Pavulon
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Wed Aug-12-09 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #152 |
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like female surgeon who drives an Audi S8? Federal agent, mathematics professor Just curious..
Not all gun owners live in a trailer, chew tobacco and wear dirty t shirts.
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| -I don't want my child around people who carry guns... |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 04:41 PM |
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Maybe you should read this... |
derby378 |
Aug-11-09 04:42 PM |
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But, but, but...New Hampshire is a very dangerous place. We have a |
Raven |
Aug-11-09 04:44 PM |
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Yes New Hampshire IS a safe place - and has some of the most liberal gun laws in the nation |
dmallind |
Aug-11-09 04:47 PM |
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Study: Strong gun laws lead to fewer crimes |
villager |
Aug-11-09 04:53 PM |
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Your subject proves you didn't read the article based on the Brady Center for Misinformation. n/t |
jody |
Aug-11-09 04:58 PM |
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LOL |
michreject |
Aug-11-09 07:08 PM |
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the usual high level of NRA rhetoric, I see |
villager |
Aug-11-09 07:45 PM |
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If they will lie about one thing |
michreject |
Aug-11-09 09:24 PM |
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Broad sweeping pronouncements, much? |
villager |
Aug-11-09 09:35 PM |
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Sure |
michreject |
Aug-12-09 05:22 AM |
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a source you decide is "credible," since, obviously, you have no "agenda?" |
villager |
Aug-12-09 09:28 AM |
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Oh give me a small break |
a la izquierda |
Aug-12-09 06:00 PM |
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I'm pro-gun and I agree with you |
Taverner |
Aug-11-09 04:45 PM |
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CCW permit holders have a lower incident rate than police officers... |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 04:46 PM |
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I question the sanity of anyone who thinks they have to carry a concealed weapon all the time... |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 04:48 PM |
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Well it depends on where you live... |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 04:50 PM |
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I would really like to see some stats on that. n/t |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 04:51 PM |
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It may take me a while to find the stats. They are hard to find... |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 04:57 PM |
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I'll try to find some, too. I'm really curious. n/t |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 05:03 PM |
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You don't need stats, use your eyes and where you see a police officer with a handgun you can assume |
jody |
Aug-11-09 05:02 PM |
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In my OP I said that cops were the exception. n/t |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 05:03 PM |
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armyowalgreens: "some areas of the country that I would never enter without a gun." |
jody |
Aug-11-09 06:04 PM |
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What areas would those be? I'm curious. (n/t) |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Aug-12-09 12:15 AM |
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That's where you and I differ, you "question" but "I know" there's something unusual about anyone |
jody |
Aug-11-09 04:52 PM |
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perhaps your problem is |
Howardx |
Aug-11-09 05:01 PM |
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It has already prevented crimnals from harming me on three occassions. Have a good day |
jody |
Aug-11-09 05:59 PM |
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uh huh |
Howardx |
Aug-12-09 12:28 PM |
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I never said a word about denying anyone the right own a gun.... |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 05:04 PM |
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It's much safer for a gun owner to carry concealed... |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 05:07 PM |
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So you mean they can own a gun but not use it for self-defense. That's not the purpose of RKBA. n/t |
jody |
Aug-11-09 05:55 PM |
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Why |
Pavulon |
Aug-11-09 06:08 PM |
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I question the sanity |
rd_kent |
Aug-12-09 02:09 PM |
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define "perfect" |
maxsolomon |
Aug-11-09 04:49 PM |
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You are twisting statistics to help your case... |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 04:52 PM |
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It only takes one, doesn't it? |
Missy Vixen |
Aug-11-09 04:54 PM |
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What do you mean? It only takes one to do what? |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 04:56 PM |
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Oh, so "rate of incident" is the new lingo, huh? |
Missy Vixen |
Aug-11-09 05:10 PM |
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Your own statement destroys your argument... |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 05:13 PM |
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And you consider yourself one of "the good guys"? |
Missy Vixen |
Aug-11-09 05:15 PM |
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Well, I don't consider myself a bad guy. |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 05:17 PM |
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No point huh? Do you live in safe areas with places like |
guardian |
Aug-11-09 09:33 PM |
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A Unitarian church in TN and a Lutheran church in KS also come to mind. |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Aug-12-09 12:20 AM |
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which of the recent gun massacres have been committed.... |
Howardx |
Aug-11-09 05:27 PM |
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How many "massacres" occur compared to other violent crimes? |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 05:38 PM |
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what's a "massacre" to you? |
maxsolomon |
Aug-11-09 06:22 PM |
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so the answer is none then |
Howardx |
Aug-12-09 08:36 AM |
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Good point. The PA killer had all the hallmarks of a psycho: no friends, no women, lots of guns. nt |
cabluedem |
Aug-11-09 06:55 PM |
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Apples and Oranges... |
orwell |
Aug-11-09 05:00 PM |
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You know what's funny? |
Call Me Wesley |
Aug-11-09 05:27 PM |
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No I am not. I'm not 21 yet. |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 05:39 PM |
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Don't get one. (nt) |
Call Me Wesley |
Aug-11-09 05:45 PM |
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Why not? |
armyowalgreens |
Aug-11-09 05:47 PM |
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You just add to the 'incident rate' by a chance. |
Call Me Wesley |
Aug-11-09 05:54 PM |
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Aug-12-09 12:13 AM |
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Lower incidence rate of what? |
jasi2006 |
Aug-12-09 06:03 AM |
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Ug... |
Realityhack |
Aug-13-09 10:54 AM |
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I've never been paranoid |
sharp_stick |
Aug-11-09 04:46 PM |
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And that's your right but that's not a reason to deny others their pre-existing or inalienable right |
jody |
Aug-11-09 04:48 PM |
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I never said a word about denying anyone the right own a gun... |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 04:50 PM |
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You do know denying CCW is denying the right to own a gun, don't you? If you don't, then you need to |
jody |
Aug-11-09 04:54 PM |
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Aug-11-09 05:04 PM |
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try hanging out in the gungeon for a while, if you haven't yet |
Scout |
Aug-11-09 05:12 PM |
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The anti-guns on this thread... |
vincna |
Aug-11-09 09:39 PM |
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Aug-12-09 02:02 PM |
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:rofl: ohmigoddess, I'm laughing so hard I'm crying!!!! n/t |
Scout |
Aug-12-09 03:00 PM |
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Prove my statement is false or stand condemned of your own accusation. n/t |
jody |
Aug-11-09 05:56 PM |
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its ridiculous on its face |
Howardx |
Aug-12-09 02:14 PM |
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What is ridiculous about a law-abiding citizen bearing arms for self-defense when government is not |
jody |
Aug-12-09 05:34 PM |
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nice evasion |
Howardx |
Aug-12-09 06:02 PM |
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I take your reply as proof you are unable to support your assertion. Have a nice day and goodbye. nt |
jody |
Aug-12-09 06:10 PM |
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support MY assertion? |
Howardx |
Aug-12-09 06:26 PM |
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jeezzz..... |
G_j |
Aug-12-09 06:32 PM |
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Please separate one's support of banning firearms from Obama's presence and town hall meetings from |
jody |
Aug-12-09 06:37 PM |
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separate? |
G_j |
Aug-12-09 06:47 PM |
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Read as you please. Have a peaceful evening. n/t |
jody |
Aug-12-09 06:57 PM |
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Well, I never said anything about denying anyone to carry a concealed weapon, either... |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 05:05 PM |
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You said "I've never liked the concealed gun laws one single bit." that means you want them repealed |
jody |
Aug-11-09 05:59 PM |
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It's comical that the gungeon empties out over something like this |
Missy Vixen |
Aug-11-09 05:04 PM |
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uh oh, they'll all get their knickers in a knot ... you said penis in a gun post! |
Scout |
Aug-11-09 05:14 PM |
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Ohh, yeahhh |
Missy Vixen |
Aug-11-09 05:17 PM |
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I want them to steer clear of police... n/t |
kirby |
Aug-11-09 04:49 PM |
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Its unfortunate that you feel that way |
rd_kent |
Aug-11-09 04:50 PM |
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you are not alone |
DrDan |
Aug-11-09 04:51 PM |
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Neither do I, but I'm afraid we are both out of luck. n/t |
Kceres |
Aug-11-09 04:52 PM |
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I don't want my President around people who carry guns |
Adelante |
Aug-11-09 04:53 PM |
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That's a red herring when the OP opposed all CCW. n/t |
jody |
Aug-11-09 04:55 PM |
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Your profile says you live in Tennessee? |
RamboLiberal |
Aug-11-09 04:57 PM |
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Probably a lot more... |
cynatnite |
Aug-11-09 05:22 PM |
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We Pro-RKBA Dems are concerned when gun-grabbers talk about repealing CCW or renewing AWB, and |
jody |
Aug-11-09 06:17 PM |
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where is the right to CCW in the constitution? |
Howardx |
Aug-12-09 02:04 PM |
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CCW is not in our Constitution but "bear arms" is. SCOTUS recognized that "bear arms" does include |
jody |
Aug-12-09 05:54 PM |
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what does that have to do with my question? |
Howardx |
Aug-12-09 06:06 PM |
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Ah. Chatanooga Koo-Koos. |
verges |
Aug-11-09 10:48 PM |
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Including my TN relatives; uncles and cousins. n/t |
madeline_con |
Aug-11-09 06:27 PM |
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I don't want my person around people who carry guns. |
Demobrat |
Aug-11-09 04:57 PM |
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See #8 n/t |
jody |
Aug-11-09 05:00 PM |
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No way would I try to stop a gun nut from carrying a gun. |
Demobrat |
Aug-11-09 06:33 PM |
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You do know that law enforcement officers fit your definition. Self-defense is your personal |
jody |
Aug-11-09 06:53 PM |
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I agree and my kids are grown |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-11-09 05:05 PM |
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I agree completely |
etherealtruth |
Aug-11-09 05:07 PM |
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Yet, going to church requires a gun? |
spirit of wine |
Aug-11-09 05:11 PM |
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If Tiller had been carrying, things might have turned out differently.n/t |
madeline_con |
Aug-11-09 06:29 PM |
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I don't want my child around people who shoot up other people, or around assholes |
uppityperson |
Aug-11-09 05:47 PM |
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I don't want a child shooting a gun next to me at the shooting range! |
L0oniX |
Aug-11-09 05:58 PM |
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Due to the nature of concealment, you'll never know who's armed, |
madeline_con |
Aug-11-09 06:25 PM |
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Move to California. Most people cant get handgun permits and we have a ban on assault weapons. nt |
cabluedem |
Aug-11-09 06:49 PM |
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Ban on assault weapons and same-sex marriage. n/t |
jody |
Aug-11-09 06:54 PM |
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And our murder rate is zero! |
Throd |
Aug-11-09 06:57 PM |
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I could be wrong |
Retired AF Dem |
Aug-11-09 07:37 PM |
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Most people can open carry in CA.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-11-09 07:38 PM |
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Go ahead and open carry in most towns. You will have a taser and a dog on you in minutes.. |
cabluedem |
Aug-12-09 12:06 AM |
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I can buy a ccw, that is the CA trick |
Pavulon |
Aug-12-09 06:07 AM |
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Depends on the city.. this is San Diego.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-12-09 09:46 AM |
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But most people don't. |
krabigirl |
Aug-12-09 02:52 PM |
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Don't vs can't.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-12-09 05:46 PM |
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cynatnite |
Israfel4 |
Aug-11-09 06:50 PM |
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You have been around people with guns all the time, if you are in Tn. |
Tim01 |
Aug-11-09 06:54 PM |
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I disagree with your exception. I don't want my child around any cops either. -nt- |
ContinentalOp |
Aug-11-09 06:56 PM |
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I carry a gun every place I go |
michreject |
Aug-11-09 07:06 PM |
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so do I. I don't want my kids round guns either and that's what gun safes are for..... |
nonsequitur |
Aug-11-09 11:46 PM |
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Missed Hardball tonight, but I completely agree |
JerseygirlCT |
Aug-11-09 07:09 PM |
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I guess your children will never go hunting with their pa. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-11-09 07:10 PM |
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Nope. More like HELL NO. |
krabigirl |
Aug-12-09 02:53 PM |
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Best move to Wisconson or IL. The other 48 state all allowed for some form of concealed carry |
davepc |
Aug-11-09 07:11 PM |
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The only problem with your plan is |
Retired AF Dem |
Aug-11-09 07:28 PM |
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I feel the same way I do not want my child to be near anyone with a gun |
Geek_Girl |
Aug-11-09 07:34 PM |
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Those places are legal in the North as well |
michreject |
Aug-12-09 05:53 AM |
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So what...your irrational fears should not have any impact on others |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-11-09 08:38 PM |
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Maybe I don't wanty YOUR child around MY guns. n/t |
guardian |
Aug-11-09 09:36 PM |
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Carry around kids |
kimjamey69 |
Aug-11-09 10:14 PM |
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Too bad |
donheld |
Aug-11-09 10:57 PM |
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I choose to carry concealed |
Budgies Revenge |
Aug-11-09 11:41 PM |
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Yeah, I'm a CCW holder and I'm dangerous and a threat to your children. |
proteus_lives |
Aug-12-09 12:10 AM |
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What is it you fear is going to happen to your son? |
jmg257 |
Aug-12-09 07:48 AM |
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You trust the po-po more than your neighbors? |
Recursion |
Aug-12-09 09:30 AM |
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I bet you are from Portland, Or |
Ferret Mike |
Aug-12-09 09:41 AM |
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It's a pretty widely-used term |
Recursion |
Aug-12-09 09:42 AM |
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Interesting, As the folks in PDX (Portland, OR) often feel the term is property of 'Little Beirut.' |
Ferret Mike |
Aug-12-09 09:55 AM |
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I'm sorry you feel that way |
slackmaster |
Aug-12-09 09:30 AM |
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Violating the second amendment is no better when done "for the children." |
Lance_Boyle |
Aug-12-09 09:35 AM |
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There is.. the lovejoy.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-12-09 09:53 AM |
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that depends on how you choose to interpret the Second Amendment |
fascisthunter |
Aug-12-09 06:07 PM |
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Minority? |
X_Digger |
Aug-12-09 06:12 PM |
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Agree we 84+ million gun-owners are a minority among the 225+ million electorate but even smaller |
jody |
Aug-12-09 06:45 PM |
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That's your right as a parent. |
Dappleganger |
Aug-12-09 09:46 AM |
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Disassociate with gun owners and Pols who are Pro-Gun. |
Union Yes |
Aug-12-09 09:55 AM |
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I have a CCW, I do carry, everyday...I intend to go to a town hall... |
virginia mountainman |
Aug-12-09 09:59 AM |
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I don't want my kid in a house where there are guns, period. |
krabigirl |
Aug-12-09 02:51 PM |
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Do your neighbors a favor and place a sign that yours is a no firearms household |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-12-09 09:34 PM |
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anyone carrying out in the open is a bit whacked |
fascisthunter |
Aug-12-09 06:01 PM |
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(shrug) It's hard to get accidentally shot if there aren't any guns around. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-12-09 09:34 PM |
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Had I a child, I'd not want him/her around anyone that hunted. |
flvegan |
Aug-12-09 09:38 PM |
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The first question I asked |
Wendio |
Aug-12-09 09:56 PM |
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Define "kind" |
Pavulon |
Aug-12-09 10:03 PM |
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Twitchy people |
Wendio |
Aug-13-09 10:50 AM |
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I have very young children and do not want my kids around irresponsible people |
Jennicut |
Aug-13-09 10:59 AM |
#156 |