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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 07:16 PM
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That same pugnacious attitude was on display after conservatives attacked an April report from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that suggested a resurgence of radical right-wing activity was under way. "We will not fear our government; they will fear us," one man, who appeared to be on active duty in the Army, said in an angry video sent to the Oath Keepers blog. In another video at the site, a man who said he was a former Army paratrooper in Afghanistan and Iraq described President Obama as "an enemy of the state," adding, "I would rather die than be a slave to my government." The Oath Keepers site soon began hawking T-shirts with slogans like "I'm a Right Wing Extremist and Damn Proud of It!"

In April, Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes a Yale Law School graduate and former aide to U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (a Texas Republican and hard-line libertarian) worried about a coming dictatorship. "We know that if the day should come where a full-blown dictatorship would come, or tyranny it can only happen if those men, our brothers in arms, go along and comply with unconstitutional, unlawful orders," Rhodes told conspiracy-minded radio host Alex Jones. "Imagine if we focus on the police and military. Game over for the New World Order."

He's not the first to think so. In the 1990s, retired Phoenix cop and conspiracy enthusiast Jack McLamb created an outfit called Police Against the New World Order and produced a 75-page document entitled Operation Vampire Killer 2000: American Police Action Plan for Stopping World Government Rule.

It's not known how large Oath Keepers is. But there is some evidence beyond the group's mere existence to suggest that today's Patriots are again making inroads into law enforcement the leak of the DHS report, along with those of a couple of similar law enforcement reports, was likely the work of a sworn officer. Rhodes claims to know a federal officer leaked the DHS report, and says Oath Keepers is "hearing from more and more federal officers all the time."

The group does seem to be on the radar of federal law enforcement officers. In May, a member complained on the group's website of a visit to his farm by FBI agents who asked him, he said, about training he provides in firearms, survival skills and the like.


The sounds of violence are growing louder. The Idaho Citizens Constitutional Militia recently posted an opening for a "field sniper."

And what the hell is with the Ron Paul whack jobs?
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  -Retired FBI Agent Tells Militias Feds Have Set Up 30,000 Guillotines RamboLiberal  Aug-14-09 07:04 PM   #0 
  - Is there no end to the nutjobs and do we have to house all of them?  MichiganVote   Aug-14-09 07:05 PM   #1 
  - No, there isn't an end to it.  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-14-09 10:05 PM   #36 
  - Guillotines?  The Velveteen Ocelot   Aug-14-09 07:05 PM   #2 
  - Liberals get their political ideas, fashion and execution technology from France  JBoy   Aug-14-09 07:19 PM   #13 
  - Freedom choppers! Not to be confused with the freedom fries electric chairs.  Hansel   Aug-14-09 09:05 PM   #32 
  - Are you saying it is Liberals that are doing this?  winyanstaz   Aug-15-09 02:31 AM   #58 
  - And while they await Madame Guillotine we will torture them with fois gras and truffles  Monk06   Aug-14-09 07:44 PM   #20 
  - And perhaps taunt them a second time. nt  Robb   Aug-14-09 07:48 PM   #21 
     - Mais oui. Their mothers were hamsters and their fathers smelt of elderberries.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Aug-14-09 07:51 PM   #23 
     - ...  varelse   Aug-14-09 08:57 PM   #29 
  - Some of the more loony Christians believe  Mariana   Aug-14-09 08:56 PM   #28 
  - Yeah, we all know that guillotines are mentioned in the Bible.  Ikonoklast   Aug-15-09 12:54 AM   #51 
  - Well, they are nice and efficient...  mitchum   Aug-15-09 12:30 AM   #49 
  - Gawd!  Tangerine LaBamba   Aug-15-09 12:57 AM   #53 
  - I bet they're cheap, made in China guillotines  XemaSab   Aug-15-09 02:44 AM   #60 
  - How stupid do you have to be to believe this?  Old and In the Way   Aug-14-09 07:07 PM   #3 
  - except believes like this have cropped up on DU since I first got here quite a while ago  KittyWampus   Aug-14-09 11:31 PM   #45 
  - The "Oath Keepers" deal is of great concern  TheKentuckian   Aug-14-09 07:09 PM   #4 
  - They have 10 Items they pledge not to do  RamboLiberal   Aug-14-09 07:13 PM   #7 
  - All the deep seated RW fears are addressed in that list.  madeline_con   Aug-14-09 11:20 PM   #44 
  - Read this part  RamboLiberal   Aug-14-09 07:16 PM   #11 
  - Cops.  asdjrocky   Aug-14-09 07:09 PM   #5 
  - Guillotines?  booley   Aug-14-09 07:10 PM   #6 
  - Oh, we hardly need thirty thousand guillotines.  aquart   Aug-14-09 07:14 PM   #8 
  - FTW  DeepBlueC   Aug-14-09 07:15 PM   #10 
  - This is why I don't trust 95% of the FBI and 99% of the CIA  jasi2006   Aug-14-09 07:15 PM   #9 
  - He forgot Zyklon B gas chambers, Greco-Roman crucifiction, and good ol' fashioned stoning  Swamp Rat   Aug-14-09 07:17 PM   #12 
  - SPLC paper talks about Beck and Dobbs  RamboLiberal   Aug-14-09 07:20 PM   #14 
  - insanity  barbtries   Aug-14-09 07:21 PM   #15 
  - Minutemen talking of armed insurrection  RamboLiberal   Aug-14-09 07:26 PM   #16 
  - How come nobody ever alleges the govt. is setting up free beer gardens?  Poll_Blind   Aug-14-09 07:27 PM   #17 
  - Rape rooms! Rape rooms! Rape rooooooooooooooooms! n/t  Poll_Blind   Aug-14-09 07:29 PM   #18 
  - Guillotines? Let them eat Cheetos!  IDemo   Aug-14-09 07:32 PM   #19 
  - mentally ill  eShirl   Aug-14-09 07:50 PM   #22 
  - ...  Veruca Salt   Aug-14-09 07:51 PM   #24 
  - Feds are also seeking 30,000 ISO-certified guillotineurs  tj2001   Aug-14-09 07:59 PM   #25 
  - This is part of the stimulus right?  ContinentalOp   Aug-14-09 08:04 PM   #26 
  - Calling entrepreneurs: Opportunity to make money. The guillotines will produce A LOT of blood.  tj2001   Aug-14-09 08:24 PM   #27 
  - well it would be 30,000 jobs we don't have now  704wipes   Aug-14-09 09:07 PM   #33 
  - They'll probably hire H1-B's /nt  jberryhill   Aug-14-09 09:27 PM   #35 
  - Where do I send a resume?  Mopar151   Aug-14-09 10:40 PM   #41 
  - Sorry, but they are already here  RamboLiberal   Aug-15-09 12:31 AM   #50 
  - He was looking for specimens to be used  tj2001   Aug-15-09 12:55 AM   #52 
  - !  Heidi   Aug-15-09 02:31 AM   #57 
  - Hades!1 ---------- *I*'ll -------KICK this!1 n/t  UTUSN   Aug-14-09 08:59 PM   #30 
  - And 45,000 horses for drawing and quartering  Canuckistanian   Aug-14-09 09:00 PM   #31 
  - It seems that there's maybe 3 people up in Lexington Mass  annabanana   Aug-14-09 09:18 PM   #34 
  - I wonder about people who keep their tin foil radio always tuned to the  libertypirate   Aug-14-09 10:14 PM   #37 
  - Ow! The stupid from the wingnuts! It burns!  Kievan Rus   Aug-14-09 10:16 PM   #38 
  - Former Agent, or Agent Provocateur?  TexasObserver   Aug-14-09 10:20 PM   #39 
  - Sounds like a typical RW bullshit artist  B3Nut   Aug-14-09 10:52 PM   #43 
  - Ted Gunderson? That's a name with a lot of creepy connections  starroute   Aug-14-09 10:36 PM   #40 
  - Oh, a PROMIS link?  boppers   Aug-14-09 10:47 PM   #42 
     - cointelpro  troubledamerican   Aug-15-09 04:32 PM   #61 
        - Not sure what you meant by that.  boppers   Aug-15-09 07:47 PM   #62 
  - Cool. . .so we can freak them all out if we mock-up some guillotines  kevinbgoode   Aug-14-09 11:32 PM   #46 
  - Google 30,000 Guillotines - these fools believe it  RamboLiberal   Aug-15-09 12:25 AM   #47 
  - Seriously, if you were going to kill a bunch of people, why would you choose guillotines?  LostInAnomie   Aug-15-09 02:39 AM   #59 
  - I remember that kook Gunderson from his "Operation Vampire" days of the 80s and 90s  mitchum   Aug-15-09 12:28 AM   #48 
  - Obama did all that in 6 months?  nini   Aug-15-09 12:58 AM   #54 
  - well guillotines ARE the most environmental friendly...  Blue_Tires   Aug-15-09 01:10 AM   #55 
  - Paging Mme. Defarge - your seat on the death panel awaits.  Morning Dew   Aug-15-09 02:22 AM   #56 
  - Crack head  Pavulon   Aug-15-09 07:51 PM   #63 
  - Too many "shaken not stirred" martinis during his FBI days.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-15-09 07:53 PM   #64 
  - There's that date again...April 19th  POAS   Aug-15-09 08:07 PM   #65 

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