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10. You seem to have misread the article. It is about concerns with the current vaccine
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 10:04 AM by snagglepuss
"One senior neurologist said last night: I would not have the swine
flu jab because of the GBS risk."


Dr Tom Jefferson, co-ordinator of the vaccines section of the influential Cochrane Collaboration, an independent group that reviews research, said: New vaccines never behave in the way you expect them to. It may be that there is a link to GBS, which is certainly not something I would wish on anybody.

But it could end up being anything because one of the additives in one of the vaccines is a substance called squalene, and none of the studies weve extracted have any research on it at all.

He said squalene, a naturally occurring enzyme, could potentially cause so-far-undiscovered side effects.


The purpose of the survey is for us to assess rapidly whether there is an increase in the frequency of GBS when the vaccine is released in the UK. It also increases consultants awareness of the condition.

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  -Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter - concern of neurologists over 25 deaths BadDonkey  Aug-16-09 09:29 AM   #0 
  - Nobody could have foreseen..  mbperrin   Aug-16-09 09:33 AM   #1 
  - Sigh.  Robb   Aug-16-09 09:34 AM   #2 
  - the acceptable "Collateral Damage" for Iraq/Afghanistan in an assignation attempt is 26 for 1, that  sam sarrha   Aug-16-09 09:39 AM   #3 
  - Thanks for that Cheerful comparison...  BadDonkey   Aug-16-09 09:45 AM   #4 
  - A profound observation  malaise   Aug-16-09 01:50 PM   #36 
  - "is why they are always dropping 1000 lb bombs on weddings..."  rd_kent   Aug-16-09 03:01 PM   #52 
  - If a select number of people are becoming wealthy un undogly information and they  peacetalksforall   Aug-16-09 09:46 AM   #5 
  - This is about the Swine Flu vaccine made in 1976, NOT the current one being tested.  Ian David   Aug-16-09 09:49 AM   #6 
  - Nope, they refer to the 70's vaccine, but they are addressing this one  Bluenorthwest   Aug-16-09 10:01 AM   #9 
  - But the headline is misleading. It gives the impression that the NEW one caused problems.  Ian David   Aug-16-09 11:54 AM   #23 
  - It also says "which could be triggered by the vaccine". "could" being the weasel word here  uppityperson   Aug-17-09 01:03 AM   #72 
  - You seem to have misread the article. It is about concerns with the current vaccine  snagglepuss   Aug-16-09 10:03 AM   #10 
  - We should test the vaccine on Republicans first since govt has no business regulating things.  Ian David   Aug-16-09 11:55 AM   #24 
     - But we still wouldn't know  Politicalboi   Aug-16-09 02:16 PM   #45 
        - True. It would be hard to tell the difference. Maybe if they started supporting Ron Paul? n/t  Ian David   Aug-16-09 02:22 PM   #46 
        - rofl - duzy alert...  Matariki   Aug-16-09 09:48 PM   #61 
  - No, read the opening paragraph here  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-16-09 01:07 PM   #30 
  - This looks like antivax disinformation again  Warpy   Aug-16-09 09:58 AM   #7 
  - Will you be the first to stand in line for a jab?  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-16-09 11:02 AM   #19 
     - I'm not a healthy young adult  Warpy   Aug-16-09 05:38 PM   #56 
        - Actually, I heard it would be offered to susceptible people first.  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-16-09 09:46 PM   #60 
           - You heard wrong or you weren't listening.  Maru Kitteh   Aug-16-09 09:58 PM   #62 
           - If this thing is due for mass use in September, as they were planning to do,  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-17-09 08:33 AM   #82 
           - Yes, after testing  Warpy   Aug-16-09 10:19 PM   #65 
              - Warpy, I think people are already being tested.  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-17-09 08:32 AM   #81 
  - Those cases of GBS were in 1976!  MineralMan   Aug-16-09 10:00 AM   #8 
  - This is misleading. The 25 deaths occurred in 1976.  deminks   Aug-16-09 10:03 AM   #11 
  - we need to be alert for anti-vaccine propaganda  Bragi   Aug-16-09 01:05 PM   #28 
  - And it should go straight to the nuthouse dungeon, where it belongs.  Maru Kitteh   Aug-16-09 10:00 PM   #63 
  - And there were some 40 million vaccinations involved  Posteritatis   Aug-16-09 01:05 PM   #29 
  - Thanks very much for postinga and welcome to DU  snagglepuss   Aug-16-09 10:06 AM   #12 
  - I guess we need to be ready for the anti-vaccine posts.  MineralMan   Aug-16-09 10:10 AM   #13 
  - Misleading bullshit. Check. Irresponsible journalism. Check.  enki23   Aug-16-09 10:14 AM   #14 
  - The Daily Mail has a rep for that n/t  Wiley50   Aug-16-09 02:02 PM   #40 
  - My 79 Year Old Father received The Swine Flu Shot May 10 2009  Binka   Aug-16-09 10:32 AM   #15 
  - Are you serious, Binka?  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-16-09 11:03 AM   #20 
  - I hesitate to say this because of course I am sorry to hear of your loss,  hedgehog   Aug-16-09 11:44 AM   # 
  - There isn't even a swine flu shot available right now for the general public  DeschutesRiver   Aug-16-09 12:52 PM   #25 
  - My father had his shot at Leesburg General on May 9th (not the 10th)  Binka   Aug-16-09 12:57 PM   #26 
     - well it's apparent he got a flu shot and then died of the GBS  pitohui   Aug-16-09 01:20 PM   #33 
     - It appears to be rare but according to the CDC, it can happen from a regular flu shot.  Blue Diadem   Aug-16-09 02:06 PM   #41 
     - As A Naval Officer He Was Totally Anal Retentive  Binka   Aug-16-09 02:15 PM   #44 
        - Yes it was shitty. Please, if you can, report it so that it's on record.  Blue Diadem   Aug-16-09 02:25 PM   #47 
     - Swine flu shots are not yet available. He must have been mistaken. (links)  Maru Kitteh   Aug-16-09 10:06 PM   #64 
  - You are kidding right?  BadDonkey   Aug-16-09 11:44 AM   #21 
  - helooo Binka.... please confirm that your atement is for reaaallllz? Dates are off a bit?  BadDonkey   Aug-16-09 11:53 AM   #22 
  - Her Dad just past over a couple of weeks ago and she should know what he was diagnosed with.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-16-09 01:10 PM   #32 
     - Binka told us precisely what he was diagnosed with  malaise   Aug-16-09 01:55 PM   #37 
     - Same here.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-16-09 02:02 PM   #39 
     - Thanks Friend. I Was Not Going To Post His Condition But I Needed Support  Binka   Aug-16-09 02:09 PM   #42 
        - Hugs to you again. My mom's and dad's ashes are about 45 minutes from  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-16-09 02:14 PM   #43 
        - Yep I'm glad you posted the details  malaise   Aug-16-09 02:52 PM   #49 
        - aw, honey --  elehhhhna   Aug-16-09 06:42 PM   #59 
        - My condolences Binka  uppityperson   Aug-17-09 01:06 AM   #73 
        - sorry about your loss... I wish my life will be as active as his was at his age..  BadDonkey   Aug-17-09 07:04 AM   #78 
     - wasn't questioning anything...  BadDonkey   Aug-17-09 08:22 AM   #80 
  - OMFG! I am so sorry Binka!  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-16-09 01:09 PM   #31 
  - That's pretty amazing since it's not available  Warpy   Aug-16-09 05:39 PM   #57 
  - Binka, it's possible.  Gormy Cuss   Aug-16-09 11:23 PM   #68 
  - The Daily Mail??  mzteris   Aug-16-09 10:39 AM   #16 
  - I thought that too... but this seems well researched... would CNN or ABC have been more credible...  BadDonkey   Aug-16-09 10:49 AM   #17 
  - Hate to break it to you all.  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-16-09 11:00 AM   #18 
  - this information is from the 70s, so we ALL knew about it  pitohui   Aug-16-09 01:23 PM   #34 
     - I read the article and it sounds like they are using what happened in  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-16-09 01:57 PM   #38 
  - This article is crap  Bragi   Aug-16-09 01:03 PM   #27 
  - Exactly...  LeftishBrit   Aug-16-09 04:58 PM   #55 
  - Idiot journalism. There have not been any cases with this vaccine.  caseymoz   Aug-16-09 01:47 PM   #35 
  - Bullshit journalism. GBS can be triggered BY a virus.  uppityperson   Aug-16-09 02:50 PM   #48 
  - It can also be triggered by vaccinations.  Gormy Cuss   Aug-16-09 11:28 PM   #70 
  - I also know someone who got it after a vaccine. But I know many many more who  uppityperson   Aug-17-09 12:51 AM   #71 
  - Yeah, it's a rare complication of pretty much any alteration to your immune system  Recursion   Aug-17-09 08:05 AM   #79 
  - Many vaccines are associated with GBS  KamaAina   Aug-16-09 02:55 PM   #50 
  - Our daughter had GBS when she was 15...there are many vaccines  Saphire   Aug-17-09 05:45 AM   #77 
  - Welcome to DU!  Strong Atheist   Aug-16-09 03:01 PM   #51 
  - No flu shots for me.  cwydro   Aug-16-09 03:05 PM   #53 
  - The Daily Mail is our equivalent of Rush Limbaugh's talk-show crossed with the National Enquirer  LeftishBrit   Aug-16-09 04:54 PM   #54 
  - WooHooo makes me want to run right out and get one.  yost69   Aug-16-09 06:01 PM   #58 
  - This topic...  TeeYiYi   Aug-16-09 11:01 PM   #66 
  - My mother got a flu shot every year....and then in 1999....  Th1onein   Aug-16-09 11:15 PM   #67 
  - I'd like a close look to be taken at all the jabs given to Africans before the AIDS breakout! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Aug-17-09 02:29 AM   #76 
  - Nothing like reporting GBS cases from 1976. Idiots.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Aug-16-09 11:25 PM   #69 
  - There are no easy answers. (no text)  Quantess   Aug-17-09 01:07 AM   #74 
  - I remember the swine flu hysteria in the 70's.  ohheckyeah   Aug-17-09 01:10 AM   #75 

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