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Thu Apr-12-07 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #82 |
| 84. There is an awful lot of turbulence in the cockpit with the top down |
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The energy to propel that turbulence comes from the car's forward motion through the air.
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| -Would you buy a car with no heat or AC if it meant saving the planet? |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-11-07 10:39 PM |
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No, I'd rather use public transit. |
Boojatta |
Apr-11-07 10:40 PM |
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I already drive a 4-cycle scooter full time |
htuttle |
Apr-11-07 10:40 PM |
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We can do without the AC |
Blue_In_AK |
Apr-11-07 10:40 PM |
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I disagree |
Mojorabbit |
Apr-11-07 10:43 PM |
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I see your point... |
Blue_In_AK |
Apr-11-07 11:21 PM |
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at 40+ the heat will kill you without air conditioning in your car |
JCMach1 |
Apr-12-07 04:44 AM |
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I second that. |
DenaliDemocrat |
Apr-12-07 03:29 PM |
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Your windows will ice up without heat |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Apr-12-07 04:33 PM |
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Not in the Mojave desert in summer... |
politicat |
Apr-12-07 04:02 PM |
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Depends on where you live. |
uppityperson |
Apr-11-07 10:42 PM |
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Yeah, there are many situations where if you don't have heat |
barb162 |
Apr-11-07 11:56 PM |
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HA! I used to have a 1975 VW Bug. They didn't have any a/c, |
napi21 |
Apr-12-07 06:41 AM |
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No |
Nicole |
Apr-11-07 10:44 PM |
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No. I know how it feels to ride in a car with no AC |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-11-07 10:44 PM |
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I live in Cleveland and vacation in Florida - Let me see |
liberal N proud |
Apr-11-07 10:45 PM |
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Mr. Tesha did a controlled experiment last summer... |
Tesha |
Apr-12-07 10:00 AM |
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I suspect that a van may not have the same effect from windows down. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 03:20 PM |
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You may be right, but the Caravan managed... |
Tesha |
Apr-12-07 03:52 PM |
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I find that the noise from having the windows down bothers me |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 04:09 PM |
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I already drive a car with no heat or AC... |
youthere |
Apr-11-07 10:45 PM |
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LOL! I haven't had heat or AC |
HooptieWagon |
Apr-11-07 10:58 PM |
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Notice I said "buy" a car.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-11-07 11:17 PM |
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An electric car |
HooptieWagon |
Apr-11-07 11:27 PM |
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if i could afford one i might consider it. as it is ... ha! i can only dream |
orleans |
Apr-12-07 03:04 AM |
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Absolutely! I almost never use the AC anyway, even in south MS |
Glorfindel |
Apr-11-07 10:46 PM |
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We react to what we know.... |
salin |
Apr-11-07 10:47 PM |
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The cars my parents had in Puerto Rico |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-11-07 10:54 PM |
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Yep, Puerto Rico is hot. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 07:03 AM |
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Gorgeous! |
StarryNite |
Apr-12-07 04:01 PM |
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What's really cool about it.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 05:00 PM |
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heat doesn't use much energy |
app_farmer_rb |
Apr-11-07 10:47 PM |
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Excellent post. And it took how many posts before you said it. |
SteveM |
Apr-12-07 04:20 PM |
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Heat is not optional if you want to see out of your windows |
fiziwig |
Apr-11-07 10:50 PM |
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Not to mention illegal |
Xithras |
Apr-12-07 12:32 AM |
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The heat is free. |
Wilber_Stool |
Apr-11-07 10:50 PM |
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Not if you're driving an electric car |
htuttle |
Apr-11-07 10:59 PM |
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Time for ELECTRICALLY HEATED SEATS then.... NT |
MADem |
Apr-11-07 11:01 PM |
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actually you can put a heat exchanger on the motor and capture |
don954 |
Apr-11-07 11:04 PM |
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Exactly, it's waste heat that's been recovered |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-11-07 11:17 PM |
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n/t |
Salviati |
Apr-12-07 12:06 AM |
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That's a good question for all. I will tell you that I lived |
Quakerfriend |
Apr-11-07 10:52 PM |
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I drive one and have for many years |
blues90 |
Apr-11-07 10:52 PM |
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But it won't save the planet, and we know it. And HEAT is a BYPRODUCT of the gas engine. |
MADem |
Apr-11-07 10:59 PM |
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Questions |
Opposite Reaction |
Apr-11-07 11:01 PM |
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Here you go. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-11-07 11:29 PM |
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Air-cooled VWs had notoriously inefficient heaters |
HooptieWagon |
Apr-11-07 11:42 PM |
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Ain't that the truth n/t |
VTMechEngr |
Apr-12-07 02:53 AM |
#50 |
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We had an air-cooled VW in 70's in Florida... our commute was 20min |
JCMach1 |
Apr-12-07 04:45 AM |
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We had one of those when I was a kid |
gollygee |
Apr-12-07 08:23 AM |
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And those old VWs are gross polluters, valve burners in hot climes. |
SteveM |
Apr-12-07 04:23 PM |
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Where are the answers? |
Opposite Reaction |
Apr-12-07 07:09 PM |
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Here you go again, I pared away all the confusing stuff and left only the money quote. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 07:18 PM |
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Where are the answers? |
Opposite Reaction |
Apr-12-07 07:10 PM |
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Heat |
Thothmes |
Apr-12-07 07:30 AM |
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I have my Hog and ride |
Monkeyman |
Apr-11-07 11:01 PM |
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it was customary to buy a pickup truck around here back in the forties and early fifties |
madokie |
Apr-11-07 11:01 PM |
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No. Not in the Great Plains. |
wienerdoggie |
Apr-11-07 11:02 PM |
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That is a false economy |
don954 |
Apr-11-07 11:02 PM |
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only if everyone else does. |
spacelady |
Apr-11-07 11:03 PM |
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Headlights probably use more power than AC/heat |
HooptieWagon |
Apr-11-07 11:17 PM |
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No way: A.C. consumes much more gas when on. |
SteveM |
Apr-12-07 04:25 PM |
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I need heat. |
JVS |
Apr-11-07 11:44 PM |
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heat i can go without, AC forget about it, last summer the temp got to 118f |
chimpsrsmarter |
Apr-11-07 11:45 PM |
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Anyone On DU Older Than 35??? I Still Use 4/70 AC... |
KharmaTrain |
Apr-11-07 11:50 PM |
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In most of the country, AC is optional. In most of the country, heat is not. |
Xithras |
Apr-12-07 12:44 AM |
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Um- the heat doesn't burn any more energy - it's already there. |
Clark2008 |
Apr-12-07 12:01 AM |
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Correct. EVs use amplifiers. |
Touchdown |
Apr-12-07 10:24 AM |
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The few times a month I drive my car |
crappyjazz |
Apr-12-07 12:03 AM |
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I'd need just enough heat to clear the windows. I don't mind |
alfredo |
Apr-12-07 12:15 AM |
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You are buying Dick Cheney's Frame of the issue |
greenman3610 |
Apr-12-07 12:21 AM |
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I'd dance naked in the street if it would save the planet |
murloc |
Apr-12-07 12:22 AM |
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You must be young. |
George Oilwellian |
Apr-12-07 12:24 AM |
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One upon a time, those WERE options..as was a radio |
SoCalDem |
Apr-12-07 12:31 AM |
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The technology exists for having A/C and heat in an electric car AND save the planet. |
AdHocSolver |
Apr-12-07 02:39 AM |
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There are no heating or cooling devices for EVs that do not use lots of extra power. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 08:37 AM |
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Let's do some numbers.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 06:28 AM |
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I propose we convert our household air conditioners and refrigerators... |
IanDB1 |
Apr-12-07 06:31 AM |
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I own a car with no AC, but heating you need if for nothing else |
Skidmore |
Apr-12-07 06:39 AM |
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Mine doesn't have heat now |
EstimatedProphet |
Apr-12-07 06:42 AM |
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I lived in Houston and my AC went out |
TheFarseer |
Apr-12-07 06:48 AM |
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We need heat in the car in Michigan |
gollygee |
Apr-12-07 07:07 AM |
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No. |
NaturalHigh |
Apr-12-07 07:24 AM |
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Heat/AC |
Thothmes |
Apr-12-07 07:27 AM |
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No AC would lead to lots more Road Rage here in Houston... |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-12-07 07:35 AM |
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I'm 44 years old and I've never had a car with AC. |
femmedem |
Apr-12-07 08:18 AM |
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No heat for me would be a problem, but I didn't own a car with AC until I was |
lectrobyte |
Apr-12-07 08:21 AM |
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Heat no, AC yes. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Apr-12-07 08:45 AM |
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With a normal internal combustion engine |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 08:56 AM |
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heat uses no energy in a car... |
lithiumbomb |
Apr-12-07 08:47 AM |
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Heat in a fuel-based car with a mechanical engine is no waste. |
Tesha |
Apr-12-07 09:57 AM |
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Would you give up olives to save a baby bunny? nt |
antfarm |
Apr-12-07 10:02 AM |
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You don't have to give up either. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Apr-12-07 10:03 AM |
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Old enough that I've driven lots of cars without a.c. |
Disorganized |
Apr-12-07 10:15 AM |
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It seems that the general consensus is that heat is a must have |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 12:53 PM |
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I had a car with no AC or the Heat worked for 10 minutes... |
Solon |
Apr-12-07 01:28 PM |
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I've had a couple of convertibles.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 01:48 PM |
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I learned to wear light colored clothes, and a white baseball cap on those days... |
Solon |
Apr-12-07 02:07 PM |
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There is an awful lot of turbulence in the cockpit with the top down |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 03:02 PM |
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personal risk makes my tummy hurt |
mdmc |
Apr-12-07 02:08 PM |
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I live in Alaska where its -40 sometimes |
DenaliDemocrat |
Apr-12-07 03:27 PM |
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People should watch the mythbusters... |
snooper2 |
Apr-12-07 03:36 PM |
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I'm halfway there already |
NoGOPZone |
Apr-12-07 04:28 PM |
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too bad no engineers in the world exist anymore |
LSK |
Apr-12-07 04:47 PM |
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Electric heaters and refrigerators plug into the wall.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 05:05 PM |
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I think I addressed it in the other thread |
LSK |
Apr-12-07 05:30 PM |
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I'm not attacking the industry.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 05:59 PM |
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No thanks |
tammywammy |
Apr-12-07 04:52 PM |
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Yes. I would hate not having the AC, but people drove cars |
treestar |
Apr-12-07 05:33 PM |
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I rarely use the heat |
Phentex |
Apr-12-07 05:39 PM |
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No chance in hell. |
Balbus |
Apr-12-07 05:51 PM |
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How about a manual transmission? |
MindPilot |
Apr-12-07 06:09 PM |
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Automatics have gotten a lot better than they used to be. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 06:16 PM |
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In an internal-combustion car... |
sendero |
Apr-12-07 06:16 PM |
#109 |
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Of course Teslas have heaters |
IDemo |
Apr-12-07 06:59 PM |
#110 |
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The money quote again.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 07:26 PM |
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Your money isn't worth much so far |
IDemo |
Apr-12-07 08:12 PM |
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Does the Tesla Roadster |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 08:18 PM |
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Yes. That was stated very clearly in post #110 |
IDemo |
Apr-12-07 08:23 PM |
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I take my dogs in the car |
liberalEd |
Apr-12-07 07:02 PM |
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I have friends with two pure blooded wolves.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-12-07 07:32 PM |
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Your friends sound sorty scary :) |
liberalEd |
Apr-12-07 10:23 PM |
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I'm keeping my AC. |
Countdown_3_2_1 |
Apr-12-07 07:06 PM |
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Not without heat, but the car I have no has no AC... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-12-07 07:08 PM |
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Road rage would increase here. In south Tx I can manage fine without a heater, |
Ilsa |
Apr-12-07 07:09 PM |
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Factually wrong... |
ddeclue |
Apr-12-07 08:25 PM |
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No |
Raine |
Apr-12-07 08:25 PM |
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The best way to defrost the windshield |
liberalEd |
Apr-12-07 10:32 PM |
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Wadded up newspaper |
HooptieWagon |
Apr-13-07 12:13 PM |
#127 |
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