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It seems really ironic to me that for all the sophomoric boasting and bluster of our right-wing ignoramuses, about the only things we're #1 in anymore are the size of our military and our arrogance.
But the nincompoops just don't get it. It's fucking embarrassing. As for the logic the right is following, there is none. They don't know what "logic" is.
All we can do is keep pushing forward and pressuring our legislators. Once we drag the regressive 30% of our countrymen into a more progressive, civilized 21st Century with us (kicking and screaming, of course), they'll get used to the benefits real fast and, I guarantee, will try to take credit for getting us there. But that's okay. At least we'll be there.
Thanks for the kind thoughts and support!
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| -Employee of the NHS here (Scotland) |
Zix |
Aug-16-09 06:55 PM |
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The right in this country doesn't follow logic |
Warpy |
Aug-16-09 06:59 PM |
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They are only directed by fear. |
harun |
Aug-17-09 12:34 PM |
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Thank you! |
Brigid |
Aug-16-09 07:00 PM |
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k&r |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-16-09 07:01 PM |
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Beautifully said, and I could not agree more, although despair is very tempting. |
Laelth |
Aug-16-09 07:02 PM |
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Oh, Canada is very tempting. |
morillon |
Aug-16-09 08:40 PM |
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Please take me with you.... |
Joe the Liberal |
Aug-16-09 09:21 PM |
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take me with you and I don't think I am kidding! |
DollyM |
Aug-17-09 12:55 AM |
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If I win the lottery, I'm setting up an upscale refugee camp... |
morillon |
Aug-17-09 02:07 AM |
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AMEN!!! |
druidqueen |
Aug-17-09 09:24 AM |
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And so is Australia and New Zealand - but you don't see it on CSPAN |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Aug-16-09 10:27 PM |
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I want to move to Scotland. |
Catshrink |
Aug-16-09 07:04 PM |
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I don't drive, so it's all good for me. :^D |
GreenPartyVoter |
Aug-16-09 07:05 PM |
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my husband is British by birth also . . . |
DollyM |
Aug-17-09 12:58 AM |
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I'll go with you! |
proReality |
Aug-17-09 07:48 AM |
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Thanks for your post. Nothing is perfect but the NHS is far better than the crap here. |
JanMichael |
Aug-16-09 07:04 PM |
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This hasn't been "my" country for many years. |
mwb970 |
Aug-17-09 07:58 AM |
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K&R |
earthboundmisfit |
Aug-16-09 07:04 PM |
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Thanks for your post |
brentspeak |
Aug-16-09 07:05 PM |
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Thank you for posting that. I will pass it on to my family and friends. :^) |
GreenPartyVoter |
Aug-16-09 07:06 PM |
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Thank you |
TokenQueer |
Aug-16-09 07:06 PM |
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thank you for posting. |
barbtries |
Aug-16-09 07:09 PM |
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It's all about profits and money. Only seen from that angle does it make sense... |
Captain Hilts |
Aug-16-09 07:09 PM |
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By all means, please feel free to express your opinions here anytime! |
eShirl |
Aug-16-09 07:10 PM |
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Thank you. I just want people to know that it's possible to win. |
Zix |
Aug-16-09 07:21 PM |
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i wish the left in america were numerous but i fear its not the case. |
Mr Generic Other |
Aug-21-09 11:20 PM |
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Thank you. |
silverweb |
Aug-16-09 07:14 PM |
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keep speaking up (and thanks for doing so) |
corpseratemedia |
Aug-16-09 07:15 PM |
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I may be angrier with them than you. I know it sounds weird, but I think I might be. |
Zix |
Aug-16-09 07:23 PM |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Aug-16-09 07:22 PM |
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can you help me with this? |
KT2000 |
Aug-16-09 07:39 PM |
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Yes, taxes are VERY high in Scoland and Ireland - if you earn over about £35,000 |
Zix |
Aug-16-09 08:00 PM |
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Thank you |
KT2000 |
Aug-16-09 08:08 PM |
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I hope they don't end up destroying the NHS. |
Zix |
Aug-16-09 08:11 PM |
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Believe you me, Nix.... |
CANDO |
Aug-16-09 08:30 PM |
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Hm. well the NHS nearly DID die under the Tories. |
Zix |
Aug-16-09 08:44 PM |
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Was that under Maggie Thatcher? |
CANDO |
Aug-16-09 08:48 PM |
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Yes, and her immediate successor Joh Major. |
Zix |
Aug-16-09 09:11 PM |
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Well if they did.. |
Fedja |
Aug-17-09 02:34 AM |
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Best keep your eye on the CIA, then. |
Jack Sprat |
Aug-17-09 12:12 AM |
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But what percentage of US wages |
Sheepshank |
Aug-16-09 08:35 PM |
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Yes |
flying rabbit |
Aug-16-09 09:31 PM |
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Of course |
KT2000 |
Aug-16-09 09:46 PM |
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The tax topic is abused by the right. |
Fedja |
Aug-17-09 02:48 AM |
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That's what I thought... |
Veruca Salt |
Aug-17-09 10:14 AM |
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Thanks for the impressive summary! |
BlueMTexpat |
Aug-17-09 10:15 AM |
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Yeah but factor in health care in this country |
SteelPenguin |
Aug-17-09 10:33 AM |
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If you add both, your federal AND state income tax |
liberation |
Aug-17-09 12:34 PM |
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But you don't have to pay Insurance Premiums. |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-17-09 03:42 AM |
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yep sabrina, its the money. |
Mr Generic Other |
Aug-21-09 11:38 PM |
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20%/40% is VERY HIGH? |
Doctor_J |
Aug-17-09 12:37 PM |
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Thanks for your support and |
alsame |
Aug-16-09 08:17 PM |
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welcome to DU, Zix |
CatWoman |
Aug-16-09 08:20 PM |
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If I could rec this post X 100, I would. |
morillon |
Aug-16-09 08:35 PM |
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Well said Zix..... |
Joe the Liberal |
Aug-16-09 09:13 PM |
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Good post. Thanks. |
donco6 |
Aug-16-09 09:15 PM |
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the american economy is based on the plantation model |
Mr Generic Other |
Aug-16-09 09:54 PM |
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I quizzed my Uncle in Wales about the NHS: |
patsimae |
Aug-16-09 10:10 PM |
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If anyone wants figures for NHS waiting times, they're here |
muriel_volestrangler |
Aug-19-09 06:33 AM |
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we live in a very IGNORANT country. (recommending thread) |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Aug-16-09 10:26 PM |
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The right is being LIED TO by corporate interests |
Stephanie |
Aug-16-09 10:39 PM |
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I talk to alot of people on the right. They know. I tell them. |
rucky |
Aug-16-09 11:48 PM |
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Even if they're poor themselves |
Stephanie |
Aug-17-09 12:02 AM |
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The the rub isn't it |
Libertas1776 |
Aug-17-09 12:06 AM |
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Thanks for you input Zix and welcome |
zeemike |
Aug-16-09 10:58 PM |
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welcome to the site! |
Blue_Tires |
Aug-16-09 11:57 PM |
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Try as they might, |
Libertas1776 |
Aug-17-09 12:02 AM |
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You paint a scary scenario... |
Zix |
Aug-17-09 05:32 PM |
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guess our ad campaigns worked. |
Mr Generic Other |
Aug-21-09 11:48 PM |
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Good points all around. When I was younger I couldn't believe we didn't have a system like NHS. |
litlady |
Aug-17-09 12:20 AM |
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Welcome to DU Zix |
Oldtimeralso |
Aug-17-09 12:40 AM |
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The answer to all your questions about Americans and health care is.... |
cadaverdog |
Aug-17-09 01:05 AM |
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Thank you! K and R |
ClayZ |
Aug-17-09 01:20 AM |
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Please ask your colleagues to join us |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Aug-17-09 01:26 AM |
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Name removed |
Aug-17-09 01:37 AM |
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Thank you for speaking out. Your perspective is important and appreciated. n/t |
Triana |
Aug-17-09 01:48 AM |
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Thank you! |
Kitty Herder |
Aug-17-09 02:20 AM |
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plain and simple: MONEY AND CORPORATE/GOVERNMENT COLLUSION. n/t |
pepperbear |
Aug-17-09 03:06 AM |
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Good points.And a health service isn't SUPPOSED to make a profit. |
mr blur |
Aug-17-09 03:47 AM |
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this is why i keep asking conservative friends why we can't discuss how other countries do it |
CreekDog |
Aug-17-09 03:56 AM |
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Thank you so much for sharing. |
krister |
Aug-17-09 04:02 AM |
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Thank you for sharing. |
Delphinus |
Aug-17-09 06:00 AM |
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Fantastic post! |
indimuse |
Aug-17-09 06:23 AM |
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Thank you, and not only that, but ... |
planetc |
Aug-17-09 07:36 AM |
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Great post. |
lildreamer316 |
Aug-17-09 07:45 AM |
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Thanks for the encouraging post! n/t |
proReality |
Aug-17-09 07:50 AM |
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Answer to your question |
Shagbark Hickory |
Aug-17-09 08:08 AM |
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One or two things: |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-17-09 08:17 AM |
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what you fail to understand |
druidity33 |
Aug-17-09 09:45 AM |
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another kick and THANK YOU for the insights |
Blue_Tires |
Aug-17-09 09:54 AM |
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The political right wing in the USA |
fifthoffive |
Aug-17-09 10:02 AM |
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OK, here's a complicated answer: Believe it or not, it's mostly about RACE & history |
HamdenRice |
Aug-17-09 10:26 AM |
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Yep, they hate equality of any kind. |
harun |
Aug-17-09 12:36 PM |
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Thank you. |
glinda |
Aug-17-09 10:29 AM |
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Great post. As economist Paul Krugman says, the only thing stopping |
valerief |
Aug-17-09 11:34 AM |
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The right wing's attitude is to keep people scared, hungry, and ignorant |
Doctor_J |
Aug-17-09 12:36 PM |
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your question |
SemperEadem |
Aug-17-09 12:38 PM |
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Oooh... but they DO think the UK is a socialist country. Silly, but true. Thanks for your post! |
DrZeeLit |
Aug-17-09 12:56 PM |
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Can we borrow some Claymores and Highlanders? |
YOY |
Aug-17-09 01:25 PM |
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kr |
Norrin Radd |
Aug-17-09 01:41 PM |
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Thank you. And I think you nailed the problem: |
pnwmom |
Aug-17-09 01:42 PM |
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Rec # 135 |
mzmolly |
Aug-17-09 02:00 PM |
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You left out a salient issue...American bribery |
oxymoronic |
Aug-17-09 02:12 PM |
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Thanks - I needed a pep talk today. |
Vinca |
Aug-17-09 02:15 PM |
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Thanks, Zix. I imagine a lot of people in other nations are head-scratching and going 'WTF?' now... |
TygrBright |
Aug-17-09 02:30 PM |
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One of the best posts on DU in a long time...thanks. |
Bread and Circus |
Aug-17-09 02:38 PM |
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There can be no "giving up" . . . if you do, things only get WORSE . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 02:41 PM |
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We have "profiteer" involvement in health care in US because we have "profiteer" involvement . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 02:44 PM |
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Well, here's the deal. |
Enthusiast |
Aug-17-09 03:33 PM |
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Great post...thanks n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Aug-17-09 03:38 PM |
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BEAUTIFULLY put! Insurance should be for aberrations |
nolabear |
Aug-17-09 04:12 PM |
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I have just one thing to say... |
muffin1 |
Aug-17-09 04:15 PM |
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Not patronised at all and I thoroughly agree with you on all points |
GCP |
Aug-17-09 04:22 PM |
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That was one of the best posts I've seen here |
Juche |
Aug-17-09 04:42 PM |
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THANK YOU EVERYONE for your warm welcome and responses |
Zix |
Aug-17-09 06:32 PM |
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Well thank you for posting that! |
B3Nut |
Aug-17-09 07:19 PM |
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Thank you! |
texasleo |
Aug-19-09 03:05 AM |
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When human life is taken out of it then the sense comes through |
nightgaunt |
Aug-21-09 02:19 PM |
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Very enlightening. Could you persuade your government to drop leaflets |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Aug-22-09 12:01 AM |
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