Well, if you hadn't tried to contextualize my thread to fit your needs, your disappointment  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 12:39 PM   #132 
                             - I asked you questions based on the perspective you shared  omega minimo   Aug-18-09 01:16 PM   #135 
     - And what happened afterward?  Pab Sungenis   Aug-17-09 10:14 PM   #34 
     - Get off my lawn.  Atman   Aug-17-09 10:19 PM   #37 
     - I have none.  Pab Sungenis   Aug-17-09 10:37 PM   #38 
        - It changed people,  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-17-09 10:55 PM   #41 
        - Let's put it a different way...OUR PRESIDENTS AND LEADERS WERE BEING SHOT  Atman   Aug-17-09 11:25 PM   #43 
           - So were our young men -  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-17-09 11:29 PM   #45 
        - And you can prove n/t  Cetacea   Aug-18-09 04:06 AM   #59 
        - Well,  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-18-09 10:45 AM   #111 
        - In part just because of what the generations since have taken for granted.  truedelphi   Aug-18-09 07:15 PM   #148 
        - Woodstock changed Snoopy  robdogbucky   Aug-18-09 11:03 AM   #116 
     - Oh yes it did change the you have a draft? No. Do the young adults gather anywhere to  MichiganVote   Aug-18-09 10:28 AM   #106 
     - Well said. The battle never ends, we just came closer to winning between 1969-1980.  TexasObserver   Aug-18-09 10:57 AM   #114 
        - As they say...freedom tain't free. They want more? Go get it. They won't give it em'. Thanks!  MichiganVote   Aug-18-09 06:02 PM   #142 
           - "Takin' it to the streets" has become "txt ur bff abot it"  TexasObserver   Aug-18-09 11:56 PM   #152 
              - Oh God you ain't kiddin' :)  MichiganVote   Aug-19-09 10:49 AM   #155 
                 - One of my sons teaches English at a nearby University.  TexasObserver   Aug-19-09 01:26 PM   #158 
                    - You bet. Plus in my experience in working in the schools, writing is just not taught well anymore  MichiganVote   Aug-19-09 07:56 PM   #160 
     - We ended the draft  DoBotherMe   Aug-18-09 03:13 PM   #140 
     - well... i was a teen in 70's in calif. so not like i had all that shit you are talking about.  seabeyond   Aug-17-09 10:55 PM   #40 
  - Here Here! Viva Le Geezeritude!  Stinky The Clown   Aug-17-09 10:10 PM   #29 
  - You got it, man!  Atman   Aug-17-09 10:11 PM   #30 
  - I was a little kid during Woodstock and even I get it  carlyhippy   Aug-17-09 10:12 PM   #32 
  - I love it when that happens  WolverineDG   Aug-18-09 07:27 AM   #72 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-17-09 10:12 PM   #33 
  - FUCK YOU YOU WERENT THERE MAN!! YOU..... oh wait.  Political Heretic   Aug-18-09 03:59 AM   #58 
     - LOL!  Atman   Aug-18-09 06:59 AM   #66 
     - ......  trusty elf   Aug-18-09 07:56 AM   #93 
        - BEST POST OF THE YEAR!  Atman   Aug-18-09 07:58 AM   #94 
        - Bzzz...klik...peace 'n love  mogster   Aug-18-09 08:07 AM   #97 
        - Love it!  MichiganVote   Aug-18-09 10:03 AM   #102 
  - I understand, Atman  MorningGlow   Aug-17-09 10:16 PM   #36 
  - I was 12 at the time...  jimlup   Aug-18-09 07:29 AM   #75 
     - They're still doing it, too  MorningGlow   Aug-18-09 10:17 AM   #104 
        - Yes, I think the corporate media holds sway in ways we don't realize  jimlup   Aug-18-09 10:41 AM   #109 
  - Here's The Take From Somebody At 420 Magazine...  WillyT   Aug-17-09 10:39 PM   #39 
  - Great piece. Thanks for posting it. n/t  Cetacea   Aug-18-09 04:09 AM   #60 
  - What a nice article  Chemisse   Aug-18-09 06:23 PM   #144 
  - I was 12, but old enough to remember the times  Skittles   Aug-17-09 11:19 PM   #42 
  - It's weird how you can't defend Woodstock without taking shots at the whippersnappers  fishwax   Aug-17-09 11:29 PM   #44 
  - We're not defending it -  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-17-09 11:30 PM   #46 
     - It's weird how difficult it seems to be to do so without bashing the whippersnappers  fishwax   Aug-17-09 11:34 PM   #47 
        - Really?  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-17-09 11:39 PM   #49 
           - plenty of bashing going on  fishwax   Aug-17-09 11:48 PM   #50 
              - I wish you could show me some examples,  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-17-09 11:58 PM   #52 
                 - like the OP, for instance  fishwax   Aug-18-09 12:08 AM   #53 
                    - Did you see the OP as "bashing"?  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-18-09 12:21 AM   #55 
                       - Here's the "bashy" parts clipped out for ya:  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 06:50 AM   #65 
                          - Thank You  NashVegas   Aug-18-09 07:51 AM   #90 
                          - Beautiful -  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-18-09 10:44 AM   #110 
                          - Now, can you please show me  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-18-09 10:40 AM   #108 
                             - The debate is, and always has been, the relevance and legacy of woodstock.  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 11:08 AM   #117 
                                - I disagree -  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-18-09 11:12 AM   #119 
                                   - In the context of your perceptions, I can add nothing.  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 11:19 AM   #120 
  - I was ten at the time and I understand it,  kster   Aug-17-09 11:37 PM   #48 
  - I am switzerland.  Political Heretic   Aug-17-09 11:53 PM   #51 
  - LOL !!!  WillyT   Aug-18-09 12:20 AM   #54 
  - What could there be to argue? Woodstock is the greatest event in the history of Rock  TheKentuckian   Aug-18-09 12:23 AM   #57 
  - Hahahaha! Happy to kick and rec your post.  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 06:33 AM   #61 
  - It's what I lived this long for!  Atman   Aug-18-09 07:05 AM   #67 
     - Hey, man, if you're diggin it, i'm diggin it.  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 07:27 AM   #73 
        - Okay, so you DO get Woodstock!  Atman   Aug-18-09 07:48 AM   #86 
           - I'll stay off the lawn, but don't mind if you share the grass.  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 08:20 AM   #99 
           - I sent the phrase into translation party  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 11:10 AM   #118 
  - Ahem  AllentownJake   Aug-18-09 07:09 AM   #68 
  - I don't deny that.  Atman   Aug-18-09 07:13 AM   #70 
  - We voted in a pretty good block for Obama  AllentownJake   Aug-18-09 07:23 AM   #71 
  - Yes, you got that right!  ShortnFiery   Aug-18-09 07:37 AM   #81 
     - Every Generation sells out  AllentownJake   Aug-18-09 07:39 AM   #82 
        - That doesn't mean that we should shirk OUR responsibility. It's time to work together ...  ShortnFiery   Aug-18-09 07:49 AM   #89 
        - Yes they did  DoBotherMe   Aug-18-09 06:28 PM   #145 
  - Righteous rant!  City of Mills   Aug-18-09 07:30 AM   #76 
  - IMO, quoting Clint Eastwood's character on the flick "Gran Torino" is bordering on LAME..  ShortnFiery   Aug-18-09 07:32 AM   #77 
  - Uh, I've never seen "Gran Torino" so I have no idea what you're talking about.  Atman   Aug-18-09 07:36 AM   #79 
     - It's good to "keep up" even though we are getting older. We sold out and Woodstock is  ShortnFiery   Aug-18-09 07:45 AM   #84 
        - "It started with the "Reagan Democrats.""  redqueen   Aug-18-09 10:12 AM   #103 
  - I think some people are trying to work out some parental issues.  Ganja Ninja   Aug-18-09 07:34 AM   #78 
  - Possibly  AllentownJake   Aug-18-09 07:36 AM   #80 
  - I have a fine relationship with my parents  RadiationTherapy   Aug-18-09 11:02 AM   #115 
  - People whose sole pleasure in life is hating will leap at the chance to hate anything at all.  QC   Aug-18-09 07:41 AM   #83 
  - Congrats, you completely figured us out.  ShortnFiery   Aug-18-09 07:47 AM   #85 
     - Well, I have managed to figure some of you out.  QC   Aug-18-09 07:52 AM   #91 
        - Yes, because we know anyone who disagrees with such LOGIC is often deemed crazy or un-american.  ShortnFiery   Aug-18-09 07:59 AM   #95 
           - Yes, Stella, that's it. Now run along, Stanley's looking for you. n/t  QC   Aug-18-09 08:13 AM   #98 
  - You did sell out, actually  Prism   Aug-18-09 07:48 AM   #87 
  - If something magical happened at Woodstock, what about Altamont?  AngryAmish   Aug-18-09 07:48 AM   #88 
  - Ouch, that might leave a mark. nt  Bonobo   Aug-18-09 08:06 AM   #96 
  - A few things.  ozone_man   Aug-18-09 01:11 PM   #134 
  - My take on how we boomers "sold out" to corporate whores. When I was  madmom   Aug-18-09 09:35 AM   #100 
  - Also  Mixopterus   Aug-18-09 10:02 AM   #101 
     - Yeah Yeah Yeah what ever. More antagonistic to younger generations huh..  madmom   Aug-18-09 10:29 AM   #107 
     - Right  Mixopterus   Aug-18-09 12:19 PM   #125 
        - So in other words what you are saying is the boomers should shut up and die so the poor little  madmom   Aug-18-09 01:23 PM   #136 
           - This is good stuff  Mixopterus   Aug-19-09 01:35 AM   #154 
              - Yeah like I said, you just want us to move out of the way so you can take over our  madmom   Aug-20-09 10:44 AM   #161 
     - What planet of ignorance did you bloom on?  Peacetrain   Aug-18-09 10:56 AM   #113 
     - Ok...  Mixopterus   Aug-18-09 12:27 PM   #128 
        - The generational arrogance was you..  Peacetrain   Aug-18-09 12:37 PM   #131 
     - Disinformation, much?  omega minimo   Aug-18-09 08:10 PM   #150 
  - Generations fighting is all BS. Divide and conquer all of us, make us all fight.  Jennicut   Aug-18-09 12:06 PM   #123 
  - You are right  Mixopterus   Aug-18-09 12:21 PM   #127 
     - Some created it, some did not. I wait to criticize because who knows what Gen X will do.  Jennicut   Aug-18-09 12:28 PM   #129 
  - If Woodstock doesn't shape up, I won't vote for it in the 2012 primaries.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-18-09 12:40 PM   #133 
  - "Never trust anybody under 30."  edbermac   Aug-18-09 01:24 PM   #137 
  - my dad was in the military during woodstock  citizen snips   Aug-18-09 01:25 PM   #138 
  - So do you even know how many men and women were in the military at that time?  MichiganVote   Aug-18-09 06:09 PM   #143 
  - If people QUIT joining the military we'd all be a lot better off  Generic Other   Aug-18-09 06:50 PM   #147 
     - I don't think the shelf life on this one is very good.  MichiganVote   Aug-18-09 08:01 PM   #149 
        - now that was a low blow  citizen snips   Aug-19-09 11:56 AM   #157 
  - Apparently the kids need a distraction from all the health care angst.  MissMarple   Aug-18-09 02:02 PM   #139 
  - Truer words were never spoken!  Fire1   Aug-18-09 04:57 PM   #141 
  - Monterey Pop was way better. So was any Teen Fair or Battle of the Bands in the San Jose circa 1966.  Dr Fate   Aug-18-09 06:29 PM   #146 
  - Fuckin' A!  the blues   Aug-18-09 08:28 PM   #151 
  - We're fighting over anything we can sink our teeth into.  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-19-09 12:11 AM   #153 
  - The only woodstock I think made a lasting impression, is the kent state woodstocks.  Gman2   Aug-19-09 11:09 AM   #156 
  - Hey man, is that FREEDOM ROCK? Yeah, man! Well turn it up, man!  rd_kent   Aug-19-09 01:41 PM   #159 

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