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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 03:23 PM
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26. It's not the providers that I have issues with.
The insurance companies are sleaze that have been spending billions of dollars to block reform.
They not only don't deserve this, the additional profits they would obviously take in would go towards future campaigns to block reform.
And these are private companies afterall. They will find loopholes in the laws to drop people. I still don't trust them.

A mandate doesn't do anything to punish these corporations for lying to, stealing from and killing thousands of people each year. It rewards them and I'll have no part of that.
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  -If there is a mandate to buy private health ins and no public gov't administered plan, will you.... Shagbark Hickory  Aug-10-09 02:53 PM   #0 
  - I like having health insurance and my employer pays for most of it  stray cat   Aug-10-09 02:54 PM   #1 
  - Buy it with what money?  hobbit709   Aug-10-09 02:54 PM   #2 
  - No exclusions for preconditions and no gouging either  endarkenment   Aug-10-09 03:00 PM   #8 
     - Don't hold your breath for that one.  hobbit709   Aug-10-09 03:01 PM   #10 
     - Really? Define "so you can afford it".  Hello_Kitty   Aug-10-09 03:08 PM   #21 
        - I guess we will find out what the details are if and when a bill passes.  endarkenment   Aug-10-09 03:56 PM   #32 
           - A single payer tax would be progressive.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-10-09 03:59 PM   #33 
              - I don't disagree with you.  endarkenment   Aug-10-09 04:05 PM   #35 
                 - And I refuse to support them based on wishful thinking  Hello_Kitty   Aug-10-09 04:19 PM   #39 
  - You do realize you'll have to pay something for a public option if there's one, don't you?  sinkingfeeling   Aug-10-09 02:55 PM   #3 
  - Yes. But I don't view the government as the enemy. The ins companies could care less if we liveOrDie  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 02:57 PM   #5 
  - Yes just like we're paying for private policies now.  Wapsie B   Aug-10-09 03:00 PM   #9 
  - WTF? Prison?  DevonRex   Aug-10-09 02:55 PM   #4 
  - Really because that's what they do when they catch you driving without insurance.  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 02:58 PM   #6 
  - I tried to make this point last week. Obama will NOT say he endorses garnishing wages, because  closeupready   Aug-10-09 03:02 PM   #13 
  - No one is thrown in jail for driving without insurance  SoCalNative   Aug-10-09 03:17 PM   #25 
     - In Georgia, in addition to your car being impounded,  aaronbav   Aug-10-09 04:14 PM   #37 
     - Yes and the fine is a stiff one. Something on the order of $ 1,200  truedelphi   Aug-10-09 04:23 PM   #40 
     - What happens when you don't pay the fine?  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 04:25 PM   #41 
        - JAIL - also as soon as the insurance company notifies  aaronbav   Aug-10-09 07:10 PM   #44 
  - Maybe not  Old Codger   Aug-10-09 03:01 PM   #11 
     - I'm all for a mandate, just don't mandate me to pay a private company and make some CEO pig richer  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 03:03 PM   #14 
     - Ok, but private companies will be providing the actual care. So it doesn't matter if your premium  sinkingfeeling   Aug-10-09 03:05 PM   #18 
        - It's not the providers that I have issues with.  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 03:23 PM   #26 
        - Yeah, so? Roads and schools are built by private companies too.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-10-09 03:25 PM   #28 
     - Obama is flip-flopping on health care.  closeupready   Aug-10-09 03:05 PM   #17 
        - By "healthcare" you must mean "health insurance" reform Classic example n/t  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 03:25 PM   #27 
           - Yes, sorry. That's what I meant.  closeupready   Aug-10-09 03:29 PM   #29 
  - This is not my favorite program implementation but Romneycare  endarkenment   Aug-10-09 02:59 PM   #7 
  - Then call it a tax. Don't require a wealthy person to have to deal with and make pmts to a private  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 03:01 PM   #12 
  - Romney care is turning out to be horribly expensive for the state  Hello_Kitty   Aug-10-09 03:14 PM   #24 
     - everyone in is essential to any reform  endarkenment   Aug-10-09 04:03 PM   #34 
  - Buying a private plan doesn't  Texasgal   Aug-10-09 03:03 PM   #15 
  - That too! Of course there is talk of forcing privates to accept people regardless of pre-x cond. nt  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 03:05 PM   #16 
  - But will those with pre-x cond. pay higher premiums?  closeupready   Aug-10-09 03:08 PM   #20 
     - The public option in HR 3200 also has variable rates.  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 06:09 PM   #43 
  - Health insurance will be highly regulated.  Scarsdale Vibe   Aug-10-09 04:13 PM   #36 
     - what's ridiculous is that  Texasgal   Aug-10-09 04:18 PM   #38 
     - Is anything highly regulated in this country?  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-10-09 04:27 PM   #42 
  - Yes. I won't like it but I will do it.  Jeep789   Aug-10-09 03:06 PM   #19 
  - Nope. I can barely afford auto insurance.  Mojambo   Aug-10-09 03:12 PM   #22 
  - I'm insured, but most I know are not.  Bluenorthwest   Aug-10-09 03:14 PM   #23 
  - If I have to,  ayeshahaqqiqa   Aug-10-09 03:43 PM   #30 
  - depends on what it costs  guitar man   Aug-10-09 03:48 PM   #31 

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