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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:07 AM
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40. a nurse having to move and lift someone dosent compare to a grunt having to
move, lift and carry someone whilst under fire, for distance and still being able to fight if neccessary, we have to face the fact that at the high end females still cant compete physically with men, or we would have co ed NFL, basketball, soccer etc... we are different species in a lot of ways..
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  -There is no way you can support keeping women out of combat and not be considered a sexist RB TexLa  Aug-16-09 12:21 AM   #0 
  - Speaking from knowledge of my personal lack of strength, I'd  dkf   Aug-16-09 12:22 AM   #1 
  - There are many people without the physical strength to be in combat  RB TexLa   Aug-16-09 12:24 AM   #2 
  - Woman, man, don't care as long as they take the bullet that was meant for me.  timeforpeace   Aug-16-09 11:56 AM   #51 
  - Boot camp and a regimen of physical training can correct that.  Selatius   Aug-16-09 12:26 AM   #3 
  - Seriously I don't think I could.  dkf   Aug-16-09 12:30 AM   #5 
  - I could see that. Some women are pretty small but not all.  Selatius   Aug-16-09 12:37 AM   #9 
  - A 10 year old girl can handle rifle recoil.  TxRider   Aug-16-09 10:48 AM   #30 
  - I teach shooting. You could learn to shoot just fine.  Tim01   Aug-16-09 10:52 AM   #34 
  - Recoil from the gun... no problem.  Statistical   Aug-16-09 08:03 PM   #61 
  - problem is your saying the minimum standards, i would be all for it if the women can compete at the  vadawg   Aug-16-09 10:39 AM   #22 
     - Maybe I can lift your leg, but the best I can do realistically is drag you around for a bit.  dkf   Aug-16-09 11:35 AM   #47 
  - 13 weeks of basic training have a way of solving that little problem  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-16-09 12:28 AM   #4 
  - After a tour of duty in Nam, I see nothing that would keep a woman from combat.  TahitiNut   Aug-16-09 12:39 AM   #10 
  - LOL, that was funny  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-16-09 12:46 AM   #13 
  - You served in a combat unit?  Tim01   Aug-16-09 11:02 AM   #38 
     - The traditional 'combat arms' are armor (cavalry), artillery, and infantry.  TahitiNut   Aug-16-09 11:47 AM   #49 
        - I've never seen a police officer carrying gear loads exceeding 100 pounds  Ex Lurker   Aug-16-09 07:46 PM   #60 
  - As a female Army vet, I can tell you that women can and do perform  DevonRex   Aug-16-09 10:52 AM   #33 
  - In a book by one of my favorite authors, the main male character says"Women should  Strong Atheist   Aug-16-09 12:30 AM   #6 
  - Good one.  CrispyQ   Aug-16-09 09:05 AM   #18 
     - Ah, yes... nt.  Strong Atheist   Aug-16-09 10:33 AM   #20 
  - I agree (n/t)  mitchum   Aug-16-09 12:31 AM   #7 
  - It's a bit more complicated than that  nini   Aug-16-09 12:32 AM   #8 
  - That might be an argument relating to police work, NOT military combat.  TahitiNut   Aug-16-09 12:42 AM   #11 
     - You know as a medic, I got assaulted in the field a couple times  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-16-09 12:45 AM   #12 
     - true.. like I said many women can do this but not all  nini   Aug-16-09 05:36 PM   #55 
  - Why? Is there a war going on or something? Where? n/t  leftstreet   Aug-16-09 12:56 AM   #14 
  - There is an easy solution. No one should be required to go into  Cleita   Aug-16-09 01:09 AM   #15 
  - It's also sexist that women are exempt from having to register for the Selective Service!  Unrepentant Fenian   Aug-16-09 01:48 AM   #16 
     - Oh I definitely think they should. As a matter of fact when the draft was  Cleita   Aug-16-09 02:01 AM   #17 
  - It is sexist to say that only men should be in combat...  kentuck   Aug-16-09 09:07 AM   #19 
  - IMO, being in combat is about a lot more than mere PHYSICAL strength. It's keeping cool under fire  KittyWampus   Aug-16-09 10:38 AM   #21 
  - My girlfriend was part of a female Marine test group.  Tim01   Aug-16-09 10:50 AM   #31 
  - Most women generally aren't strong enough to  chrisa   Aug-16-09 10:42 AM   #23 
  - theres anothe phenomenon that hasnt been addressed i call it little sister syndrome  vadawg   Aug-16-09 10:46 AM   #29 
  - If the woman can pick up a 200lb wounded man and run with him, fine.  Tim01   Aug-16-09 10:44 AM   #24 
  - They are going to amuse themselves doing that to captured men as well  RB TexLa   Aug-16-09 10:46 AM   #26 
     - I don't beleive it is anywhere near as prevelant. Not at all.  Tim01   Aug-16-09 10:58 AM   #36 
  - Are you saying there are no physical differences between males and females?  tabasco   Aug-16-09 10:45 AM   #25 
  - I'll look and see if I said that or not. You can look as well.  RB TexLa   Aug-16-09 10:46 AM   #27 
  - No it's not the same  TxRider   Aug-16-09 10:46 AM   #28 
  - I agree with you, although I think it's also about mothers dying in combat and not just strength  zinziber officinale   Aug-16-09 10:51 AM   #32 
  - "how much strength does it take to pull a trigger"? You realize there's recoil on many weapons?  KittyWampus   Aug-16-09 11:02 AM   #39 
  - I say have physical requirements that have to be met regardless of sex.  aikoaiko   Aug-16-09 10:58 AM   #35 
  - There is no such thing as the "front lines" anymore. All troops are trained  DevonRex   Aug-16-09 10:59 AM   #37 
  - a nurse having to move and lift someone dosent compare to a grunt having to  vadawg   Aug-16-09 11:07 AM   #40 
     - As a female Army veteran, I can tell you that even MALES have to pass off their wounded comrades  DevonRex   Aug-16-09 11:16 AM   #41 
        - i disagree with you as a male veteran with combat experience  vadawg   Aug-16-09 11:21 AM   #42 
  - I think women teams should be competing in the NFL too.  deaniac21   Aug-16-09 11:26 AM   #43 
  - rofl what do yo uthink the spread would be in the games against the female NFL team.  vadawg   Aug-16-09 11:30 AM   # 
  - rofl what do yo uthink the spread would be in the games against the female NFL team.  vadawg   Aug-16-09 11:30 AM   #45 
  - rofl what do yo uthink the spread would be in the games against the female NFL team.  vadawg   Aug-16-09 11:30 AM   #46 
  - I don't know how much privacy women can expect if they need to urinate in a fox hole, but if that  Motown_Johnny   Aug-16-09 11:29 AM   #44 
  - "God did not make men equal; Samuel Colt did"  FarCenter   Aug-16-09 11:40 AM   #48 
  - I'm going to be considered a sexist  jmowreader   Aug-16-09 11:54 AM   #50 
  - I would like to see keeping everyone out of combat  lunatica   Aug-16-09 12:04 PM   #52 
  - We don't always agree. This time I do.  Deja Q   Aug-16-09 12:05 PM   #53 
  - Men shouldn't be in combat either  slackmaster   Aug-16-09 12:17 PM   #54 
  - This OP seems designed as flamebait and is simply inaccurate.  ddeclue   Aug-16-09 05:51 PM   #56 
  - I did not say that every person of either gender is physically strong enough for any particular job  RB TexLa   Aug-16-09 06:41 PM   #59 
  - I imagine many people feel...  LanternWaste   Aug-16-09 06:11 PM   #57 
  - women are in combat now, in a variety of roles. The issue is whether they should be in  Ex Lurker   Aug-16-09 06:37 PM   #58 
  - It's certainly discrimination on grounds of sex; that doesn't ipse facto mean it's wrong.  Donald Ian Rankin   Aug-16-09 08:33 PM   #62 

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